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post 1675821843 01-25-2023, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
No, they're not fine. They're no better than my nose is designed because glasses fit.
Yeah I mean the model has to also fit experimental data.
post 1675821903 01-25-2023, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
Two of the three people being interviewed in the OP are Jewish. One is an atheist and the other is agnostic. You have no idea what you are talking about, watch the video first.
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
They are raising some doubts and questioning certain aspects. It is very interesting. I stress--watch it and think about what they are raising, hence the title "Mathematical challenges..."
Fuking lol. Just realised one of the guys in the vid is Meyer, the guy who states in his book that he is starting from the assumption that god exists and trying to retcon ID into biology to fit his preconceived conclusion.

Meyer's basic argument is that the probability of any functional protein being assembled in the perfect order that it is is incredibly low, thus natural selection is improbable and intelligent design must be the answer.

He of course expects his viewers to be idiots who aren't going to look any of this up, so he thinks this is a powerful argument - but in reality protein sequences can vary a huge amount while still performing the exact same or very similar function.

Most importantly producing functional proteins out of randomness has been demonstrated, experimentally, numerous times:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11287961/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-15635-8

https://www.nature.com/articles/35070613

Which refutes his entire premise - of course this is why he has never published anything in a related academic journal and resorts to doing interviews for political thinktanks and evangelicals.

Would never waste a second reading his book about the Cambrian explosion, but highly qualified biologists have taken every claim in it apart which is much more than anyone here can do:

https://discourse.peacefulscience.or...-doubt/2821/27

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2013...opeless-2.html

Of course an academic fraud like OP would be bowled over by something like this.
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post 1675822153 01-25-2023, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
Fuking lol. Just realised one of the guys in the vid is Meyer, the guy who states in his book that he is starting from the assumption that god exists and trying to retcon ID into biology to fit his preconceived conclusion.

Meyer's basic argument is that the probability of any functional protein being assembled in the perfect order that it is is incredibly low, thus natural selection is improbable and intelligent design must be the answer.

He of course expects his viewers to be idiots who aren't going to look any of this up, so he thinks this is a powerful argument - but in reality protein sequences can vary a huge amount while still performing the exact same or very similar function.

Most importantly producing functional proteins out of randomness has been demonstrated, experimentally, numerous times:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11287961/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-15635-8

https://www.nature.com/articles/35070613

Which refutes his entire premise - of course this is why he has never published anything in a related academic journal and resorts to doing interviews for political thinktanks and evangelicals.

Would never waste a second reading his book about the Cambrian explosion, but highly qualified biologists have taken every claim in it apart which is much more than anyone here can do:

https://discourse.peacefulscience.or...-doubt/2821/27

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2013...opeless-2.html

Of course an academic fraud like OP would be bowled over by something like this.
^ding ding ding

That's why I say wait for the publication.

Spoiler!
There will never be one lmao.
post 1675822223 01-25-2023, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
Fuking lol. Just realised one of the guys in the vid is Meyer, the guy who states in his book that he is starting from the assumption that god exists and trying to retcon ID into biology to fit his preconceived conclusion.

Meyer's basic argument is that the probability of any functional protein being assembled in the perfect order that it is is incredibly low, thus natural selection is improbable and intelligent design must be the answer.

He of course expects his viewers to be idiots who aren't going to look any of this up, so he thinks this is a powerful argument - but in reality protein sequences can vary a huge amount while still performing the exact same or very similar function.

Most importantly producing functional proteins out of randomness has been demonstrated, experimentally, numerous times:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11287961/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-15635-8

https://www.nature.com/articles/35070613

Which refutes his entire premise - of course this is why he has never published anything in a related academic journal and resorts to doing interviews for political thinktanks and evangelicals.

Would never waste a second reading his book about the Cambrian explosion, but highly qualified biologists have taken every claim in it apart which is much more than anyone here can do:

https://discourse.peacefulscience.or...-doubt/2821/27

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2013...opeless-2.html

Of course an academic fraud like OP would be bowled over by something like this.
The angry fraud reappears. He still has not watched the video or read the essay. The other two are an atheist and an agnostic. The interview was the three discussing mathematical challenges to the standard evolution theory. Put at least a little bit of effort into it. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
post 1675822363 01-25-2023, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
The angry fraud reappears. He still has not watched the video or read the essay. The other two are an atheist and an agnostic. The interview was the three discussing mathematical challenges to the standard evolution theory. Put at least a little bit of effort into it. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
lol strong ignoring the counterarguments
post 1675822373 01-25-2023, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By MichaelMcFail
^ding ding ding

That's why I say wait for the publication.

Spoiler!
There will never be one lmao.
You have never read a publication in your life. You have never read a book in your life. You have never watched a youtube video longer than five minutes. Stop embarrassing yourself.
post 1675822453 01-25-2023, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
You have never read a publication in your life. You have never read a book in your life. You have never watched a youtube video longer than five minutes. Stop embarrassing yourself.
I've actually written several publications champ. And I've read thousands of books. And I routinely watch youtube videos longer than 5 mins. Wrong on all counts.
post 1675822553 01-25-2023, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By MichaelMcFail
lol strong ignoring the counterarguments
Neither of you have watched the video. You are both very stupid, and absolute failures in life. Both of you have never read an article in your life. Isingfraud just looked up Meyer and found other peoples articles that link to those articles he linked. He is, as always, a fraud and an idiot. That is why he focused on just Meyer.
post 1675822623 01-25-2023, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By MichaelMcFail
I've actually written several publications champ. And I've read thousands of books. And I routinely watch youtube videos longer than 5 mins. Wrong on all counts.
lololol fantasyland wincel, is not real, it is a fantasy. Got it champ? You and Ising are quite literally two of the stupidest miscers. Sad lol
post 1675822653 01-25-2023, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
Neither of you have watched the video. You are both very stupid, and absolute failures in life. Both of you have never read an article in your life. Isingfraud just looked up Meyer and found other peoples articles that link to those articles he linked. He is, as always, a fraud and an idiot. That is why he focused on just Meyer.
Yep we are part of the globohomo conspiracy to suppress these fine intellectuals.

No publication, no care.
post 1675822763 01-25-2023, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
lololol fantasyland wincel, is not real, it is a fantasy. Got it champ? You and Ising are quite literally two of the stupidest miscers. Sad lol
Well gl with your theory brah. Hope it catches on.
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Originally Posted By MichaelMcFail
Yep we are part of the globohomo conspiracy to suppress these fine intellectuals.

No publication, no care.
You are so pathetic wincel. Your poor parents, both of you, as you are nothing more than parasites that fraud for a few dozen people online. Stop with your idiocy and go get a job and at least start helping out with the bills wincel and ising. Two idiots that keep making fools of themselves.
post 1675823143 01-25-2023, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
You are so pathetic wincel. Your poor parents, both of you, as you are nothing more than parasites that fraud for a few dozen people online. Stop with your idiocy and go get a job and at least start helping out with the bills wincel and ising. Two idiots that keep making fools of themselves.
lolol
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Existence comes first, math must come second when trying to explain / approximate it.

I'm not sure how you would begin to challenge a broad theory like evolution, purely with maths?

It wasn't based on math in the first place, was it? Observation of differences in species, fossil records, rapid changes when species selectively bred, etc.

I guess you could focus on some extremely small, observable part, of species change to prove / disprove the principle of evolution, and mathematically model it? Dunno..
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Originally Posted By Channel83
Existence comes first, math must come second when trying to explain / approximate it.

I'm not sure how you would begin to challenge a broad theory like evolution, purely with maths?

It wasn't based on math in the first place, was it? Observation of differences in species, fossil records, rapid changes when species selectively bred, etc.

I guess you could focus on some extremely small, observable part, of species change to prove / disprove the principle of evolution, and mathematically model it? Dunno..
Correct. You'd need to produce some competing theory with a rational/mathematical explanation that reproduces all observed data to date.
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Originally Posted By MichaelMcFail
Correct. You'd need to produce some competing theory with a rational/mathematical explanation that reproduces all observed data to date.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
"I have a mathematical challenge to Darwin's evolution"

Ok, what is it?

"Muh sky wizard made things. It's math."

LOL, OK.
You realize you're a hairless monkey on a spec of dust flying in a seemingly infinite void?

Oh but you have the answers to the most ancient of questions.

lol the gall.
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