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Originally Posted By tricepertops⏩
That's actually not at all what has been discussed.So far the thread says that:
1) Women are primarily attracted to looks
2) Women can not improve in looks into their 40s
3) Genetics are all that matter for looks
4) Women that are attracted to older guys are gold diggers
5) Men are washed up and get no attention into their 40s
All of these are opposite to what I observe IRL, and to all research on the matter.
How are so many miscers perceptions so warped?
1) Women are primarily attracted to looks
2) Women can not improve in looks into their 40s
3) Genetics are all that matter for looks
4) Women that are attracted to older guys are gold diggers
5) Men are washed up and get no attention into their 40s
All of these are opposite to what I observe IRL, and to all research on the matter.
How are so many miscers perceptions so warped?
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If this is what you're leaning on, it's over for you.
Older guys tend to be more confident and accomplished and THAT's where the attraction stems from. One of my classmates last year was this 37 year old gruff looking Afghanistan vet but he was in shape and dressed well. I saw 20-23 year old girls lock their eyes on him more than a few times, was kind of interesting.
Older guys tend to be more confident and accomplished and THAT's where the attraction stems from. One of my classmates last year was this 37 year old gruff looking Afghanistan vet but he was in shape and dressed well. I saw 20-23 year old girls lock their eyes on him more than a few times, was kind of interesting.
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy⏩
Yeah it is. I'm in agreement with you and your assessment of what attracts ppl. The attention I get from girls outside my socially acceptable age range (a few years up and down) increased massively into my 30s. I now get attention from women 18-60. We're in a minority ITTThat's actually not at all what has been discussed.
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Nope, not at all.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
It would be nice if things were as simple as that, but just because you understand things at a simple level doesn't make it correct.Genuine BDE comes natural from genetics in high school.
Artificial BDE can be created later in life through hard work but that is NOT the same.
Artificial BDE can be created later in life through hard work but that is NOT the same.
BDE is entrenched in home upbringing, culture, as well as natural hormone levels. One of my buddies hit his growth spurt in middle school. He was 6'1 in 7th grade and 6'5 in highschool, muscular af tho barely lifted, but came from a very abusive household - he mogged everyone in every way but grew up timid until he moved away to the military and got to "grow into" himself.
But I grew up in a poor area and ton of my friends were in abusive and broken households so they didn't experience and get to grow into their full potential. It really depends.
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Depends on what you mean by "older guys". Early 30's isn't all that old for guys in the dating world. Getting into their 40's, and the pickings start getting slim.
Generally speaking, in terms of serious relationships/marriage, it all boils down to women wanting resources, and the men wanting easy access to regular sex (or the illusion of such). When a younger woman, say ages 18 to about 25, dates a guy in the same age range, it's usually because of the potential access to resources she sees in being with the guy. When a younger woman dates a guy who is about 30 - 40, it's because she already sees the stability/resources the guy has to offer. If a chick who is under age 30 dates a guy who is over 45 years old, it's 100% because she's a gold digger.
I mean, just look around you. How many 40 year old men do you see locking down and wifing up 25 year old HBB's with minimal baggage? It doesn't happen very often, unless the guy is loaded, and/or the woman has baggage that drives guys in her own age range away, like being a single mother. There are some exceptions to this, but they are few and far between. And 99% of the time, the exceptions that actually work out long-term involve women who embrace most aspects of traditional marriage partner roles.
Generally speaking, in terms of serious relationships/marriage, it all boils down to women wanting resources, and the men wanting easy access to regular sex (or the illusion of such). When a younger woman, say ages 18 to about 25, dates a guy in the same age range, it's usually because of the potential access to resources she sees in being with the guy. When a younger woman dates a guy who is about 30 - 40, it's because she already sees the stability/resources the guy has to offer. If a chick who is under age 30 dates a guy who is over 45 years old, it's 100% because she's a gold digger.
I mean, just look around you. How many 40 year old men do you see locking down and wifing up 25 year old HBB's with minimal baggage? It doesn't happen very often, unless the guy is loaded, and/or the woman has baggage that drives guys in her own age range away, like being a single mother. There are some exceptions to this, but they are few and far between. And 99% of the time, the exceptions that actually work out long-term involve women who embrace most aspects of traditional marriage partner roles.
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy⏩
Yeah I definitely get more attention now than before, or easier to notice now. Especially when out with the kids. That's a factor that nobody tells you. Every now and again a group of chicks will swoon over my kids in public but there's always one or two giving me side-eye. I call it mother nature's cruel joke on men.I can get attention from 20s-60. For men, a combination of looks, fitness, some style, confidence, and stability checks most of the blocks. Chicks can be interested in some or all of those.
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I work as a lawyer, so most of my friends are finally starting to make a lot of money by their late 20s. The ones that stayed in shape and kept their hair (and somehow haven't been trapped into a marriage) are absolutely slaying beyond anything they ever did when they were younger. IMO with MeToo and everything I am happily married and out of the game. Just feels exhausting.
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Originally Posted By SnipeItLikePro⏩
You get your body in shape, you get your skin and hair together, you smell good, you dress well, you wear great shoes( it matters to them) and you are confident.Yeah true. I just wanted to keep it brief. The reasoning is apparently behind the status and social position of the older guys.
Basically meaning women are attracted to their status.
Basically meaning women are attracted to their status.
The idea is that you are so together, that they want to be around "that guy"
No one is checking id's.....
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Maybe not a bad idea considering the demographic you target.Wrong I check ID.
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if they stayed in shape and have $$$$$ then yeah
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Only the top tier men still attract younger women. Most men, like women, age like ****. Most men also have chit tier jobs and chit tier salaries so of course they won’t have success. It’s much easier to get hot ass 16-21 year olds when you’re their age.
But for the women older than like 23 it’s extremely easy to get them when you’re my age aka 31 if you have a good job and aren’t a fat fuking slob. Younger prime girls 16-21 in general are a pain in the ass and value looks over everything. You can still get them as an older dude but it’s almost worth just paying for a sugar baby at this point due to their bull****. You also rarely interact with them so good luck getting them unless you like work together but how many 30+ year old men still work with 18 year olds?
Overall I get laid much more now than my 20s and fuk hotter chicks now but that’s because I did well in school and now have a respected high paying job (anesthetist).
But for the women older than like 23 it’s extremely easy to get them when you’re my age aka 31 if you have a good job and aren’t a fat fuking slob. Younger prime girls 16-21 in general are a pain in the ass and value looks over everything. You can still get them as an older dude but it’s almost worth just paying for a sugar baby at this point due to their bull****. You also rarely interact with them so good luck getting them unless you like work together but how many 30+ year old men still work with 18 year olds?
Overall I get laid much more now than my 20s and fuk hotter chicks now but that’s because I did well in school and now have a respected high paying job (anesthetist).
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014⏩
I dont know man. I'm an engineer. Nothing crazy. Around 30-32 I felt like I had finally made it, got licensed. Had money, time and was in good shape. Ended up getting my girl pregnant at 33 and it is kinda sad knowing those days are over. Just the fun of bachelorhood. But the dating world was starting to get kinda weird though with the times. Now that I have a kid and working on the wife part, I feel like I got out of the game at a good time. Luckily I was pretty safe with who i busted in over the years.I work as a lawyer, so most of my friends are finally starting to make a lot of money by their late 20s. The ones that stayed in shape and kept their hair (and somehow haven't been trapped into a marriage) are absolutely slaying beyond anything they ever did when they were younger. IMO with MeToo and everything I am happily married and out of the game. Just feels exhausting.
Like an athlete that had a solid career, but I still had a few good seasons left in me.
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The ones who try yes. They hook up with more hotties than the older guys who don’t try to get their dicks wet as often.
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If you were slaying prime hot chicks at 20 you will slay at 35 too, assuming you take great care of yourself in all areas. Over 40 years old and you are pushing it i think, but still doable, you just need even better genetics and put a BIG focus on your personal appearance... however to be over 40 and still have the time to put that much focus on your looks, that is a privilege TBH.
tl;dr: yeah they can but not likely
tl;dr: yeah they can but not likely
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Am 36.
Am good looking guy.
No, chicks are not fawning over me.
As stated, the only time it gets the desired effect is dudes who are straight up 10/10's.
Better-than-average joes like me get the same level of attention we got in our 20s.
Also factor in that as I've aged I've spent less time partying it up - can't actually stand most of the younger generation - and most nights would rather sit at home and have a beer with the wifey.
Am good looking guy.
No, chicks are not fawning over me.
As stated, the only time it gets the desired effect is dudes who are straight up 10/10's.
Better-than-average joes like me get the same level of attention we got in our 20s.
Also factor in that as I've aged I've spent less time partying it up - can't actually stand most of the younger generation - and most nights would rather sit at home and have a beer with the wifey.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
did you meet these girls in the kink community?There is a subset of women that are always going to be attracted to older men as a sort of daddy figure. This is especially true in the kink community where daddy dominant/little girl submissive relationships are possible - it's mostly sexually related but often these couples do form relationships. But there's also regular vanilla girls who just want security of an older, mature guy, usually because they want to feel protected or safe due to issues.
If you're an older guy and you want to date younger women, these are the girls to go after and you simply have to learn how to spot them. They don't really exist on dating apps, at least not the conventional ones. I'm 46 and I've dated women in their early 20's in the past six months, both of whom were definitely cute enough to date guys their own age. They just liked the fact I was mature, didn't take any crap and was calling the shots.
If you're an older guy and you want to date younger women, these are the girls to go after and you simply have to learn how to spot them. They don't really exist on dating apps, at least not the conventional ones. I'm 46 and I've dated women in their early 20's in the past six months, both of whom were definitely cute enough to date guys their own age. They just liked the fact I was mature, didn't take any crap and was calling the shots.
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014⏩
What's "a lot of money"? Like big law, pulling 300k and up? Or like 100-150kish.I work as a lawyer, so most of my friends are finally starting to make a lot of money by their late 20s. The ones that stayed in shape and kept their hair (and somehow haven't been trapped into a marriage) are absolutely slaying beyond anything they ever did when they were younger. IMO with MeToo and everything I am happily married and out of the game. Just feels exhausting.
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Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
how much do you make?Only the top tier men still attract younger women. Most men, like women, age like ****. Most men also have chit tier jobs and chit tier salaries so of course they won’t have success. It’s much easier to get hot ass 16-21 year olds when you’re their age.
But for the women older than like 23 it’s extremely easy to get them when you’re my age aka 31 if you have a good job and aren’t a fat fuking slob. Younger prime girls 16-21 in general are a pain in the ass and value looks over everything. You can still get them as an older dude but it’s almost worth just paying for a sugar baby at this point due to their bull****. You also rarely interact with them so good luck getting them unless you like work together but how many 30+ year old men still work with 18 year olds?
Overall I get laid much more now than my 20s and fuk hotter chicks now but that’s because I did well in school and now have a respected high paying job (anesthetist).
But for the women older than like 23 it’s extremely easy to get them when you’re my age aka 31 if you have a good job and aren’t a fat fuking slob. Younger prime girls 16-21 in general are a pain in the ass and value looks over everything. You can still get them as an older dude but it’s almost worth just paying for a sugar baby at this point due to their bull****. You also rarely interact with them so good luck getting them unless you like work together but how many 30+ year old men still work with 18 year olds?
Overall I get laid much more now than my 20s and fuk hotter chicks now but that’s because I did well in school and now have a respected high paying job (anesthetist).
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I see guys on fetlife 45 and up smashing really hot sloots.
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A good looking guy in his mid 30s has a better chance with high quality women than any guy in his mid 20s. The key being good looking.
With age comes maturity, money, and experience. If you're talking about just sleeping with women, then that's a whole different scenario. I've gotten more and more attention the older I get from women, high quality women. The younger ones are starting to fade out for me (early 20s). Likely just looking for a bang and don't care about a LTR, so maturity, money and experience matter less.
With age comes maturity, money, and experience. If you're talking about just sleeping with women, then that's a whole different scenario. I've gotten more and more attention the older I get from women, high quality women. The younger ones are starting to fade out for me (early 20s). Likely just looking for a bang and don't care about a LTR, so maturity, money and experience matter less.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
Absolutely. When I am with my daughters I get a lot of looks from "settle down age" women. This past weekend in FL we were at the beach and in boats. Me being with my girls, having fun, and in shape was a good combo.Yeah I definitely get more attention now than before, or easier to notice now. Especially when out with the kids. That's a factor that nobody tells you. Every now and again a group of chicks will swoon over my kids in public but there's always one or two giving me side-eye. I call it mother nature's cruel joke on men.
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I'm 46 in great shape (sub 10% body fat) with a good career and dress well. I've never had so much attention in my years as I have right now. Most men are failures and have let themselves go so the "competition" is ridiculously thin. I literally have 5-10 women that would have immediate interest if something happen to my current relationship status.
With that said, Im happily married and no interest. My wife is hot and is more awesome than 99.99% of the women on the planet. She is actually funny, likes to drink with friends, doesnt nag...so I pretty much have it made.
With that said, Im happily married and no interest. My wife is hot and is more awesome than 99.99% of the women on the planet. She is actually funny, likes to drink with friends, doesnt nag...so I pretty much have it made.
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Yes. Can confirm.
34 year year old, tall in great shape and very good looking. girls get moistened for me daily. Dudes are give me plenty of double looks.
Plus a full head of hair even after bicycles.
34 year year old, tall in great shape and very good looking. girls get moistened for me daily. Dudes are give me plenty of double looks.
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I'm only 27, but can easily say I've gotten more female attention the older I've gotten. I'm a completely different person at 27 than I was at 25, when I was completely different than at 22. Focusing on maintaining a healthy body and mind, managing my career and money and investments, experiencing more in life and developing hobbies and skills... things only continue to get better boyos (srs)
good to hear from brahs in their 30's confirming this and that this trajectory does indeed continue
good to hear from brahs in their 30's confirming this and that this trajectory does indeed continue
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