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post 1656340763 02-17-2022, 03:31 AM
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fuaaark stay safe Ukraine boyos!
How is the invasion going? Have they reached Kiev yet?
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Originally Posted By dusky99
As an American why the fuk should I care if a tiny region called Donbass is part of Russia or Ukraine?
Because things are looking so bad for the Democrats in this year's midterm election, dragging us into another foreign war is the kind of thing Biden might do in a desperate attempt to unite Independents with his party.


The Guardian has been reporting on the shelling. They don't seem to be clear on who's doing it. It sounds like both sides are blaming the other. There are pictures of a kindergarten that was hit, and luckily, there were no kids there.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...nvasion-threat
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Patrick Reevell @Reevellp·55min
Moscow reporter for @ABC News.
Unsettling signs from the Russian-controlled separatist regions in Ukraine this morning.
The separatists accuse Ukraine of "large-scale" shelling and claim the situation has "substantially worsened".
The worry is they're laying the groundwork to justify a Russian attack.



Patrick Reevell@Reevellp
Now no question today the Russian-controlled separatists are claiming a major escalation. It continues laying the ground for a possible pretext for a Russian invasion if needed.
Remains to be seen if Russia is planning to use it or if it's still about stoking tension for now.








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Buzzfeed Ukraine
They're throwing everything for a potential pretext at the wall to see if it sticks. Here's a sample of headlines published just in the past hour from Russia-backed separatist info site, citing their "intelligence" agency. (All unconfirmed and dubious, to say the least.)



Christopher Miller@ChristopherJM 15min
Worrying: "The situation near the borders of Russia can ignite at any moment," Kremlin spox Dmitry Peskov said this morning, per TASS. Peskov also claimed without evidence Ukraine's army has taken "provocative actions that have only intensified in the last day or several days."

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Originally Posted By DDSF1
Footage can be created, doctored, manipulated, etc. The chances of Russia doing a false flag, as opposed to the CIA/Mossad is almost non-existent. Who does false flags as standard operating procedure?

Maybe Russia does "invade" but that invasion would be based on intelligence of an imminent attack of some sort.

Russia has to make a stand at this point or it will be surrounded with lots of firepower pointed at it.

Finally, Soros financed the color revolution in 2014 that started this. It was done by the CIA and Mossad. They have not stopped because the goal was always to surround and neutralize Russia.
Where do you stand on Russian dissidents being killed abroad and the apartment bombings?
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Russia-backed forces shelled the music room of a kindergarten in far-eastern Stanytsia Luhanska, Luhansk region, at 9am this morning, according to local reports, local city admin, & NGO Proliska. Children were present but unharmed. Two teachers said to have suffered concussions.








[This is in the 'breakaway' {Russian-controlled} eastern Ukraine region of Donbas which includes Luhansk and Donetsk cities]



Christopher Miller@ChristopherJM·2h
The shelling comes amid a flurry of reports today from Russian state media & local Moscow-backed separatists on ******** of Ukrainian shelling and provocations — none of which have been confirmed. The concern is that these may create a pretext for Moscow to launch a new attack.


Kyiv, the US, NATO, and Western governments have been warning for weeks and increasingly in recent days that Russia could stage "false flag" attacks to justify a new invasion of Ukraine. There is of course precedent for this in this eight-year war.

Vladimir Putin has repeatedly claimed falsely that Ukrainian forces are carrying out a "genocide" in the Donbas. His latest use of this term came just this week. These shelling reports are being spun by Russian propagandists as part of this "genocide." US has called Moscow out:


U.S. Mission to OSCE@usosce · 20h
Russia’s claim of genocide in Ukraine is a reprehensible falsehood. The SMM has complete access to the government controlled areas of Ukraine and HAS NEVER reported anything remotely resembling Russia’s claims. Read the publicly available reports. https://osce.org/ukraine-smm/reports



Christopher Miller@ChristopherJM·1h
Two more photos from Stanytsia Luhanska, shared by Ukraine's Joint Forces Operation and confirmed through local news and NGO on the scene, show people taking shelter in a basement during the shelling and the aftermath of the school's music and play room that was hit by artillery.






This is part of the 'shelling your own things' false flag in order to justify further war.

so corny it's unreal
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Send in Biden's elite tranny shock force battalion. That'll lern 'em!
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post 1656342233 02-17-2022, 04:36 AM
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This was exactly the same statement word for word that was used prior to invading Georgia on 2008, just replace 'Ukraine' with 'Georgia' and it's the same--->

Kremlin spox Dmitry Peskov an hour ago:
" Ukraine's army has taken provocative actions that have only intensified in the last day"



Russia was also preparing its invasion force under the cover of a military exercise before the invasion of Georgia

Russia also announced that it had withdrawn its troops from the exercise area before the invasion of Georgia







New/Unusual smoke coming from the Russian embassy in Kiev.


maybe burning docs
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
This was exactly the same statement word for word that was used prior to invading Georgia on 2008, just replace 'Ukraine' with 'Georgia' and it's the same--->

Kremlin spox Dmitry Peskov an hour ago:
" Ukraine's army has taken provocative actions that have only intensified in the last day"



Russia was also preparing its invasion force under the cover of a military exercise before the invasion of Georgia

Russia also announced that it had withdrawn its troops from the exercise area before the invasion of Georgia







New/Unusual smoke coming from the Russian embassy in Kiev.


maybe burning docs
Yeah sounds a lot like US propaganda before invading a bunch of goat herders.
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I'd say we drop as many nukes on the AXIS ASAP before they can get their beloved f15 and f35s up in the air(which was made from stolen native resources btw, you guys arn't that impressive)
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Lol at Ukraine just lol.

The Ukrainian people are decent but unfortunately for them the Soviet Union essentially paralyzed them as a country and filled the leadership ranks of their government with disloyal and corrupt Jews.

It’s now nothing but a corrupt, Jewish-run chithole country that subsequently has no allies.

They have no chance resisting Russia.
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Get ready *******s
Storm of war is coming
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What I hate the most about these stupid forums are the clickbait titles.
At least on r/worldnews, despite being cucks, they don't allow you to post clickbait titles.

Reality: Nothing is happening.
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Originally Posted By Babayagawick85
Get ready *******s
Storm of war is coming
yep

it's here

It still may take a few days before the full intensity ramps but it looks like this is the provocation incident we were waiting for.
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Originally Posted By Babayagawick85
Get ready *******s
Storm of war is coming
Any minute now fuaaaaaark
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
If you wanna see how evil Putin and the clowns around him are ...

The 1999 Russian apartment bombings in which Putin's agents bombed apt bldgs in Russia with lots of deaths -
I feel like Nicolas Cage in Lord of War, in that final scene with Ethan Hawke where he's explaining him how the world works.
You have a very strange obsession with Putin, all the conspiracy theories about bombings 20+ years ago with 'many deaths'. I am not defending him, but just as Nicolas Cage said, United States do more damage in a day than he does in a year. How many millions of people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq alone? You're sitting here preaching about Georgia and Ukraine where hardly anyone died compared to millions of deaths and dozens of countries going under American knife.

Once again, I am not defending anyone but if you're going to be a righteous warrior, perhaps you should look at the bigger picture. All human and world powers are the same, nothing but a struggle for power. But the difference is, Putin and Russia is nothing compared to United States, it's 800+ bases across the world and their Coup d'état operations across the world in the last 70+ years. Unites States demonize others but if you put bs aside, they have killed millions for their interests and dominance across the world for the last 70+ years. The evil they have caused in unmatched.

So unless you're a paid bot, I'd probably stop with all this nonsense, I don't think anyone is buying it.
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Originally Posted By foXs
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You're confused.

I hate the hyper-corrupt tyrants of the US gov just as much as I do the hyper-corrupt tyrants of the Russian gov.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
You're confused.

I hate the hyper-corrupt tyrants of the US gov just as much as I do the hyper-corrupt tyrants of the Russian gov.
Hegemon powers doing hegemon things.
Germany & Japan are probably the sanest states in the world today, along with Canada, Sweden, etc.
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Sec State Blinken just made an abrupt change of plans and is hopping a plane to NYC right now to the UN to meet face to face with the Russian ambassador and rest of UN

one of the major purposes of the UN was to prevent big wars after WWII but they failed many times and they'll probably fail with this one too


crazy times man
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
Sec State Blinken just made an abrupt change of plans and is hopping a plane to NYC right now to the UN to meet face to face with the Russian ambassador and rest of UN. one of the major purposes of the UN was to prevent big wars after WWII but they failed many times and they'll probably fail with this one too
crazy times man
The UN is nonsensical as its a bloated organisation with too many members from differing civilisations/spheres, that cannot find a common goal.
It's the league of nations all over again. All it's ensured is that nothing happens in that organisation as one permanent security council member always vetoes the rest.
As obsolete as NATO is, it is a superior organisation, and so is the EU.
Both of these organisations need to be strengthened.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
yep

it's here

It still may take a few days before the full intensity ramps but it looks like this is the provocation incident we were waiting for.
Yeah you’re right
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
Sec State Blinken just made an abrupt change of plans and is hopping a plane to NYC right now to the UN to meet face to face with the Russian ambassador and rest of UN

one of the major purposes of the UN was to prevent big wars after WWII but they failed many times and they'll probably fail with this one too


crazy times man
Holy****
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whoa wtf ...


Rus response: "In the absence of the readiness of the American side to agree on firm, legally binding guarantees to ensure our security from the US and its allies, Russia will be forced to respond, including through the implementation of measures of a military-technical nature"

then

Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs website is down, shortly after the announcement of the expulsion of US Deputy Ambassador Bartle Gorman from the country. The site hosted the letter of response to the US -->

https://www.mid.ru/en/



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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
whoa wtf ...


Rus response: "In the absence of the readiness of the American side to agree on firm, legally binding guarantees to ensure our security from the US and its allies, Russia will be forced to respond, including through the implementation of measures of a military-technical nature"

then

Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs website is down, shortly after the announcement of the expulsion of US Deputy Ambassador Bartle Gorman from the country. The site hosted the letter of response to the US -->

https://www.mid.ru/en/



Cyberattacks on both sides would be massive in case of a war.
This would be expected. Hackers from both sides are working furiously right now.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
This may be it or maybe not; we will see ....

because

there's been back and forth deadly conflict between Ukrainian forces and Russian forces right along the line of contact in Donbas for 7+ years; ever since Russian forces took over Luhansk-Donetsk from Ukraine under orders from Putin

there are literally trenches and other fortifications by both sides all across the front line spaced a few hundred meters to a km apart.


HOWEVER ...

It was discovered a week and a half ago that the Russians were preparing a false flag in Donbas to blame Ukraine and to be used as a fake excuse casus belli for Russia's attack on Ukraine ... just like they did with numerous other invasions and attacks in the past for example Georgia 2008.

It was also discovered that the planned go time by Russia was last night after midnight eastern US time or 8 am Moscow time. So we're instead just 24 hrs after the original time.

The Russian gov incl Putin and his controlled media have been building a false narrative against Ukraine as well and even yesterday Putin called the Donbas situation a 'genocide' when in reality the only one creating problems there is him.













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ps. For those who want to keep up with the Russia-Ukraine situation these are good twitter accounts and threads that are posting late info























threads where intelligent ppl are rapidly updating info -->

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/f...4744473/pg1156

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/...99714/?page=67

https://godlike.com/forum1/message4958315/pg264

If you're new there then just read and do not post. GLP allows non-registered to post in some threads but will auto-ban for all sorts of things like certain phrases and links so best to just read for now

In threads like those I usually scroll quickly skip past any basic comments without links, vids, sources whatever if I'm pressed for time which is almost always, and mostly just pay attention to the ones with visible links/tweets/vids although sometimes just the regular plain comments can have good info too.


Those are great places to get up to date.

If you're a phone thumber who likes keeping up with and discussing current events, get yourself a laptop or desktop computer instead. Phone thumbers are dumbed down and limited in abilities too much.




in addition this dude is doing live feeds with commentary -

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheLocolee/videos

here's the current live stream but he does a new one every 12 hours or so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVDA4bmfteo
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
whoa wtf ...


Rus response: "In the absence of the readiness of the American side to agree on firm, legally binding guarantees to ensure our security from the US and its allies, Russia will be forced to respond, including through the implementation of measures of a military-technical nature"

then

Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs website is down, shortly after the announcement of the expulsion of US Deputy Ambassador Bartle Gorman from the country. The site hosted the letter of response to the US -->

https://www.mid.ru/en/



Omg this is not good
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I hope you boys are registered with Selective Services. Biden's gonna have you on a plane soon
This


A world war is about to begin. You ****s better be ready.
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