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post 1679126063 03-17-2023, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
You really think that unemployed schizo retard is capable of comprehending anything but sensationalized infographics from obscure twitter pages?

People like her are too far gone, and will only consume info that reinforces their beliefs

Her source that she claims to be a study is literally called “Igor’s Newsletter”
Shirley the massive, coordinated exaggeration of a virus that posed little threat to non-elderly healthy people and helped establish an environment to conduct the largest transfer of wealth in human history is nothing to be suspicious of.

Shirley the drug companies who had never managed to successfully create a safe and effective mRNA vaccine after decades of trying suddenly created on in a few months when there was billions of dollars to make and governments promised they could’nt be held responsible for damages.

Shirley the drug companies didn’t manipulate numbers like they’ve done countless times before in order to prioritize profit over human health.

Shirley all of the things they claimed about the injections that were later proven to be completely false were just honest mistakes and not parroted as a narrative to promote the injections.

Shirley we shouldn’t be concerned about the fact that there are no long term studies on the effects of these injections.

Shirley the fact that they don’t do much of anything with regards to preventing infection or spread should just be ignored.




Shirley you realize that the pharmaceutical companies pocketed record profits while pushing an injection that is borderline useless, and is known to be harmful in many cases.
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Originally Posted By Woody-5⏩
Kinda like how if you died in a car crash in 2020, it was a COVID death
Let me ask a srs question

Are you getting pharma or UG?
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trust the science breh
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
You really think that unemployed schizo retard is capable of comprehending anything but sensationalized infographics from obscure twitter pages?

People like her are too far gone, and will only consume info that reinforces their beliefs

Her source that she claims to be a study is literally called “Igor’s Newsletter”
Dont get me wrong, I never think it is black or white, given what studies like this find that concern me a lot -https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...AHA.122.059970

However, she always re-iterates the same twitter sources without any criticism behind those analyses. And when I put some counter arguments just to consider for 5 seconds she is like "bullied into narrative".
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post 1679128863 03-17-2023, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
get it through your thick heads, contracting covid when unvaccinated is worse for your heart than the jab.

idiots.
i wont be taking the injection, infact, ive faked the card that says I have, u mad?
post 1679128963 03-17-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Why would you expect the same pattern? In a singleton simplified example Jane missing her annual breast examination puts her at a much worse progression and total different course and clinical outcome compared to what most Janes experience in a normal time.


Have you at least tried to see any counter arguments for your claims? Just about any?


Half hour of my life I can never get back. But I'm aware of medcram and I've watched some of their videos before.

Cancer from the video:

- new diagnoses dropped by half for breast, lung, colorectal, pancreatic, gastric and eoso****eal cancer in a 50 day period of 2020 [march/april]

- screening levels didn't rebound post shut down

- lowered dx of these cancers through march 2021

- 3.2% increase in cancer deaths in 2020, cancer death above normal peaked during toughest lockdowns

- UK less dx and less chemo

^^^
Took about 13 minutes to cover that.And none of that adequately accounts for this:





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While some cancer massively increased colon cancer and lung cancer decreased. How would reduced screening account for that? Fewer mammograms = more breast cancer, but fewer colonoscopies = less colon cancer?


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post 1679129723 03-17-2023, 01:48 PM
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After talking about cancer he kind of just meanders IMO.

He talks about northern hemisphere and more deaths as days are shorter/end of year, contrasts with southern hemisphere w/decrease in mortality. Tries to imply that lower excess death in the southern hemisphere are due to a different seasonal solar pattern and leaves out that many [most?] countries in the southern hemisphere either didn't get the mrna shots at all, or had much less of their population injected because they simply didn't have the money to purchase them.

Then he brings up an increased rate of cardiovascular disease for a year [IIRC] post covid infection, however he doesn't say anything about the study *excluding vaccinated subjects* so I don't see how we can infer if the increased rate of cardiovascular disease is due to the virus or due to the shot or if the increased risk extends beyond one year.

Last up he spends maybe 3 minutes on the possibility that the excess mortality is due to the shots and he discounts it based on a lack of obvious immediate correlation between the shots and higher excess mortality.

TES has observed a 6 months lag time in the VAERS data which he has notated in his charts.



If you really want to do some more digging yourself check out Ed Dowd:



Link:


He has Wall Street math wizard quants working over this data about vaccine damage. Wrote a book. Has done multiple interviews.

Here is one:

https://rumble.com/v2ailv0-tucker-ca...w-ed-dowd.html

I'm not running away or avoiding discussion, but it's a lot of free labor for no real benefit on my part.
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post 1679135703 03-17-2023, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
He has Wall Street math wizard quants working over this data about vaccine damage. Wrote a book. Has done multiple interviews.

I'm not running away or avoiding discussion, but it's a lot of free labor for no real benefit on my part.
I appreciate it and I read everything.

Have you seen this [do it on 1.75x speed], they talk about Dowd's analysis

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Where my steron brahs at on this matter? Cuz it’d be wild if any steron brahs are out here antivaxxin
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In after vaxxcuck COPE

Go get boosted fegits
post 1679136583 03-17-2023, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Where my steron brahs at on this matter? Cuz it’d be wild if any steron brahs are out here antivaxxin
that being said tho, I do not think this is a good argument because both things are independent events

additionally, you could argue that a person buying celltech from dodgy supply chains is silly on its own
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Where my steron brahs at on this matter? Cuz it’d be wild if any steron brahs are out here antivaxxin
So much potato in this logic.


For one, just because you do one unhealthy thing that doesn’t make it logical for you to do every unhealthy thing.

Secondly, we have decades and decades of data on the effects of various compounds. We have a much better understanding of the risks/rewards, dosages, what to look out for, and tons of other things than we do with the injection.

Finally, the benefits of the injection were DRASTICALLY overstated. All you got was an increased risk of unwanted side effects from the injection, a month of being MORE at risk of contracting Covid, a few months of being slightly less at risk of contracting Covid, and an opportunity to virtue signal.
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A very good question, you need to think about it.
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Obviously he died from anxiety caused by people telling the truth.
"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."

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Originally Posted By SwagMorris⏩
So heart attacks in young people increased by 2% a year on average (no way that’s link to obesity and increasingly sedentary lifestyles) butspiked 30% in young people within the last year.

No correlation at all.
I find myself asking the same question over and over...Do you have any proof for that claim?. We know heart attacks spiked in 2020, obviously due to Covid and not to vaccines that didn't exist yet. Where are your statistics that vaccinated people, with no prior Covid infection, "spiked 30% within the past year"?

"https://www.heart.org/en/news/2023/0...id-19-pandemic"
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2023/0...id-19-pandemic
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
I find myself asking the same question over and over...Do you have any proof for that claim?. We know heart attacks spiked in 2020, obviously due to Covid and not to vaccines that didn't exist yet. Where are your statistics that vaccinated people, with no prior Covid infection, "spiked 30% within the past year"?

"https://www.heart.org/en/news/2023/0...id-19-pandemic"
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2023/0...id-19-pandemic
Why are you bothering to argue with uneducated anti-vaxxers who think anyone who can create a youtube video is automatically some expert? These people are legit dumb AF.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
I find myself asking the same question over and over...Do you have any proof for that claim?. We know heart attacks spiked in 2020, obviously due to Covid and not to vaccines that didn't exist yet. Where are your statistics that vaccinated people, with no prior Covid infection, "spiked 30% within the past year"?

"https://www.heart.org/en/news/2023/0...id-19-pandemic"
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2023/0...id-19-pandemic
Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Why are you bothering to argue with uneducated anti-vaxxers who think anyone who can create a youtube video is automatically some expert? These people are legit dumb AF.
I think the correlative statistics re: youth health problems and excess problems is very misleading and flawed, not even remotely enough to point a problem with vaccines.

However, guys, equally, I do not think it is good and rational to have it black or white either.

I am basing this off this* mega study in a peer-reviewed, respected journal, cofounding for age/gender, carried out by respected biomedical/public health science departments.

It found that for young males under 40 the risk of myo from the 2nd dose of any vaccine was higher than a covid infection. For every other scenario covid infection was worse.

And what slightly pissed me off is that a reputable source, like heart.org, when reporting this exact study** with a title "COVID-19 infection poses higher risk for myocarditis than vaccines" mentioning the case for <40 men only at the bottom. This is kind of the same as an antivax twisting inferences in titles (not claiming heart.org was purposefully misleading though).

And it is not even insignificant - most countries' populations are somewhat equally split old vs young at the 40yo mark combined with 2 biological genders that means 25% of any country's population is <40 men.


*https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...AHA.122.059970

**https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/0...-than-vaccines


This study proves jack**** either way definitely, just like most things, but just not sure if it is rational to pretend it is black or white. Wouldn't you agree?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
get it through your thick heads, contracting covid when unvaccinated is worse for your heart than the jab.

idiots.
Unvaccinated and had Covid twice, how am I still alive?
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
I think the correlative statistics re: youth health problems and excess problems is very misleading and flawed, not even remotely enough to point a problem with vaccines.

However, guys, equally, I do not think it is good and rational to have it black or white either.

I am basing this off this* mega study in a peer-reviewed, respected journal, cofounding for age/gender, carried out by respected biomedical/public health science departments.

It found that for young males under 40 the risk of myo from the 2nd dose of any vaccine was higher than a covid infection. For every other scenario covid infection was worse.

And what slightly pissed me off is that a reputable source, like heart.org, when reporting this exact study** with a title "COVID-19 infection poses higher risk for myocarditis than vaccines" mentioning the case for <40 men only at the bottom. This is kind of the same as an antivax twisting inferences in titles (not claiming heart.org was purposefully misleading though).

And it is not even insignificant - most countries' populations are somewhat equally split old vs young at the 40yo mark combined with 2 biological genders that means 25% of any country's population is <40 men.


*https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...AHA.122.059970

**https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/0...-than-vaccines


This study proves jack**** either way definitely, just like most things, but just not sure if it is rational to pretend it is black or white. Wouldn't you agree?
I'm just sick of the retards blaming the jab every time someone younger than 80 dies. Don't want the jab, that's fine. But no need to constantly prove how ignorant you are by acting like the jab is killing people bigly. It's beyond stupid.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Dont get me wrong, I never think it is black or white, given what studies like this find that concern me a lot -https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...AHA.122.059970

However, she always re-iterates the same twitter sources without any criticism behind those analyses. And when I put some counter arguments just to consider for 5 seconds she is like "bullied into narrative".
So billions who have gotten covid are ****ed for years?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Unvaccinated and had Covid twice, how am I still alive?
My grandfather smoked for 50 years and he died at 98 way above the average.

Ergo, smoking increases lifespan. Start it asap.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
I'm just sick of the retards blaming the jab every time someone younger than 80 dies. Don't want the jab, that's fine. But no need to constantly prove how ignorant you are by acting like the jab is killing people bigly. It's beyond stupid.
Agreed. Can't infer **** from data like that.


Thoughts on what I laid out though? Just curious - I didn't see any commentary of the researchers in this study discussing how the men <40yo findings shouldn't matter.

I wonder if they just happened to find it in this dataset.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
I'm just sick of the retards blaming the jab every time someone younger than 80 dies. Don't want the jab, that's fine. But no need to constantly prove how ignorant you are by acting like the jab is killing people bigly. It's beyond stupid.
It's normal for teens in high school to have heart attacks and die......
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
My grandfather smoked for 50 years and he died at 98 way above the average.

Ergo, smoking increases lifespan. Start it asap.
Your grandfather probably had the "*******" gene, that allowed him to smoke, drink, eat like ****, and live a long life.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Why are you bothering to argue with uneducated anti-vaxxers who think anyone who can create a youtube video is automatically some expert? These people are legit dumb AF.
How many jabs you gonna get this year?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
It's normal for teens in high school to have heart attacks and die......
lol, you're so dumb as to be not worth arguing with. So are you saying that no teens died from heart attacks before the vaccines? Or are you saying that way more are dying now due to the vaccines?

Got a link for any study showing a significant increase in teen heart attacks boyo or are you just spouting bullchit as normal?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
How many jabs you gonna get this year?
Why do you care? Maybe one maybe none. You're still a failure at life. Maybe the jab would help you with that?
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Got a link for any study showing a significant increase in teen heart attacks boyo or are you just spouting bullchit as normal?
Ignore him, but interested in thoughts on what I laid out... Not a youth heart attack study directly but inflammation of the heart benchmarked across vaccines and infection.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Ignore him, but interested in thoughts on what I laid out... Not a youth heart attack study directly but inflammation of the heart benchmarked across vaccines and infection.
I'm not an expert on the subject but the studies seem pretty clear that vaccines reduced the risk of heart issues. Even the under 40 men group that didn't see a reduction showed essentially an unchanged risk.

But anti-vaxxers gonna anti-vaxx.
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