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post 1664375983 07-14-2022, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Are the Biden Blamers not realizing this is a worldwide scenario?:

In the UK 9.1%:https://www.npr.org/2022/06/22/11066...ar-high-of-9-1

Netherlands 8.6%:https://tradingeconomics.com/netherlands/inflation-cpi


I understand this is American data released by the Federal government, though, and that's what people will talk about unless someone specified otherwise. No one denies it's bad and steadily worsening, with political stability on the rise, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Care to explain though, that at the shops this morning the price of my milk had increased 50%. How is this Biden's fault, given that I live as far as humanly possible on Earth from him, and I'm in a very remote area twice the size of Texas with 0.4% of the population?
How does my milk going up over double have anything to do with the Netherlands?
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post 1664376043 07-14-2022, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Sal29
75 basis points, or even 100 basis points aren't enough of an increase. There needs to be a 200 basis point increase and extreme quantitative tightening. Yes, there will be a big recession, people will lose their jobs, etc, but will effect a good chunk of the US while hyperinflation effects like 95% of Americans.
And will do SFA for inflation given that most of it is currently supply side, and interest rates are a demand control tool (and a blunt one at that).
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post 1664376393 07-14-2022, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
There are many factors but first and foremost it was the expected and predicted result of greatly expanding the money supply by printing money out of thin air to send out covid stimulus checks and other 'economic relief payments' to individuals and businesses.

Both Republicans and Democrats and both Trump and Biden are responsible for this.

We talked about it right here. I made posts about it and so did many others saying this would happen and here we are.

I wish I had my old posts on this from 2020.


https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WM2NS


Another factor not often discussed is the fact that importing vast numbers of foreigners, suddenly greatly increasing the numbers like has happened in recent years, also causes inflation due to increasing competition for / demand for goods and services.

Also China raising the costs of its once cheap products is yet another factor.


ps. I did enjoy my stimulus checks though. can I has more pls?
Originally Posted By Bodhy
Are the Biden Blamers not realizing this is a worldwide scenario?:

In the UK 9.1%:https://www.npr.org/2022/06/22/11066...ar-high-of-9-1

Netherlands 8.6%:https://tradingeconomics.com/netherlands/inflation-cpi


I understand this is American data released by the Federal government, though, and that's what people will talk about unless someone specified otherwise. No one denies it's bad and steadily worsening, with political stability on the rise, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Care to explain though, that at the shops this morning the price of my milk had increased 50%. How is this Biden's fault, given that I live as far as humanly possible on Earth from him, and I'm in a very remote area twice the size of Texas with 0.4% of the population?
UK also increased its money supply just like the US and at nearly the same time and rate

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...oney-supply-m2
[click on the 10Y button at the top of chart]


It is a good point however that many other countries are also having inflation problems now.

It's not just a US problem, and it's definitely a multi-factorial problem.
post 1664376933 07-14-2022, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Are the Biden Blamers not realizing this is a worldwide scenario?:
I’m gonna make a detailed thread later this week but here are the thoughts
Originally Posted By gachase21
Anyone screaming “but but but it’s worldwide!!!”


This is our core vs Europe






And the United States economy is so monstrous the rest of the world is exponentially impacted by our movements.

The extended artificial demand we unnecessarily passed last March exacerbated worldwide inflation- especially with the loss of labor.

We paid trillions the previous year to keep all the jobs open- Way too much money handed out- learned a lesson and then oddly completely ignored the lesson we learned- this last March bill thus this


Let’s not forget that executive order the first week in office that allowed workers to quit just because they were scared to work - and then got unemployment. In turn- it literally took them out of the work force where many haven’t returned yet.



Add a known weak president who Russia knew they could exploit, then we result in this BS- and carry the world with us.
Originally Posted By gachase21
Worldwide inflation was going to happen we just greatly exacerbated it.

You’ll find plenty of smaller gdp some higher percent - but compared to an equal combine collective core we screwed it.


Starting with the 2020 bill- then after learning our lesson from bad ideas on an all new event first time event go around - we made it even worse in 2021. Much worse .

We could’ve actually done some of the Fed action and we did without making it as bad- if we didn’t plop so much of it into the consumer artificial demand stage.


And the consumers are still +2,000,000,000,000 in deposits.
Originally Posted By gachase21
You are gonna talk about the individual country.

No compare a total size GDP- with thecorecomparison like I did.


When the United States consumers buy stuff -the world has to make stuff

When the United States consumer gets trillions of dollars in artificial demand -it spirals the entire world is to exacerbated inflation more than it would have had.

We are the world buying power.
We really screwed up the supply chains
Originally Posted By gachase21
Exactly my point

So when supplies were down, systems weren’t online yet, key components weren’t available yet, manufacturing processes weren’t restarted yet…

We had already dumped a few trillion dollars into United States consumers bucket so they could quickly buy chit from systems that weren’t close to ready for it yet.

We made it worse.

Things needed to come back on slowly


After learning that lesson we did it again.- and on the second time we even put in processes to discourage people from working to make manufacturing come back up even slower.
post 1664378103 07-14-2022, 06:58 AM
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Producers price index rise more than expected
The producer price index for final demand increased 11.3% from June of last year and 1.1% from the prior month, Labor Department data showed Thursday. That followed upward revisions to the May figures. Three-fourths of the advance last month was due to goods, particularly energy.

Excluding the volatile food and energy components, the so-called core PPI climbed 0.4% from a month earlier and rose 8.2% from a year ago.

The median forecasts in a Bloomberg survey of economists called for a 10.7% year-over-year increase for the overall PPI and a 0.8% monthly advance.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-broad-advance




https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ppi.pdf
post 1664378453 07-14-2022, 07:06 AM
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Just went golfing yesterday and the course has almost doubled its cost lmao. Thanks fuk face Biden

Inflation at a golf course
post 1664380973 07-14-2022, 08:09 AM
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The first part of Tucker carlson's talking points was about the high inflation report. What was new to me was his point that the high inflation seen today is different from the 1970s inflation. In the 70s wages were keeping up with, or close to, the high inflation rate. With the inflation seen today under Biden, real wage income is dropping.

"Tucker Carlson: The most dishonest people are yelling loudest for a war with Russia
Tucker Carlson exposes billions in Ukraine funding while Americans suffer"

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...est-war-russia

excerpt:

So, the biggest annual spike in inflation in more than 40 years. That's the headline. But if anything, it understates what's actually going on. The reality of it is worse than that. During the Carter years, when inflation famously hit 14.6%, wages were still going up. As Pew put it in a recent analysis, "During the high inflation years of the 1970s and early 1980s, average wages commonly jumped seven, eight, even 9% year over year" and that makes sense. There's more money in circulation. It's worth less, but there's more of it. But that is not what is happening right now and that's the weird thing.

According to the Labor Department report today, "Real average hourly earnings decreased 3.6%, seasonally adjusted from June 2021 to June 2022. The change in real average hourly earnings, combined with a decrease of 0.9% of the average workweek, resulted in a 4.4% decrease in real average weekly earnings over this period." 4.4% average decrease in earnings. This is what economic disaster looks like.

Americans are making less money at exactly the moment when everything they buy from gas to groceries is more expensive and not just a little more expensive, a lot more expensive. Here's the big picture. The average American household income this year is about $87,000.

Today's inflation numbers means the average household is losing nearly $8,000 a year just from inflation. By the way, that's using the government's cooked numbers, the 9.1% inflation number, which is derived from the intentionally deceptive consumer price index (CPI), so the real number is actually higher than that. Rising inflation with falling wages. This is very bad, and as we said, it's also very weird. How weird? Well, here's one measure of the strangeness. The price of gas is now much cheaper in Mexico than it is in the United States, and that's why so many Californians are now driving across the border to fill their cars. ....

.....REPORTER: "For as long as it takes." Does it mean indefinite support from the United States or Ukraine, or will there come a time when you have to say to President Zelenskyy that the United States cannot support his country any longer? Thank you.

PRESIDENT BIDEN: We are going to support Ukraine as long as it takes. We are going to stick with Ukraine and all of the allies will stick with Ukraine as long as it takes.

REPORTER: The war has pushed prices up. It could go as high as $200 a barrel, some analysts think. How long is it fair to expect American drivers and drivers around the world to pay that premium for this war?

BIDEN: As long as it takes. Russia cannot, in fact, defeat Ukraine and move beyond Ukraine.

Future generations will look at that tape and many tapes like it with their jaws open. As long as it takes! Whatever the cost for Ukraine! As the American economy heads toward total destruction, Ukrainians are dying in large numbers, who's winning? Well, Ukrainian oligarchs, they're getting richer, much richer. Since January of this year, the Biden administration has sent about $8 billion just in so-called security assistance alone to Ukraine. That would include missile systems, howitzers, ammunition, radar systems, etc., etc.

AVERAGE AMERICAN WORKER HAS LOST $3,400 IN ANNUAL WAGES UNDER BIDEN THANKS TO INFLATION

Now, defense contractors are making a ton from this, and that's why they have lobbied for it so hard, but you have to ask, once we send these weapons to Ukraine, where do they go then? What happens to them? These are sophisticated and deadly weapons systems. Well, no one knows where they go. No one's keeping track. U.S. officials, Biden administration officials have admitted that to The Wall Street Journal and we're quoting: "Once U.S. equipment material is handed to the Ukrainian government U.S. officials said they have little direct knowledge of where that material goes. They rely instead on the Ukrainian government for such information. The administration has not agreed to allow American military troops to conduct some oversight into that country."

Huh?

So, you send billions to Ukraine in the middle of a war, and then you don't bother to find out what happens to it? What will happen to these weapons? Well, the Czech defense minister knows he has said these weapons, some of them will be smuggled out of Ukraine, "It's hard to avoid trafficking or smuggling. We didn't achieve it in the former Yugoslavia and we probably won't avoid it in Ukraine."

This is lunacy. If you wanted to make Eastern Europe dangerous and unstable for generations, ensure that war continues and many more die, this is exactly what you would do. You would treat Ukraine like we treated Afghanistan, but that's just the beginning of the money we're sending. On top of all of this security assistance, now, the head of USAID, that would be Samantha Power – she's never left, she's still here, amazingly, after wrecking the world – she's announced we're sending $4 billion more to Ukraine to pay off that country's budget deficit. Wouldn't that be nice if Samantha Power decided to pay off our budget deficit, if anyone decided to help us? But no, no one would ever do that.
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea
It is frightening how inflation just continues to spiral higher and higher. I see the corporate Democrat media is out once again saying inflation is peaking. The worst is behind us. With the Democrats big spending ways and anti fossil fuel policies i don't believe that. Inflation sadly is here to stay for awhile and that is going to cause a lot of pain and suffering for the middle and lower class Americans.

As I saw ~

"Another Month Of Historic Inflation Means It’s Time To Stop Believing ‘Experts’ Who Say The Economy Is Fine"

https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/13...onomy-is-fine/
Inflation doesn't ever go away on its own.

If you know something is going to be more expensive next month, you go and buy it now, right? And what does that do?

It drives demand up. When demand outstrips supply, prices go up.

Inflation begets more inflation.
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"The most important thing to remember is that inflation is not an act of God, that inflation is not a catastrophe of the elements or a disease that comes like the plague. Inflation is a policy."

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[QUOTE=gachase21 post_id=1664378103]Producers price index rise more than expected

[URL=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-14/us-producer-prices-rise-more-than-forecast-in-broad-advance]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-broad-advance[/URL]

[url]https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ppi.pdf[rl][/QUOTE][img]https://im2.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-2-1adb1e8468.gif[/img]
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Originally Posted By TheFornicator1
Gee, never saw this coming.
Who could have imagined, months ago while people were paying millions of dollars for digital pictures of cartoon apes, that there was too much money in the system.
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This guy….














If CNN can just keep saying January 6 loud enough, maybe people will forget there is inflation.
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