Also you're not counting the fact that a lot of young men nowadays have grown up in a highly tech world and under a single mom. They were fukked before they even started. They're online constantly and not out in "the real world". They are not going to coffee shops, bars, supermarkets, etc. Even the college age guys are not going to parties, saying hi to the classmate next to them, chatting other students in line for coffee or the printer, not saying hi and playing pick up games in the gym. Thats how I met my friends in college and built a social network and NOT GOING ONLINE ALL DAY FFS. Younger guys are so closed off from reality and I didnt even begin to talk about growing up under a single mom which is the worst environment for a male to grow into a man without another man guiding and parenting him.

Well yes if guys want to wait until desperate used up women in their late 30s finally lower their standards, it might work for some. But nobody with any self respect will do that.

Online dating has completely changed the sexual marketplace. You can't escape it, even meeting someone irl is way different because the dynamic online has created

No I don’t think they’re lying, but I think it’s likely they have a warped perspective.

On that note, here’s an extract from an article about psychiatry. Even though the author is talking about psychiatry, what he says about perspective and close-mindedness apply generally:

“You know those white dashed lines separating the lanes in a highway? How long are they? Answer: _____________ Most people I ask say 3 feet. The real answer is 10 feet. Surprised? And that’s the first problem in psychiatry: perspective. Your perspective is always driving at 60mph, so they look 3 feet long. Unless you change your perspective, you never get to see the truth. Worse, much worse, you go through life confident they are three feet.

Which brings us to the second problem: closed mindedness. Even though I’ve told you the truth, you still don’t believe it—that’s how powerful your perspective is. “He must be talking about some other lines, maybe in France?” Unless you change your perspective, you will never be open to the truth, to the discovery that what you have thought, for your entire life, is wrong. Unless you get out of your car and measure those lines, you’ll never accept the truth.”

Where on earth do you see any indication of it getting better?

Maybe if you're the type of guy that deliberately limits all his prospects to online dating. It's been proven over and over that all dating apps are like 80% men and only 20% female. The women are out there in the real world, and they are always whining that men don't approach them in real life.

Except a lot of women have their own money, don't need a provider or a husband beneath their standards. They can freeze eggs and get spern donors for children.

Women don't need or want men badly enough to settle for unattractive options, they'd rather be alone.

Lol, those women are whining because the men THEY WANT don't approach them. If a bunch of unattractive options started approaching constantly she'd complain about that too

This. You must max out yourself physically and mentally and get real practice in. Girls are delighted as fukk when an at least average looking dude says hi and flirts a little. Sure that guy might not bang her (she wasnt available etc) but he 1) got some practice in 2) furthered himself in life skills 3) he slayed personal dragons (think of the anxiety of approaching a girl - they absolutely love it when a dude has the balls to do this) 4) he might even make a friend who has available friends (this is controversial, but I have found that when there are girls in your social circle, it brings more girls somehow like a black hole sucking in gravity - other girls feel safer and more okay around you

I hear women my age and younger say this all the time too. They make a point of saying it, they believe in high standards. And it makes sense.

And that doesn't mean 'chad only' but the minimum standard is definitely a lot higher than the past.

I am unattractive. There are unattractive men in the world. I'm one of them. Facts are facts. I have no idea why some of you refuse to acknowledge objective reality

Except that isn't dumb, it makes sense. If I had a daughter I'd tell her to have high standards too. If I was a woman id have high standards. It just sucks for men who don't make the cut.

My face is meh. Some have called me ugly but most say average. Either way it's not enough to compensate for being so short

Its not limited to looks, but it includes looks. Looks alone might not be enough, but that doesn't mean you don't need looks. Its necessary, not sufficient.

rollerball is right. Yes women can gravitate to chads and do give them sex but women do care about "hooking" a guy. And believe me, you dont want to be the sloppy seconds. No guy does. But there are genuinely girls out there that just arent like that. Just the other day in computer lab I saw a kind of geeky but cute girl. And I mean GEEK, not the fake geek kind that has onlyfans and twitch streams all over. I mean a quiet and genuinely nerdy type of girl with a nice face. Not hot at all but not ugly. Im still beating myself up for not saying hi.

How do you know that chick doesn't get railed by alpha males from tinder every weekend?

she's not like that, don't say that.

also

Spoiler!

How do you know?

Op post a pic of yourself and we can give advice for you on how to looksmaxx.

Like I mentioned, lifting is great advice.

We might compare ourselves to men's health type physiques and gave into dismay but you gotta go lift.

You can say paying for a gym membership and the workout lifestyle is just massive cope for your genetics when some people get height/facial surgery, but it's an improvement nonetheless for yourself.

It's a dedication to yourself that woman see and appreciate on a primal level.

i don't, she very well could be. i dont think every woman is getting railed by hordes of chads from tinder (some have no interest in casual sex), but at the same time with how easily that could be the case and the social pressure to sloot/"hoe phase" nowadays, i would understand a man assuming that is the case until proven otherwise.


but why do you keep ducking the question, big balls? don't live up to your name?

Spoiler!

My balls barely fit in my pants bro. Massive meatballs and the breadstick to match.

Too bad it goes to complete waste

I've posted pics like 10 times on the misc, its always the same chit.

I'm 5 foot 3. They don't care about dedication if you're 5 foot 3.

Is OP an incel?

Maybe the cure is to quit bitching about your life and actually do something about it.

I mean, with some of you, what is it that would even attract the opposite sex? Hell, you guys make threads bragging about being 30 and living at home with your parents. You think that's attractive to a female?

Yes I'm an incel.

I make 6 figures. Have my own car. Have my own house. In shape. Have friends.

Is this not enough?.what are you supposed to do to get an average women then? Be superman?

Brutal.

If I was 5'3 for sure I'd consider limb lengthening surgery.


I mean I get your peril because the amount of women shorter than 5'3 are less for you to date.

A lot of short chicks still like tall guys too. A complete myth that short girls are ok with short guys.

Limb lengthening surgery isn't like a normal thing. It costs tons of money and is rare and hard to do. Also not something you ever fully heal from

stop making excuses. here's a list of things you can get done TOMORROW to make you attractive to women if you weren't such a WHINY baby. i bet you won't do any of these:

- grow TALLER. visit a doctor to open up the growth plates, this should be an outpatient procedure with minimal recovery. they also have the one where they shatter your limbs and put rods if that's more your speed, recovery should be ez.
- upgrade your INCOME. 6 figures is nice, I guess. but with President Brandon's hyperinflation, that's basically minimum wage. why do you ONLY have a bachelors from an Ivy? why no Ivy PhD? take the GRE TOMORROW
- start a 7 figure SIDE HUSTLE. 1 income is NOT enough. EVERY male of value has MULTIPLE streams of income
- get 500k followers on INSTAGRAM. if you are a man of VALUE, people will naturally GRAVITATE towards you. if you did all the above points, this one should be AUTOMATIC
- become a BAD BOY, women hate nice guys. you could commit an armed robbery TONIGHT if you were SERIOUS about becoming a mysterious attractive bad boy


but you're a whiny PUSSY, so bet you won't do ANY of these, make up EXCUSES, or you'll IGNORE my post entirely.