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post 1669047033 10-06-2022, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
There’s a tremendous difference between the ceremonial practices as a part of those people’s pagan religions versus people who are Christian who engaged in barbaric behavior.

You can see that difference right?
eh, not really. I have no dog in this fight, I think its crazy to flog or kill anyone (Salem Witch Trials) for the sake of religion.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
eh, not really. I have no dog in this fight, I think its crazy to flog or kill anyone (Salem Witch Trials) for the sake of religion.
Well if you can’t differentiate between ceremonial practices as part of one’s actual religion, and one who commits barbaric behavior contrary to the beliefs of a religion, then I don’t know what to tell you.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
All I ever see that clown do is try to troll and hijack religious threads. Does he even post in other threads? Can't remember ever seeing a post of value from that ****g0t.
Odd, looks like the misc disagrees with you since my rep/post ratio is higher than both yours and the rando you're quoting. And that's with me taking contra-stances on most topics considering the misc is generally religious etc....put that in perspective, smh.

Hmm...posts of value...let's see, regular contributor to the math thread where people needed help with problems, pm'ing advice on undergrad paths in math and science etc. I imagine my posts were of help and value to the people asking for help. Critiquing the babble- and it often is sheer babble- in many of these religious threads, pointing out where people are wrong on matters of basic science etc. Facts trigger people though.

'Cant remember ever seeing a post of value from Barteh'....see how easy that is?

What are the grand, illustrious, insightful posts of Barteh? Trying to remember them. Oh that's right, actual trash tier posts arguing basic facts like we didnt go to the moon, because he's jealous of the USA's accomplishments. Someone wrong on some of the most basic facts possible. Congrats, your post hit a new level of irony for the misc.
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I think those of the world are secretly jealous We have Faith, Hope, and Love.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
I think those of the world are secretly jealous We have Faith, Hope, and Love.
Those of the world? The number of Islam practitioners is almost 2 billion people. That is pretty close to the amount of Christianity practitioners. Do they have Faith, Hope, and Love, or nah, only Christians do?
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Those of the world? The number of Islam practitioners is almost 2 billion people. That is pretty close to the amount of Christianity practitioners. Do they have Faith, Hope, and Love, or nah, only Christians do?
Of course they do. Our Brothers in Islam carry the same Faith that we do, why do you infer that we ought be divided and pitted against one another? I hope the rest of your day is better than the Morn, truly
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
For a long time I've been anti-religion. I've long seen religion to be a system of brainwashing to keep people in line.

My perspective has now changed, at least when it comes to christianity. There are so many people these days seem like completely evil assh*les with zero moral compass. Left to their own devices, many people seem to ultimately start doing evil chit.

At this point I think people still do need christianity because the average person doesn't seem capable of being good without being guilted/scared into it.

That being said I still think islam is an evil blight upon this world.
Are you now a practicing Christian?
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
Of course they do. Our Brothers in Islam carry the same Faith that we do, why do you infer that we ought be divided and pitted against one another? I hope the rest of your day is better than the Morn, truly
Ah, so your brothers in Islam carry the same faith in Christ as you do?

Where did you infer that I'm pitting anyone against anyone else? Your gaslighting skills are on level 0/10.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
"I guess we had better prepare for the second coming of the messiah a.s.a.p.
It will surely happen any time now."
Some Jew guy, 69 AD.

"Any time now. I can feel it in my bones. I just KNOW the end times will be soon, if not RIGHT NOW!!Iwill witness THE END TIMES"!!"
Some Xstain guy, 100 AD.

"Any time now. I can feel it in my bones. I just KNOW the end times will be soon, if not RIGHT NOW!!Iwill witness THE END TIMES"!!"
Some Xstain guy, 120 AD.

"Any time now. I can feel it in my bones. I just KNOW the end times will be soon, if not RIGHT NOW!!Iwill witness THE END TIMES"!!"
Some Xstain guy, 124 AD.

etc.



etc.


etc.

etc. etc. etc. and so on and so forth...

until:

"Any time now. I can feel it in my bones. I just KNOW the end times will be soon, if not RIGHT NOW!!Iwill witness THE END TIMES"!!"
Some Xstain guy, 2020 AD.

AND THEN:


Surely you're right, when literally hundred of millions were wrong before you, because YOU don't have the hubris to think you know better than them, you actually DO know better than them, because you're so ****ing smart. They didn't have google back then, after all.
Thanks for literally play your part in proving my point.



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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Those of the world? The number of Islam practitioners is almost 2 billion people. That is pretty close to the amount of Christianity practitioners. Do they have Faith, Hope, and Love, or nah, only Christians do?
Please share how the message of islam is one of Hope Faith and Love
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
No, but I would rather the average person in America be a devout, practicing christian than not.

The average person is an impressionable moron.
The average person will be an impressionable moron with or without religion. In fact, being an impressionable moron is a great advantage (for pastors, priests) when following a religion.

If the average person in America were a devout Christian, then my guess is man's tendencies that you spoke of earlier would be directed toward you for not being a devout Christian.

To me, it all comes down to parenting. Neglected kids with shiitty role models in the home grow up to be pieces of shiit, and the amount of shiitty people becoming parents grows exponentially each year.
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z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Ah, so your brothers in Islam carry the same faith in Christ as you do?

Where did you infer that I'm pitting anyone against anyone else? Your gaslighting skills are on level 0/10.
I'm not gaslighting anyone, I can see right through you Brother, as do most of the posters here. I am calling you as you are. None of your posts are genuine except the ones that condemn your fellow Man.

Our Brothers in Islam faith to their God is the same as ours is to the Godhead that manifested Himself within Christ. You think you're cunning and clever, with your little tricks but one day Karma is going to come down upon you Brother. I pray you might find Peace before that day comes. You got a lot of layers to peel back before you get to the Goodness in your heart, and I know it's there Brother. God bless YOU, z4
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Please share how the message of islam is one of Hope Faith and Love
Do you not know what a ? indicates? I was asking you a question. People ask those when they want someone to clarify their position on something or when requesting more information. Take it up with your boy mike because he's the one who asserted that they do in post 71.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
I'm not gaslighting anyone, I can see right through you Brother, as do most of the posters here. I am calling you as you are. None of your posts are genuine except the ones that condemn your fellow Man.

Our Brothers in Islam faith to their God is the same as ours is to the Godhead that manifested Himself within Christ. You think you're cunning and clever, with your little tricks but one day Karma is going to come down upon you Brother. I pray you might find Peace before that day comes. You got a lot of layers to peel back before you get to the Goodness in your heart, and I know it's there Brother. God bless YOU, z4
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Bringing ones wickedness/iniquities to light /=/ Judgement


I was right there in your shoes once. I leave Judgement to Him. Til next time Brother
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Do you not know what a ? indicates? I was asking you a question. People ask those when they want someone to clarify their position on something or when requesting more information. Take it up with your boy mike because he's the one who asserted that they do in post 71.
Obviously I dont believe islam shares a message of faith hope and love, and that's why I was asking you to share why you believe islam does share those messages.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Yeah but knowing what I know now about average human behavior I would just lie and pretend I was devout in order to not disturb the status quo.
I think part of effectively selling that lie would be having to go to church and maybe a Bible study here and there.
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I don't trust the average parent to know how to raise their kids effectively.
And for good reason.
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
The only thing I see that could change humanity for the better would be through ubiquitous high quality, objective education starting during their formative years but that seems impossible so the most likely alternative is religious indoctrination because stupid people are easily swayed that way.
I don't know, but something needs to change.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
Bringing ones wickedness/iniquities to light /=/ Judgement


I was right there in your shoes once. I leave Judgement to Him. Til next time Brother
Calling people wicked, immoral, saying they don't have peace, etc., is judging. It doesn't matter that you've convinced yourself that it isn't judging in order to make yourself feel comfortable while doing it.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Obviously I dont believe islam shares a message of faith hope and love, and that's why I was asking you to share why you believe islam does share those messages.
Do you think Islamic practitioners have faith, hope, and love in Islam? Note that this is different than a message of faith, hope, and love.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Yep I was an agnostic prior to covid and as soon as the fear mongering started with increasing lawlessness, something clicked and the Holy Spirit changed me for the better. I’m a new person now with completely different values, identity, and perspective. Nothing better than this, very thankful God chose me to be his child.


I pray that more will come to know the truth.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
Do you think Islamic practitioners have faith, hope, and love in Islam? Note that this is different than a message of faith, hope, and love.
I really dont know, that's why I am asking you. I never had someone who is Muslim share their faith with me.
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OP, how retarded will the world have to become before you achieve full faith in Christ?
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩
Thanks for literally play your part in proving my point.



Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”


2 Peter 3:3-4
And no doubt many of those past 'we are in end times' people referenced this very verse just the same, and the world continues to turn (literally). As it will now. Many of those people making the same proclamations you are now were objectively wrong. We can look back at say, ~1500 CE, 2012 CE, or whatever, and realize the world did not end. They were wrong. Words in a text are, after all.....words in a text. Anything can be written in a text.
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Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
OP, how retarded will the world have to become before you achieve full faith in Christ?
SMH.
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When I think about religion and morality I often am reminded of the tale of Heracles at the crossroads from ancient greece. This is long before Christianity and is still the same foundation of living a life of virtue as is taught by basically every religion in the world.

The moral of the story is theres a easy way in life, and a hard way, and each man must choose how they live their life for themselves and others. We have an epidemic of vice in the world today.

TLDR:

The Choice of Hercules
From the Memorabilia
By Xenophon, c. 371 B.C.

When Hercules was in that part of his youth in which it was natural for him to consider what course of life he ought to pursue, he one day retired into a desert, where the silence and solitude of the place very much favored his meditations.

As he was musing on his present condition, and very much perplexed in himself, on the state of life he should choose, he saw two women of a larger stature than ordinary, approaching towards him. One of them had a very noble air, and graceful deportment; her beauty was natural and easy, her person clean and unspotted, her motions and behavior full of modesty, and her raiment was white as snow. The other wanted all the native beauty and proportion of the former; her person was swelled, by luxury and ease, to a size quite disproportioned and uncomely. She had painted her complexion, that it might seem fairer and more ruddy than it really was, and endeavored to appear more graceful than ordinary in her bearing, by a mixture of affectation in all her gestures. She cast her eyes frequently upon herself, then turned them on those that were present, to see whether any one regarded her, and now and then looked on the figure she made in her own shadow.

As they drew nearer, the former continued the same composed pace, while the latter, striving to get before her, ran up to Hercules, and addressed herself to him:

“My dear Hercules,” says she, “I find you are very much divided in your thoughts, upon the way of life that you ought to choose; be my friend, and follow me; I will lead you into the possession of pleasure, and out of the reach of pain, and remove you from all the noise and disquietude of business. The affairs of either peace or war, shall have no power to disturb you. Your whole employment shall be to make your life easy, and to entertain every sense with its proper gratifications. Sumptuous tables, beds of roses, clouds of perfumes, concerts of music, crowds of beauties, are all in readiness to receive you. Come along with me into this region of delights, this world of pleasure, and bid farewell forever, to care, to pain, to business.”

Hercules, hearing the lady talk after this manner, desired to know her name; to which she answered, “My friends, and those who are well acquainted with me, call me Happiness; but my enemies, and those who would injure my reputation, have given me the name of Pleasure.”

By this time the other lady came up, who addressed herself to the young hero in a very different manner.

“Hercules,” says she, “I offer myself to you, because I know you are descended from the gods, and give proofs of that descent by your love to virtue, and application to the studies proper for your age. This makes me hope you will gain, both for yourself and me, an immortal reputation. But, before I invite you into my society and friendship, I will be open and sincere with you, and must lay down this, as an established truth, that there is nothing truly valuable which can be purchased without pains and labor. The gods have set a price upon every real and noble pleasure. If you would gain the favor of the Deity, you must be at the pains of worshiping him: if the friendship of good men, you must study to oblige them: if you would be honored by your country, you must take care to serve it. In short, if you would be eminent in war or peace, you must become master of all the qualifications that can make you so. These are the only terms and conditions upon which I can propose happiness.”

The goddess of Pleasure here broke in upon her discourse: “You see,” said she, “Hercules, by her own confession, the way to her pleasures is long and difficult; whereas, that which I propose is short and easy.” “Alas!” said the other lady, whose visage glowed with passion, made up of scorn and pity, “what are the pleasures you propose? To eat before you are hungry, drink before you are athirst, sleep before you are tired; to gratify your appetites before they are raised. You never heard the most delicious music, which is the praise of one’s own self; nor saw the most beautiful object, which is the work of one’s own hands. Your votaries pass away their youth in a dream of mistaken pleasures, while they are hoarding up anguish, torment, and remorse, for old age.”

“As for me, I am the friend of gods and of good men, an agreeable companion to the artisan, a household guardian to the fathers of families, a patron and protector of servants, an associate in all true and generous friendships. The banquets of my votaries are never costly, but always delicious; for none eat and drink at them, who are not invited by hunger and thirst. Their slumbers are sound, and their wakings cheerful. My young men have the pleasure of hearing themselves praised by those who are in years; and those who are in years, of being honored by those who are young. In a word, my followers are favored by the gods, beloved by their acquaintance, esteemed by their country, and after the close of their labors, honored by posterity.”
For every man, there is a sentence, a string of words, that has the power to destroy him
"The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must" -Thucydides
Shall not be Infringed. FUK CHINA.
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