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Originally Posted By tunafish01
Sure, idgaf what they protest, just be consistent and protest any other violent black killing.
they arent protesting death, they are protesting systemic racism and generally being over-policed

but also it seems like you are telling people to protest according to your narrow beliefs, which is un-american
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
they arent protesting death, they are protesting systemic racism and generally being over-policed

but also it seems like you are telling people to protest according to your narrow beliefs, which is un-american
I am going to start a protest about them protesting
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
I am going to start a protest about them protesting
go for it, theres dipshiits protesting against vaccinations and teaching kids the world is older than 5,000 years old.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
they arent protesting death, they are protesting systemic racism and generally being over-policed

but also it seems like you are telling people to protest according to your narrow beliefs, which is un-american
are they being over policed when 12% of the population is black but black people commit 40% of violent crimes? As opposed to white people making up 60% of the population(5x as many) and only committing 10% more violent crimes? if crime by race was relative then it would be 15% blacks committing violent crimes and 70% whites committing violent crimes.

This "overpolicing" is in response to crime. I am not saying a police officer should suspect a black person of being a criminal because they are black, but when you look at statistics and case by case scenarios, and media coverage, it will appear a lot of police are interacting with black people, but thats because black people are committing a disproportionate amount of violent crimes.

This is due to many facets of society and NOT just because putting on a badge makes you racist or prejudice.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
are they being over policed when 12% of the population is black but black people commit 40% of violent crimes? As opposed to white people making up 60% of the population(5x as many) and only committing 10% more violent crimes? if crime by race was relative then it would be 15% blacks committing violent crimes and 70% whites committing violent crimes.
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You wouldn't be subjected to police brutality if you weren't committing crimes
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
are they being over policed when 12% of the population is black but black people commit 40% of violent crimes? As opposed to white people making up 60% of the population(5x as many) and only committing 10% more violent crimes? if crime by race was relative then it would be 15% blacks committing violent crimes and 70% whites committing violent crimes.
first point: being over policed has nothing to do with crime statistics directly. being over policed is getting tickets for jaywalkin or getting a speeding ticket for goin one over or having a cop stop you whilst your walking and question you without any cause. it's a facet of criminology, its not some empirical bias. it just means: cops doin too much.

second: generally movements for racial equality dont doubt the statistics themselves, they question why those are the statistics, which is can be extremely complex:

if the cops police black neighborhoods more than white neighborhoods, they are bound to find more crime
is the corroallary simple inner city poverty and crime, moreso than race
what tangential societal tendencies create this structural imbalance (ex, todd is 50% more likely to get the job than jamal, actual study that was done on fake identical resumes)
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Damn you guys need to stop arguing over the little crap - internet style.


Understand this: We've been infiltrated by Communists and Social Marxists for 20-30 years. Destroying culture, destroying our institutions, softening us up....taking over education, opening the border and flooding us with the 3rd world.

This is no joke.

Why aren't there any right wing militias showing up to restore law & order? Because the FEDERAL government has systematically destroyed them all, labeled them hate groups, labeled them racist, used RICO laws against them. Why? To WEAKEN US and so the GOVERNMENT gets more power, so you must rely on government force.

You all better smarten up to the playbook be used against you right now.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
first point: being over policed has nothing to do with crime statistics directly. being over policed is getting tickets for jaywalkin or getting a speeding ticket for goin one over or having a cop stop you whilst your walking and question you without any cause. it's a facet of criminology, its not some empirical bias. it just means: cops doin too much.

second: generally movements for racial equality dont doubt the statistics themselves, they question why those are the statistics, which is can be extremely complex:

if the cops police black neighborhoods more than white neighborhoods, they are bound to find more crime
is the corroallary simple inner city poverty and crime, moreso than race
what tangential societal tendencies create this structural imbalance (ex, todd is 50% more likely to get the job than jamal, actual study that was done on fake identical resumes)
i would be more inclined to agree if they were closer to equal, but they arent even close, there is an overwhelming amount more VIOLENT crimes(not jay walking, speeding, public intox, etc)

There are also many more NON police Black on white crimes, black on hispanic crimes, and black on black crimes.

THOSE problems need to be sorted out as well as police wrongfully arresting, assaulting, and 3/36,000,000 times a year killing a black person, because those black on everyone else violent crimes are hurting the black community more than any amount of police injustice.

And this #blacklivesmatter movement is rooted in black people are treated unfairly, and I am YET to see any hard objective proof black people are treated any more unfairly than white people, hispanics, asians, or indians, because there are just as many instances of police and other people treating them all unfairly.


Have you ever seen what its like for a white person in a predominantly black neighborhood? The racism is ASTOUNDING, but in this country, black people are always the victims, and its unfathomable that there could be MORE racist treatment from black people to everyone else, than everyone else towards black people.
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Originally Posted By CulturalDecay
Damn you guys need to stop arguing over the little crap - internet style.


Understand this: We've been infiltrated by Communists and Social Marxists for 20-30 years. Destroying culture, destroying our institutions, softening us up....taking over education, opening the border and flooding us with the 3rd world.

This is no joke.

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You all better smarten up to the playbook be used against you right now.
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Originally Posted By Gringo12
You wouldn't be subjected to police brutality if you weren't committing crimes
Innocent people have never been beaten by the police now?
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Their needs to be protest for black on white crime. Black on black crime tahts their business let them handle that
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
Why are there no protests for Black on White crime?

Why is 12 % of the population committing 7 times as many cross race violent crimes as white people who make up 60% of the US population?

Why are white people being crucified as racists when black people are statistically far more violent and racist and committing disproportionately more crime?


Because a few bad scenarios plastered on the media? That makes up for all statistics and stories not seen on the media in the country of white people also being killed and arrested unjustifiably by police?
Exactly this. White people are the ones being hunted. Thats why its hard for me to have any sympathy for these black people who play victim.
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl
Their needs to be protest for black on white crime. Black on black crime tahts their business let them handle that
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I dont think white people should worry about black on black crine either. Thats their problem. Focus on black on white crime
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
And this #blacklivesmatter movement is rooted in black people are treated unfairly, and I am YET to see any hard objective proof black people are treated any more unfairly than white people, hispanics, asians, or indians, because there are just as many instances of police and other people treating them all unfairly.
there's a lot of scientific, objective proof. you should google more and do research on this matter. i dont got time to sit here and teach you how to do research.


https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/...urnal_articles


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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl
I dont think white people should worry about black on black crine either. Thats their problem. Focus on black on white crime
It stems out from there though. If youre gonna kill your own race, you wont hesitate to kill others. So where is the outrage??
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Black brah here...

There are black people who have brought that up. Lenon Honor on youtube has spoken about it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jAhBbnAUY

Basically my view....

Black men killing black men is considered normal. A white person killing a black person is considered abnormal. (Lenon Honor has said that in the past too.)

Listen to rap music. Literally daily there are songs where black men talk about specifically killing other black men, and people of all races love to listen to it and dance to it. Noone bats an eyelid. C Dolores Tucker and others in the early 90s were black people who were publicly protesting against gangster rap, and it's use of violent lyrics and degradation of women... Now very few are willing to stand up in the mainstream against it...

Rick Ross made 2 sentences about raping a woman, and there were protests outside Reebok who were sponsoring him at the time. He lost his sponsorship. Rick Ross made routine songs about killing black men, and dealing drugs... Noone cared... He said 2 lines about rape, and people flipped their chit.

There is a very good documentary on the subject, made by a black brah, that I can't post here because it might get me banned. Even though, all it says is that the executives behind rap music are Jewish.

There is another documentary that I can post, which talks about NWA and how they changed the face of rap music...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyPhYo-DuNY

In a nutshell, there were 'gangster rappers' before NWA, but NWA made gangster rap the dominate form of rap music. They used to get booed off the stage by black crowds, until they received a letter from the FBI about their song 'phuck the police'. Then the record label launched a marketing campaign where they said "They are trying to silence black men from expressing themselves', and then NWA came out with the song 'express yourself'... And black crowds began backing them, because they fell for the marketing campaign.

TLDR: It's consider normal for black men to kill black men. It's so common that people of all races dance along to black men boasting about their willingness to kill other black men in songs. Very few people would dance along to a song where the entire song was about raping a woman, but a black man talking about killing a black man is OK.

Honestly, I think that if I played NBAyoungboy to most white guys they wouldn't bat an eyelid (typical murder talk, but if I played them Poverty Of Philosophy By Immortal Technique they would likely get pissed off, because it's 'off script'...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Vl0peys90

(Note: I am not endorsing everything he says in the Poverty Of Philosophy, nor do I like the aggression. However, the song is about Black and Latino people rising up violently against oppressors... Which would likely make a lot of people way more uncomfortable than if he was talking about killing black dudes.)
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
It stems out from there though. If youre gonna kill your own race, you wont hesitate to kill others. So where is the outrage??
most people are outraged at violent crime, but its not something you protest because the criminals dont give a chit.

how would that even work? what would they specifically be protesting?
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
most people are outraged at violent crime, but its not something you protest because the criminals dont give a chit.

how would that even work? what would they specifically be protesting?
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
most people are outraged at violent crime, but its not something you protest because the criminals dont give a chit.

how would that even work? what would they specifically be protesting?
Yeah, the only insitutions we could protest would be record companies.

That's why I focused on the rap industry in my previous post.

Protests are typically carried out against institutions, I don't think OP understands that.
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whites are just as likely to be killed by cops. theres no riots over it because the media only cares for instances when blacks are the victims. do this for a while and you sew a THICK seed of a false perception.

i almost dont blame people for this because have been brainwashed their entire life to belief theres a massive white racist problem in america and that evil whites are out to get blacks. its simply false
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It’s almost as if the police are held to a higher standard than gang members
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
most people are outraged at violent crime, but its not something you protest because the criminals dont give a chit.

how would that even work? what would they specifically be protesting?
The point being racism is not the massive issue everyone is making it out to be, if we really want to evaluate racism objectively, black people are the most racist of all but also the ones trying to point the finger at everyone else.

Its hypocrisy on an insane level.

We are being taken on a ride that is destroying the country and we are being asked to present solutions to a problem that can not be solved to make black people happier because THEY are the ones perpetuating racism more than anyone else.


We are literally sitting in a circle with everyone pointing fingers, most being pointed at white people, none being pointed at black people, but everyones wrong, and everyones being racist to some degree, but one group is being blamed more than any other and the one doing the most wrong is not being blamed for anything at all.
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What I don't get is when a white person kills a black person everybody automatically links it to racism. Now I'm not a black person and I don't live in America so I have no idea about how you guys get treated. But statistics suggests that black people aren't getting murdered and killed any more than white people when you adjust for crime rates? I get protesting police brutality but somehow along the way people threw in that it was a race issue and the guy got murdered because he was black.

I mean can we conclusively say this is the case and does the officer have any history of being racist? It seems like digging up his past history that the two guys worked as bouncers and the white dude is just a hot head.

But seriously tho I'm hearing a lot of anti-white sentiment from black people that I'd probably considere racist. I'm not sure how prevalent it is in the black community but I would say a sizeable portion of them think that white people can't be racist and to me that's a problem. It's basically absolving personal responsibility and excusing poor ethical behaviour. And that they are blaming white people for their problems. I'm not even saying this is how the majority of black people think but IMO it's a significant enough portion. They want equality and racism to end but when you project that same energy to an entire demographic because of the actions of a few, it makes people less sympathetic to the message not to mention just pure hypocrisy.

I think we all understand though it isn't just black people looting but a lot of white antifa phuktards, and other races just stirring chit up, etc.

People are angry and I get it, but why aren't people destroying cities over the gang violence that involves a black person every weekend in Chicago? Yes both are clearly important issues but we have two very different reactions and attitudes to what is ultimately the same result. A black person dead. If media didn't actively try to pit races and people against each other, or actively cover this story would there actually be riots? What if instead media would plaster all over the news the number of shootings and deaths of black people that occur in Chicago every weekend? Would people get upset, protest more and riot? I feel like at this point the media controls a lot of peoples actions and reactions to certain events and basically tell people what they should be angry about, to be afraid of, etc. They are mind-controlling us to view the world from a certain lens and people aren't even aware of this. It's actually kinda scary that the media can literally push any narrative it wants and people would believe it. You can probably dig up so many stories that would get people to take up arms but the majority of it gets buried by the media.
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
Stop gang violence? Come together?
The fact that you think protests against gang violence do not exist, shows how little YOU actually care about the issue, and in fact were simply trying to discredit the current protests.
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Why doesn't the US government wage war on the USA for killing more Americans than Middle East, Cuba, Russia, China, Iran and North Korea combined?
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The main thing that really annoys me about the anti-cop rallies and people wanting police to take a soft approach to policing is. They have no idea how it affects the violent crime rates.

Here is the cycle:
-Lots of violent crime. People demand police to crack down in high crime areas. Their community is ravaged by crime. (Primary black neighborhoods)
-Police start cracking down. Inevitably you have to get your hands dirty. I'm sorry but you can't take down armed/violent people without using force all the time. Some of them are going to fight/shoot.
-Eventually crime starts plummeting in those areas. Police end up having to take a life because sooner are later, your going to deal with someone that's armed and on drugs/not thinking clearly and you'll have to shoot it out.
-Community starts questioning why police are so hard on the young black males in their community. Even though its a 'justified shooting.' More peace walks/protests to stop violence, etc.
-Politicians/brass make decision to scale back proactive policing in minority neighborhoods to relieve tension. 6-2 months later, go back to the top of this list.


If you're a white police officer working in a 'minority' area you'll most likely be accused/regarded as a racist at some point. Looked at with mistrust and suspicion by a good portion of the community. One grey area incident or even a justified use of force that people just don't like and your completely fukked. Your reputation. Your finances. And maybe even your career.


When I was younger I thought higher risk work in higher crime areas was rewarding. But now that I'm older, no thnx Jeffry. It doesn't matter how many rapes/murders/burglaries/robberies/carjackings, etc. occur in a minority community. Doesn't affect me or my family. So why should I put everything on the line (including my life) to stop those things from happening there or attempt to hold those that commit those crimes there accountable? It just doesn't make sense.
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Originally Posted By sooby
What I don't get is when a white person kills a black person everybody automatically links it to racism. Now I'm not a black person and I don't live in America so I have no idea about how you guys get treated. But statistics suggests that black people aren't getting murdered and killed any more than white people when you adjust for crime rates? I get protesting police brutality but somehow along the way people threw in that it was a race issue and the guy got murdered because he was black.

I mean can we conclusively say this is the case and does the officer have any history of being racist? It seems like digging up his past history that the two guys worked as bouncers and the white dude is just a hot head.

But seriously tho I'm hearing a lot of anti-white sentiment from black people that I'd probably considere racist. I'm not sure how prevalent it is in the black community but I would say a sizeable portion of them think that white people can't be racist and to me that's a problem. It's basically absolving personal responsibility and excusing poor ethical behaviour. And that they are blaming white people for their problems. I'm not even saying this is how the majority of black people think but IMO it's a significant enough portion. They want equality and racism to end but when you project that same energy to an entire demographic because of the actions of a few, it makes people less sympathetic to the message not to mention just pure hypocrisy.

I think we all understand though it isn't just black people looting but a lot of white antifa phuktards, and other races just stirring chit up, etc.

People are angry and I get it, but why aren't people destroying cities over the gang violence that involves a black person every weekend in Chicago? Yes both are clearly important issues but we have two very different reactions and attitudes to what is ultimately the same result. A black person dead. If media didn't actively try to pit races and people against each other, or actively cover this story would there actually be riots? What if instead media would plaster all over the news the number of shootings and deaths of black people that occur in Chicago every weekend? Would people get upset, protest more and riot? I feel like at this point the media controls a lot of peoples actions and reactions to certain events and basically tell people what they should be angry about, to be afraid of, etc. They are mind-controlling us to view the world from a certain lens and people aren't even aware of this. It's actually kinda scary that the media can literally push any narrative it wants and people would believe it. You can probably dig up so many stories that would get people to take up arms but the majority of it gets buried by the media.
This is one of my biggest fears.

We are submitting to a greater and MUCH more harsh version of racism and literally accepting it as okay behavior because emotions and SJW.

No, I am not saying all black people are being racist towards white people.

But I am seeing WAAAAAAYYYYYY more openly racism towards white people than I have ever seen towards ANY groups post 1960s. Open threats to kill white people and police in the thousands, yes thousands.

And this is ALLLLL okay because people are "hurt" and "injustice" and emotions just left and right.

But then we look at cold hard facts and things dont add up.

And here we are just submitting to a large scale hate campaign and fist bumping those doing it.

I mean if you are claiming a fight for injustice, but there is no racial injustice(it is just an opinion no statistic support this as factual) then what is being fought for? What is the victory?
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
This is one of my biggest fears.

We are submitting to a greater and MUCH more harsh version of racism and literally accepting it as okay behavior because emotions and SJW.

No, I am not saying all black people are being racist towards white people.

But I am seeing WAAAAAAYYYYYY more openly racism towards white people than I have ever seen towards ANY groups post 1960s. Open threats to kill white people and police in the thousands, yes thousands.

And this is ALLLLL okay because people are "hurt" and "injustice" and emotions just left and right.

But then we look at cold hard facts and things dont add up.

And here we are just submitting to a large scale hate campaign and fist bumping those doing it.

I mean if you are claiming a fight for injustice, but there is no racial injustice(it is just an opinion no statistic support this as factual) then what is being fought for? What is the victory?
I don't know when it became normalized but some people seem to think it's okay to be racist against white people/single them out (the vast majority who had nothing to do with slavery/civil rights or are even racist themselves) because of what happened 70-300 years ago. The way it is so out in the open and nobody even tries to hide this anymore is hilarious (yet sad to me). Some of it may not be outright racist but sure as hell say the same chit except replace white with another race or group that is persecuted in the eyes of the media it will be considered racist and any honest conversation about it will immediately get shut down. Some people are fed up with this and will want to push back against it but will be labelled racist and white supremacists for thinking differently and not submitting to the notion that white people should feel guilty. This is why any conversation about race never gets anywhere.

There are extremes that won't acknowledge racism but at the same time the other extreme where people pretend there is a lynch mob out to get them every time they step foot out of their house.

People demand for the world to change when they themselves refuse to change and acknowledge any racist, bigoted or hatefulness within themselves I think is what I have the biggest beef with. How the fuk are you going to demand responsibility from the government, the cops, etc when you can't even take responsibility for yourself and your own actions?

I've walked through downtown Toronto (SJW central) and had somebody straight up tell me that black people can't be racist and that white people are not your friends. Granted he was a part of the Nation of Islam but still fkn lol. Not sure how people can believe and say that chit with a straight face lol and claim that they are all for peace and equality. I'm a minority brah and I can say from my own experience I've seen and experienced more racism from other minorities than white people. Obv other experiences may vary depending on location but the point is anybody can be racist and I think it's more of an overall problem. I don't think you can just address racism towards a certain group without addressing the concept in its entirety.
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