Vaccines were never needed for polio.

"They" ain't removed ****.

I still always document, when applicable, that my patients' "immunizations are up to date" in my routine health maintenance visit notes.

I state this for pediatric patients also, regardless of Covid vaccination status.

the word immunity was removed from the definition of vaccine

vaccines would provide immunity

until this so-called covid "vaccine" was "invented"


since you still get and transmit covid after taking 1 or multiple injections the definition had to be changed from giving immunity to stimulating a bodys immune response

in otherwords, it doesnt provide you with immunity, like other previous proven vaccines


do you need this dumbed down further?

lol whatever. Just telling you what happens on the ground, between patient and physician.

Don't let the politics go to your head.

Most list percentages of 90% or higher, especially the older ones with years of documentation.
So as Bill Clinton used to say, it depends on the meaning of..... "immunity".
100%/90%/80%?

I think it's important to distinguish between vaccine effectiveness and (acquired) immunity.

Acquired immunity is the development of antibodies and t-cells in response to an antigen.

Vaccines are designed to confer acquired immunity.

The Pfizer trials were powered to detect an effectiveness of 30%.

the NEW definition states “Protection” not “Immunity”

Which is a same same.

Yeah you've said that about 9 times now.

This is about how much the flu shot prevents you from getting the flu and then mistakenly spreading it to others, while pretending you aren't able to spread the virus.

post it and the link.
This could be helpful for all.

Okay.

So the updated definition isn't a gotcha?

I copied and pasted these from the CDC's website on another forum on 7/19/2021 from the link below them.


Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.



https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm



The same link has this information now..


Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.




I know Ben..you never think I keep receipts

Not sure, what is the updated definition again?

Most people dont even kno the definition was changed. They Probably think you're crazy if u told them

Or that you're ignorant.

The ignorant is the majority in 2023 in case you weren't aware. Careful of your tongue next time.

I posted the definition change up above. If you are denying it was changed then you are the only ignorant one

Maybe. Books help.

Inform the CDC of that then

I recognized that it was changed. My point is that claiming the change as a gotcha is indicative of lacking knowledge and understanding.

Glad to her you confess this. Maybe books will help next time

Christ Benny, what are you trying to prove with this post? Hell, even you won't admit you were conned into getting the jab, you got it, because you have sickly family members, meaning you got it, thinking it would prevent you from getting it.

Nobody should have suggested sterilizing immunity.

The phase 3 trials drew no such conclusion.

But, that is tangential to the definition of vaccine.

Faucci & Biden claimed if one gets vaccinated they will not catch Covid.

Those dudes definitely lied.

I don't see the problem with the original definition.

JLC says people were confused by it and assumed it meant 100% immunity for anyone who receives it.

A product that stimulates a persons immune system to produce immunity to a certain disease does not mean guaranteed immunity for everyone lol. It means the product will stimulate the immune system in an effort to produce immunity but the definition does not say that it WILL produce immunity lol. So JLC's argument is if something is too complex to understand, we should change it to something simpler and less accurate, I think he also claims to be intelligent lol.



The covid shots would not qualify as a vaccine under the previious definition because the stimulation it produces was never meant to provide immunity.

Immunity was never even on the table.

This was a treatment to fear*.



*Pun intended

The branch covidians in here defending misinformation so hard

Clue: calling the covid shot a vaccine is misinformation. It’s not a vaccine.

I got the vaxx 3x and still got Covid because a guy in my wife’s office had it but was asymptomatic. I wound up getting Remdesivir via IV for 3 days. What’s worse is that it’s been over 6 months since I had Covid yet the side effects are still with me.

Remember when they told us one of the symptoms was not having any symptoms?