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post 1625338633 12-12-2020, 04:56 PM
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I saw this story on my phone and thought it was interesting but was caught up in other things.

As usual, the story glossed of the most interesting part which is----how the hell they did it.

Also, what did the messages say?

I did not see that in my article.

I saw some stuff about him thinking he was going to heaven and what he was doing didn't matter but I wasn't sure if that was translated code or a general statement from him.

He was a bastard and I don't really care what he thinks, but the code part is admirable.
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post 1625338813 12-12-2020, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By scudda⏩
These killers are cowards hiding in the shadows picking on innocent victims or people weaker than them. There is nothing fascinating about stabbing or strangling someone from behind and then running away
That's correct.

An inmate in prison pointed that out to me.

He said, "You never see any serial killers going after giant football dudes, they're all just cowards" and that summed it up perfectly.
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post 1625528603 12-14-2020, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
That's correct.

An inmate in prison pointed that out to me.

He said, "You never see any serial killers going after giant football dudes, they're all just cowards" and that summed it up perfectly.
They’re presumably not trying to rape big football dudes, idiot
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post 1625529013 12-14-2020, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
They’re presumably not trying to rape big football dudes, idiot
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Just lol if you don't accept it was Arthur Leigh Allen. Almost ever law enforcement professional knows it was him based on the totality of evidence and circumstances. There just wasnt the evidence to convict him in court and the FBI doesnt make movies unless they have enough evidence for a 98% chance conviction. Thats one reason theres so many serial killers still on the loose. The hard part isnt figuring out who they are, the hard part is finding enough substantiated evidence to use against them in court to put them away.
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post 1625529303 12-14-2020, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Just lol if you don't accept it was Arthur Leigh Allen. Almost ever law enforcement professional knows it was him based on the totality of evidence and circumstances. There just wasnt the evidence to convict him in court and the FBI doesnt make movies unless they have enough evidence for a 98% chance conviction. Thats one reason theres so many serial killers still on the loose. The hard part isnt figuring out who they are, the hard part is finding enough substantiated evidence to use against them in court to put them away.
Er..no

You’re implying there are serial killers walking around that we have identified but just can convict through lack of evidence lol..

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post 1625529683 12-14-2020, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Er..no

You’re implying there are serial killers walking around that we have identified but just can convict through lack of evidence lol..

Total bobbins
no im not implying that, I have been to classes held by FBI SAC who have openly said they have cases like this. There is implied evidence and substantiated evidence. Implied evidence means jack **** in federal court without enough substantiated evidence.

Zodiac killer was doing this in the 1960s and 70s, they had interviewed him multiple times, followed him, etc... you dont think 50 years later serial killers have learned and evolved and benefit from new technology as well to eliminate evidence?

People get off in court off of emotional murders where they left chit behind, i know its crazy to imagine criminal geniuses who dont ever want to get caught can get away with murder.

the reason people like Ted Bundy and Ted Kacynski got caught is because of other people coming forward and giving information about where evidence was i.e. Bundys ex gf/wife and Kacynski's brother with the cabin.
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post 1625531193 12-14-2020, 03:41 PM
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I think a lot of people didn't put much time into the code because for most it was believed to be just basically chatter designed to waste people's time. Turns out it was a real code. The guy probably worked in for the CIA or something like that, knew a lot about how the FBI and detectives operate and used their own system against them.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
That's correct.

An inmate in prison pointed that out to me.

He said, "You never see any serial killers going after giant football dudes, they're all just cowards" and that summed it up perfectly.
That's not true at all. Jeffrey Dahmer's victims were almost all exclusively very fit black men for example. The Golden State Killer would rape women with her boyfriend/husband there all the time.

Most men are cowards.
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post 1625531683 12-14-2020, 03:46 PM
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Strong Christmas Story vibes.

Decrypted message was the serial killer equivalent of "Be sure to drink your ovaltine"


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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Just lol if you don't accept it was Arthur Leigh Allen. Almost ever law enforcement professional knows it was him based on the totality of evidence and circumstances. There just wasnt the evidence to convict him in court and the FBI doesnt make movies unless they have enough evidence for a 98% chance conviction. Thats one reason theres so many serial killers still on the loose. The hard part isnt figuring out who they are, the hard part is finding enough substantiated evidence to use against them in court to put them away.
It wasn't Arthur. DNA testing exonerated him.
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post 1625532693 12-14-2020, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
It wasn't Arthur. DNA testing exonerated him.
DNA evidence does not exonerate someone, it only proves there was other DNA present.

The other circumstances are WAY too much for it to be coincidence. It just isnt plausible that he wasnt the one.

People get confused with how damning DNA evidence can be VS how much it CANT prove if not found.

The only time DNA can really add to exonerating someone is if a case was made almost solely on DNA that was found in court to be that persons then later somehow was proven a mistake occurred and the DNA result was wrong and it belonged to another person.
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post 1625532783 12-14-2020, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
He also had people regularly lick stamps on his letters for him.
No, he did not. The guy who was accusing Arthur said that onlyafterthe DNA exonerated Arthur. There is no evidence Arthur had others lick his envelopes.
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post 1625532793 12-14-2020, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By lnvictus⏩
Has quantum supercompuers

Unable to solve cypher electronically via brute force..


Relies on private citizens to solve it. lmao what..
see below
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He spelled "paradise" wrong.
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Some people think that might be the reason why the text was harder to decode
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
The fingerprint could have been anyones, not just the killer. The police fuked up that case so many times, it was probably one of their own people who left the print on the envelope. Same with the handprint of the cab at Paul Stine's killing.

I studied the case a lot, I am 100% convinced it was Allen, as are Robert Graysmith, Det. Dave Toschi, Det. George Balwart, aka people who studied the case inside and out and interacted with Allen at different points. It was him, they just can't prove it with evidence because he was a genius IQ off the charts, in the military, and in his 30s when the Zodiac killings began. He worked too hard to not leave evidence behind for them to catch him on something stupid like a fingerprint
He got busted molesting kids....

The fact is, while the circumstantial evidence does seem to point to Arthur, any forensic evidence shows it wasn't him.

Like the Golden State Killer, the Zodiac Killer (if ever confirmed) will be someone NOBODY expected.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
That's not true at all. Jeffrey Dahmer's victims were almost all exclusively very fit black men for example. The Golden State Killer would rape women with her boyfriend/husband there all the time.

Most men are cowards.
Ignore Adlerian. He's a frauding moron that tries to appear more intelligent than others by saying retarded **** and relating it to his life. He's considered a joke on multiple forums (srs).
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Isn't Gaikowski the chief suspect??

https://www.zodiackiller.com/SuspectGaikowski.html
post 1625534893 12-14-2020, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
no im not implying that, I have been to classes held by FBI SAC who have openly said they have cases like this. There is implied evidence and substantiated evidence. Implied evidence means jack **** in federal court without enough substantiated evidence.

Zodiac killer was doing this in the 1960s and 70s, they had interviewed him multiple times, followed him, etc... you dont think 50 years later serial killers have learned and evolved and benefit from new technology as well to eliminate evidence?

People get off in court off of emotional murders where they left chit behind, i know its crazy to imagine criminal geniuses who dont ever want to get caught can get away with murder.

the reason people like Ted Bundy and Ted Kacynski got caught is because of other people coming forward and giving information about where evidence was i.e. Bundys ex gf/wife and Kacynski's brother with the cabin.
That had nothing to do with how Bundy was caught or convicted. Peter Sutcliffe was interviewed 9 times but never as an actual suspect, he wasn’t caught because of a horrendously bodged investigation, not because there wasn’t proof. The zodiac killer wasn’t being followed while he was active.

About the only serial killer I can think of who police knew his identity and let him run around was Gacy, and that was because of a bodged search of his home.

Like I said, the idea that serial killers are running around, identified, but can’t be convicted, is nonsense.
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post 1625535113 12-14-2020, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
He was ID'd in 1991 by the dude who survived one of the shootings
He wasn’t certain, if you know anything about the case, you know this, so please don’t lie
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
He was ID'd in 1991 by the dude who survived Lake Herman Road.
He was not 100% on that, and this was like 22 years later. It would never hold up in court.

Handwriting didn't match; ballistics didn't match; no prints matched; no witnesses put him near the scene of the crimes; etc. etc.

Arthur was a weirdo who was convenient to accuse, but there was nothing but circumstantial evidence pointing to him. Graysmith is also a notorious liar (and lost a lawsuit from Arthur's family due to his lies).
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the movie was pretty dope

how's it taken them so damn long to crack those codes tho? and they haven't even cracked everything yet?
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
80% certain after 20+ years from seeing him Hmmmm sounds pretty certain to me
Negged for being a fukin idiot
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
They’re presumably not trying to rape big football dudes, idiot
That's an exaggerated example meant to illustrate a point you f@cking simpleton.

Thanks for AGAIN contributing absolutely nothing to the conversation and attempting to shut it down.

Why do people like you even go on a discussion forum?

Is it something you do after masturbation?
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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
It's worse than that, actually. He was in communication with the police before sending the floppy disk. He asked them if it were possible for them to trace the disk if he were to put information about a specific killing on a floppy disk and send it to him. They said that everything would be fine, basically saying we can't trace it, so he sent it. All they had to do was right click and go to properties to find that Dennis Rader last edited the disk from his church's, which he was the treasurer of, computer.

He was a great serial killer. He, like many serial killers, end up believing that they're uncatchable, so they end up making huge mistakes that put them in prison.

Because the Zodiac Killer is one of the more fascinating serial killers. I always thought that they decoded message would've led them to a hint of his identity, so I've just been waiting for someone to break it for almost 2 decades. Half a century dealing to break a code that one of the cooler serial killers came up with is just fascinating.
BTK was caught because of encrypted metadata left behind from a deleted file. Nothing you would find by just going into properties, you would need some special software that could separate the metadata from the actual file and then decrypt it. Something like elcomsoft would do it.
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Police at this point should hand over the case files to the Misc Investigation Unit.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
That's not true at all. Jeffrey Dahmer's victims were almost all exclusively very fit black men for example. The Golden State Killer would rape women with her boyfriend/husband there all the time.

Most men are cowards.
Dude, Dahmer's victims were homos he picked up in bars.

Some gay dude looking to f@ck is not a formidable man.

He got them back to his place with promises and then poisoned them to death.

There has never been a serial killer that I know of who went after people who could kick his ass or kill him.
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Originally Posted By Xerve⏩
BTK was caught because of encrypted metadata left behind from a deleted file. Nothing you would find by just going into properties, you would need some special software that could separate the metadata from the actual file and then decrypt it. Something like elcomsoft would do it.
I was exaggerating but I didn't think it was that complicated lmao
Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Dude, Dahmer's victims were homos he picked up in bars.

Some gay dude looking to f@ck is not a formidable man.

He got them back to his place with promises and then poisoned them to death.

There has never been a serial killer that I know of who went after people who could kick his ass or kill him.
Which one of your "18 doctorates" gave you the insight to come up with this?
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Dude, Dahmer's victims were homos he picked up in bars.

Some gay dude looking to f@ck is not a formidable man.

He got them back to his place with promises and then poisoned them to death.

There has never been a serial killer that I know of who went after people who could kick his ass or kill him.
Denis Nielsen. Gay serial killer. At least two victims fought him off, all his victims were younger and stronger than him he relied on getting them drunk to strangle them.

And Wournos, obviously. Why don’t you stick to something you know about, like frauding world record squats?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Denis Nielsen. Gay serial killer. At least two victims fought him off, all his victims were younger and stronger than him he relied on getting them drunk to strangle them.

And Wournos, obviously. Why don’t you stick to something you know about, like frauding world record squats?
He frauds about other things these days.
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What about Jack the Ripper, you guys think Aaron Kosminski is a main suspect? One of the lead detectives back then wrote in in his memoirs that it was a lower class Polish Jew by the name of Kosminski. He said they took him to the station for ID and he knew that they were on to him and then he got sent to an asylum where he later died. The only weird thing in the memoir that doesn't match up he said he died shortly after being sent away(1891) yet he died in 1919.
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