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Businesses exist to make money. If they could replace you with a cheaper robot they would, no hesitation.

Thank god the government stepped in because they would find poor saps and pay lowest possible wages while working fools to death.

Literally, they made children 12 and under work for dirt.
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In Nazi Germany if any company was found guilty of disrespecting or mistreating its employees the owners would simply be removed from their positions and their business given to someone else.

It was against the law for an employer to treat workers like **** just because he owned the business.
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Originally Posted By TimeTravelerBro
Businesses exist to make money. If they could replace you with a cheaper robot they would, no hesitation.

Thank god the government stepped in because they would find poor saps and pay lowest possible wages while working fools to death.

Literally, they made children 12 and under work for dirt.
Infantile comment. Do you think it is better for a business to treat their employees well, so they are happy and stay, or to treat them like dirt for nothing? Government does nothing except waste things.
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On the other side of the argument most people I've worked with and for were massive idiots that didn't belong there in the first place.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

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Wasn't actually the government that protected those rights or got them for you, it was the unions dude. People went on strike.

Srsly the corporations OWN the government.
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The same reason employees dont care about the company they work for
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
I may be wrong, but it seems that way. I understand business is about making profits, but at the expense of treating your employees wrong? EA, Walmart, Apple, Uber, etc. etc.

If it wasn't for government, I feel liked we'd still be working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. The fact that government had to intervene shows you how bad they are. And there shouldn't be a discussion for Universal Basic Income if these employers really cared about people.
Because caring about employees would lead to address the whole pay stagnation issue with means = less profit.

We gotta get 1 trillion market cap buddy, and we ain't doing that unless we got warehouses all over the world with slave labor running it.

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Its hard to care about self entitled wage slaves who expect holiday/sick pay and put in minimum work effort
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In white collar jobs at least, my biggest gripe is fking facetime.

My team could legit take a 2 hour lunch, but still be finished working by 3. Good thing is, my manager is more lenient this time.

Hazing culture in some companies need to stop.

in my old job:

-brb boss says "hey please update these marketing materials and excel models for the very important pitch, need done and sent by morning, don't spend all night tho tnx"
-brb work takes all night
-brb talk to my senior coworker about how this pitch must be so important
-brb send this 60+ powerpoint to boss in the morning, he replies "looks good" 5 minutes later LOL
-senior says "no, he's taking a vacation today, he does this sometimes"
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Corporations main objetive > make money
Workers = lost of money

Umbrella Corporation > zombie virus > apocalypse > zombie workers dont need money
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Originally Posted By Coldsloth
I work for a big Corp and could care less if they care about me personally. Itโ€™s not like I give AF about them. Itโ€™s nothing personal. Simply business.
This, things look like they might be coming to an end for our branch within the next year. I have about 1/100th of the work I typically do. As long as pay-checks keep getting signed i'll sit in the office miscing.
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lot of people who got laid off at my company recently, some who had been with the company for 15 - 20 years, got good retirement packages. I guess it depends on where you work / the industry you work in. oil and gas usually gives good packages and early retirement
You guys, I'm seriously
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
On the other side of the argument most people I've worked with and for were massive idiots that didn't belong there in the first place.
That is the peter principle. People will always rise to a point that they become incompetent.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
Corporations don't have feelings. They have shareholders who demand maximum profit. Employees are a resource in which the goal is to extract the most output for the least amount of money. That's capitalism, boyo.

There are a few professions which are in such high demand (mostly stem) where it makes economic sense to treat employees well, but the rest of us are just wage slaves. Even at amazon, they fully admit it's cheaper to hire young people, burn the chit out of them, and then hire another round of young people every 4-6 years. They have no interest in long term development and retention because it costs more.
This guy nailed it IMO.

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Originally Posted By Soonerjohn
That is the peter principle. People will always rise to a point that they become incompetent.
that's the problem with unions and other bull****. doesn't ****ing work. at the places where i was management and could fire whoever and how many i wanted on the spot, we used temp workers, didn't like one, could get another the next day. and it works so much better than normal employees or union bull****. but given the right supervisor, i was the supervisor and good at my job so... lol. and once the temp employee proved him, i can tell right away because i've worked with over 200 temps, he gets hired.
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Originally Posted By billyjeanking1
Infantile comment. Do you think it is better for a business to treat their employees well, so they are happy and stay, or to treat them like dirt for nothing? Government does nothing except waste things.
Rather than a theoretical question, we can actually look at corporate practices past and present.

Sweatshops exists.

Corporations since the beginning of the industrial revolution, have no problem with child labour.. Rather than pay the adults enough to take care of a family, they want to employee children...

https://www.ethicaltrade.org/issues/child-labour

Buildings that collapse - making products for corporations - in developing countries that kill people, because the corporations didn't care about regularly inspecting buildings and keeping them up to code.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...arment-factory

Corporations working their employees literally to the point of a mental breakdown and suicide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides

Without regulation corporations historically have been fine with not providing employees with; low pay, regular breaks, long hours, bitter job references - effectively blacklisting an employee - unsafe working conditions, etc.

The Libertarian theory is that corporations given free reign will treat their employees well because it's in their economic interest, however reality - as we can see in various sweatshops around the world, where the state doesn't regulate employee conditions - shows that corporations will treat their employees as bad as they can get away with.

I have no idea why anti-regulation people ignore the decades upon decades of historical evidence, showing that corporations will treat employees like crap if they can get away with it.





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3rd world sweat shops and business in the western world are not the same at all.
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Originally Posted By TimeTravelerBro
Businesses exist to make money. If they could replace you with a cheaper robot they would, no hesitation.

Thank god the government stepped in because they would find poor saps and pay lowest possible wages while working fools to death.

Literally, they made children 12 and under work for dirt.
They didn't "make" these children do anything.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
On the other side of the argument most people I've worked with and for were massive idiots that didn't belong there in the first place.
Yeah, miscers have this idea in their head that they're special, and deserve to be wealthy.

Then they go on rants about corporations....
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1
Because customers don't care, they shop based on price. Open a store, pay your employees $20/hour with full benefits to run cash registers, price your things accordingly and you'll go out of business, because at the end of the day 99% of people don't really care about anyone else when it costs them a single cent.
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OP and others rant about corporations, and are surrounded, and shop at places that are corporate owned....
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
You're wrong on so many levels. People want routine stability. They just want to work and go home and have their weekends to themselves.
Then get a job that allows that....
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If I run a corporation I wouldn't give a **** about employers to srs. My goal is to make as much money as possible for me and the shareholders, so I would squeeze every little work out of you for as little as possible. Especially if you are easily replaceable srs. Wallmart and Mcdonalds CEO are goals.
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Originally Posted By Mumra
3rd world sweat shops and business in the western world are not the same at all.
Never said they were, and I have no idea why you made that point because (as you know) corporations are not restricted to the western world.

However, the reason is because of regulation, they aren't treating employees well out off their own backs.

There is a lot of regulation regarding employee rights, building codes, workplaces safety, etc, that is enforced in the west.

Regulation makes corporations treat people better in western countries.

In the 2nd largest economy in the world, people are routinely treated like crap in Chinese corporate sweatshops.

We have decade after decade of experience, since the beginning of the industrial revolution, that corporations will treat employees as bad as they can get away with him.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
OP and others rant about corporations, and are surrounded, and shop at places that are corporate owned....
This cartoon applies to you...

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
This cartoon applies to you...

So edgy, keep ranting about those evil corporations, see where it gets you.

Face it, if you're on the bottom of the pyramid at work, you're simply expendable, so why should you be treated well? Maybe people should stop bitching, and climb the ladder....or start their own business where they can treat their employees "well."
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
So edgy, keep ranting about those evil corporations, see where it gets you.
Nothing edgy about it, that's literally your argument.
Face it, if you're on the bottom of the pyramid at work, you're simply expendable, so why should you be treated well? Maybe people should stop bitching, and climb the ladder....or start their own business where they can treat their employees "well."
You honestly think that's practical advice for people in developing countries?










Do you disagree with regulation regarding employee treatment, child labour laws, building codes, workplace safety?
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Never said they were, and I have no idea why you made that point because (as you know) corporations are not restricted to the western world.

However, the reason is because of regulation, they aren't treating employees well out off their own backs.

There is a lot of regulation regarding employee rights, building codes, workplaces safety, etc, that is enforced in the west.

Regulation makes corporations treat people better in western countries.

In the 2nd largest economy in the world, people are routinely treated like crap in Chinese corporate sweatshops.

We have decade after decade of experience, since the beginning of the industrial revolution, that corporations will treat employees as bad as they can get away with him.
you are not paying attention.

and you're still making the comparison.
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