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My gf only makes 80k so i wonder if i should dump her for someone like madison beer
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats
A good relationship is a good team, sounds like you date broke, low IQ women who do nothing but drag you down to their level and secretly (or not so secretly) hate any success you achieve. That's toxic, a good woman will lift you up and enjoy your success while making her own
You are missing the point. The money she makes should be irrelevant to you, whether shes broke or shes making millions, you shouldnt focus on that. A good wife is more than the money she has (or lack of).

Men dont need women to influence them to either raise their level or drop it, i dont know why you keep bringing that up, but that isnt a masculine trait. For you to find a good woman, first of all you need to drop that mentality. A masculine man with his **** together is well established emotionally and financially before even meeting his hypothetical woman. You wont be a great man making 150k a year, and just because you fall in love with the starbucks barista who is other than that an amazing woman that would be an amazing wife, you are suddenly gonna become a barista yourself. That is just retarded.

Men influence their women, not the other way around. A woman's money shouldnt be a motivator on whether or not you take her seriously, if you want to have a family and especially kids, there are dozens of other more important things to focus on rather than her money. Get your priorities straight son.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
You are missing the point. The money she makes should be irrelevant to you, whether shes broke or shes making millions, you shouldnt focus on that. A good wife is more than the money she has (or lack of).

Men dont need women to influence them to either raise their level or drop it, i dont know why you keep bringing that up, but that isnt a masculine trait. For you to find a good woman, first of all you need to drop that mentality. A masculine man with his **** together is well established emotionally and financially before even meeting his hypothetical woman. You wont be a great man making 150k a year, and just because you fall in love with the starbucks barista who is other than that an amazing woman that would be an amazing wife, you are suddenly gonna become a barista yourself. That is just retarded.

Men influence their women, not the other way around. A woman's money shouldnt be a motivator on whether or not you take her seriously,if you want to have a family and especially kids, there are dozens of other more important things to focus on rather than her money. Get your priorities straight son.
How do you influence someone you've not met yet?
Unless you're with a highschool sweetheart, she's gonna have made her own way for a couple decades at least. If she's worked trash job to trash job and just leeched off boyfriends during that time, it absolutely is a huge red flag and not wife material no matter how good she might treat you.
She doesn't need to raise your level, what I mean is she should support your success not envy it or leech off of it. But if she raises your motivation and drive, how could that ever be a bad thing? That's what a good partner does. You're basically saying her drive to succeed doesn't matter, and she must either be neutral to your success or actively tries to hinder it in order to be a good partner which is red pill retardation.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats
How do you influence someone you've not met yet?
Unless you're with a highschool sweetheart, she's gonna have made her own way for a couple decades at least. If she's worked trash job to trash job and just leeched off boyfriends during that time, it absolutely is a huge red flag and not wife material no matter how good she might treat you.
She doesn't need to raise your level, what I mean is she should support your success not envy it or leech off of it. But if she raises your motivation and drive, how could that ever be a bad thing? That's what a good partner does. You're basically saying her drive to succeed doesn't matter, and she must either be neutral to your success or actively tries to hinder it in order to be a good partner which is red pill retardation.
A woman doesnt need to be successfull herself in order to admire or appreciate your success. Maybe its the calorie deficit but im seriously not getting some of your arguments, dont make sense to me. What does her attitude towards your own success has anything to do with her own financial success?


You should already be in a great position yourself before meeting anybody, that way, you can actually choose the best option you have in order to improve the chances of a successfull marriage. IMO, the best choice is a traditional minded, young/fertile woman with homely and wifely traits. These traits clash most of the time with the traits of a career high income woman. Thats entirely my point. Both type of women have their pros and cons on their own, but when choosing a wife, the former type of woman makes much more sense than the high income modern career woman (unless, you need her money for whatever reason, which in that case, id argue you are not ready for marriage to begin with, since you are trading off good wifely traits for money).


A woman that has been working trash jobs for two decades is retarded yes, but again, you are missing the point. First of all you shouldnt be looking at settling down with any woman that is near her geriatric pregnancy years. A woman with a high income is most likely near her 30s, and puts in much more hours than the average person (obviously, since income above average often equals to effort above average). You are also delusional if you think a young woman with high income that is highly attractive is going to settle for a man making roughly the same money she is. We talk **** about women wanting high income men all the time, but men wanting high income women is 10x as worse.


The point is that her money shouldnt be a priority for you, or a huge factor. At the end of the day you are looking for a wife, and the best wife is the one that stays at home, raises her kids, takes care of the home, prepares you healthy nutritious delicious meals, is stress free so she can easily deal with the stress that comes from being a good mother and a good wife, etc. If you meet a starbucks Barista making 30k a year that is an amazing wholesome woman, but simply is too young to make high income or never had the opportunities or even desires of pursuing a high income career (because she isnt materialistic or because she would rather be a SAHW), would that not be okay with you?




Marrying a career modern woman honestly only makes sense to me if neither of you want kids, which is completely valid. IMO i want 2-4 kids, and the idea of both husband and wife working a full time high income job that requires high stress and energy input, plus raising properly that many children, just so you get an extra vacation a year or the 5 bedroom house instead of the 4 one... i dont know, sounds to me like its planning to fail. You cant have the best of both worlds, you gotta make compromises.

Id rather compromise the extra money in exchange of an stress free wife, more time with the children, home in the hands of the person that would care for it the most etc.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
If you need your woman to “lift you up” and motivate you to work hard, then don’t get married pls.



That all sounds like cope from broke/mediocre earning men that just want their woman to take weight from their shoulders financially. Good luck with that dynamic
I guess if you date instagram trash you are completely unaware that a woman's love and emotional support is often something that pushes men to higher levels
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Id rather compromise the extra money in exchange of an stress free wife, more time with the children, home in the hands of the person that would care for it the most etc.
If you want kidsanda stress-free wife, I've got some bad news.

Sorry, I know that's not what you meant I just chuckled a bit when I read it. Mothers stress over kids, but I think it's better for them than career related stress. Well, maybe.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
A woman doesnt need to be successfull herself in order to admire or appreciate your success. Maybe its the calorie deficit but im seriously not getting some of your arguments, dont make sense to me. What does her attitude towards your own success has anything to do with her own financial success?


You should already be in a great position yourself before meeting anybody, that way, you can actually choose the best option you have in order to improve the chances of a successfull marriage. IMO, the best choice is a traditional minded, young/fertile woman with homely and wifely traits. These traits clash most of the time with the traits of a career high income woman. Thats entirely my point. Both type of women have their pros and cons on their own, but when choosing a wife, the former type of woman makes much more sense than the high income modern career woman (unless, you need her money for whatever reason, which in that case, id argue you are not ready for marriage to begin with, since you are trading off good wifely traits for money).


A woman that has been working trash jobs for two decades is retarded yes, but again, you are missing the point. First of all you shouldnt be looking at settling down with any woman that is near her geriatric pregnancy years. A woman with a high income is most likely near her 30s, and puts in much more hours than the average person (obviously, since income above average often equals to effort above average). You are also delusional if you think a young woman with high income that is highly attractive is going to settle for a man making roughly the same money she is. We talk **** about women wanting high income men all the time, but men wanting high income women is 10x as worse.


The point is that her money shouldnt be a priority for you, or a huge factor. At the end of the day you are looking for a wife, and the best wife is the one that stays at home, raises her kids, takes care of the home, prepares you healthy nutritious delicious meals, is stress free so she can easily deal with the stress that comes from being a good mother and a good wife, etc. If you meet a starbucks Barista making 30k a year that is an amazing wholesome woman, but simply is too young to make high income or never had the opportunities or even desires of pursuing a high income career (because she isnt materialistic or because she would rather be a SAHW), would that not be okay with you?




Marrying a career modern woman honestly only makes sense to me if neither of you want kids, which is completely valid. IMO i want 2-4 kids, and the idea of both husband and wife working a full time high income job that requires high stress and energy input, plus raising properly that many children, just so you get an extra vacation a year or the 5 bedroom house instead of the 4 one... i dont know, sounds to me like its planning to fail. You cant have the best of both worlds, you gotta make compromises.

Id rather compromise the extra money in exchange of an stress free wife, more time with the children, home in the hands of the person that would care for it the most etc.
It sounds like you want the cliche woman from a Disney movie. 10/10 dime piece, 24 or younger, will somehow never feel down/depressed staying at home all day while you go to work, will be content being a stay at home mom cooking and cleaning while you work, and holds traditional values. That type of woman (or girl for better suited description) will take pics of her meal when you take her out on a date and post them on her IG, will play silly power games with you all the time and will leave you if you ever hit hard times.
I go for career driven women, minimal social media presence, are based mentally, actively want me to be my best self while also having her own chit going on and bringing something to the table herself. In my experience these types have always had their heads screwed on and have been the most compatible with myself. You'll endlessly chase what doesn't exist until you're 50 and wondering why you still don't have kids or anyone you'd even consider wifing.
Basically everything listed here is what I look for in a woman I want to get into a rel with

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Originally Posted By FarmersSon
If you want kidsanda stress-free wife, I've got some bad news.

Sorry, I know that's not what you meant I just chuckled a bit when I read it. Mothers stress over kids, but I think it's better for them than career related stress. Well, maybe.
lol, yeah i guess. Kids are stressful enough, which only makes my argument stronger. Imagine adding the stress from the kids and the stress from her high income job together. And people wonder why modern marriages dont work
Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi
I guess if you date instagram trash you are completely unaware that a woman's love and emotional support is often something that pushes men to higher levels
Yes, exactly, a woman's love and emotional support, not the money she makes or the job she has, which was the other guys point. Keep up with the discussion ****** Also i thought you couldnt read more than 2 lines, glad you worked that out.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats
It sounds like you want the cliche woman from a Disney movie. 10/10 dime piece, 24 or younger, will somehow never feel down/depressed staying at home all day while you go to work, will be content being a stay at home mom cooking and cleaning while you work, and holds traditional values. That type of woman (or girl for better suited description) will take pics of her meal when you take her out on a date and post them on her IG, will play silly power games with you all the time and will leave you if you ever hit hard times.
I go for career driven women, minimal social media presence, are based mentally, actively want me to be my best self while also having her own chit going on and bringing something to the table herself. In my experience these types have always had their heads screwed on and have been the most compatible with myself. You'll endlessly chase what doesn't exist until you're 50 and wondering why you still don't have kids or anyone you'd even consider wifing.
Basically everything listed here is what I look for in a woman I want to get into a rel with

And it seems to me you are just making another ridiculous fallacious argument. I never said anything about wanting a perfect 10/10 disney princess that never gets depressed and her only skill is uploading pictures to her instagram and making "power plays".

Also lol at career woman not being high into social acceptance bull**** like instagram. If anything those are the women that highly seek society's approval the most.


Listen bro, at the end of the day, you and i want something different, which is completely okay. You want the modern career woman, i want the more traditional type of woman. No need to make extreme assumptions about neither one just to strenghten our argument.

At the end of the day, IMO, its clear to me who has the better "wife" traits, and its not the career woman, for the things ive repeatedly mentioned already ITT. More stress, less time for you or her kids, needs to be submissive to another man aka her boss, most likely wont want to invest her own money at the same ratio as you will, etc. At the end of the day women are still hypergamous and still feel the inner need to be with a man that provides and protects them, that is a biologicaly programmed instinc they have, doesnt matter if they make 100k or 10k. They want to be protected and taken care of, its in their nature. Thats feminine energy.


If you prefer masculine energy, that says a lot about your own energy as well. By all means do it, lord knows there are crazier types of relationships nowadays, im just saying its a bit foolish to prefer money over other traits that only a SAHM could have, but thats just my opinion.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
About bolded...

for that to be the case, you'd be looking at women in their 40's at least.

Nothnxjeff.
Lol by that I meant she has existed for 20 years or more without your influence and found her own way in life, plenty of time to get her chit together and make something of herself Vs dossing about getting fked at uni studying an art degree just waiting for some CEO to wife her up so she can stay at home all day continuing to bring nothing to the table
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
And it seems to me you are just making another ridiculous fallacious argument. I never said anything about wanting a perfect 10/10 disney princess that never gets depressed and her only skill is uploading pictures to her instagram and making "power plays".

Also lol at career woman not being high into social acceptance bull**** like instagram. If anything those are the women that highly seek society's approval the most.


Listen bro, at the end of the day, you and i want something different, which is completely okay. You want the modern career woman, i want the more traditional type of woman. No need to make extreme assumptions about neither one just to strenghten our argument.

At the end of the day, IMO, its clear to me who has the better "wife" traits, and its not the career woman, for the things ive repeatedly mentioned already ITT. More stress, less time for you or her kids, needs to be submissive to another man aka her boss, most likely wont want to invest her own money at the same ratio as you will, etc. At the end of the day women are still hypergamous and still feel the inner need to be with a man that provides and protects them, that is a biologicaly programmed instinc they have, doesnt matter if they make 100k or 10k. They want to be protected and taken care of, its in their nature. Thats feminine energy.


If you prefer masculine energy, that says a lot about your own energy as well. By all means do it, lord knows there are crazier types of relationships nowadays, im just saying its a bit foolish to prefer money over other traits that only a SAHM could have, but thats just my opinion.
I'm not saying money is the number 1 trait, but its certainly important in a partner. Time for me and kids would be unaffected, not like I'll be spending time with her when I'm working, and we both work the same hours, then there's maternity leave, after that she would work part time. It's almost as if a woman can bring something to the table while also being protected and cared for, without giving her a free lunch. It's truly the best of both worlds. Catering to her just because she exists and has a hole between her legs is pretty beta if you ask me, but you do you
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Yes, exactly, a woman's love and emotional support, not the money she makes or the job she has, which was the other guys point. Keep up with the discussion ****** Also i thought you couldnt read more than 2 lines, glad you worked that out.
derp, only unemployed women can provide love and emotional support

all your paragraphs and you can't even understand that, glad I didn't read your bs

lol @ calling me ****** your bitch ass is on TRT in your 30s, beta cuck
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats
I'm not saying money is the number 1 trait, but its certainly important in a partner. Time for me and kids would be unaffected, not like I'll be spending time with her when I'm working, and we both work the same hours, then there's maternity leave, after that she would work part time. It's almost as if a woman can bring something to the table while also being protected and cared for, without giving her a free lunch. It's truly the best of both worlds. Catering to her just because she exists and has a hole between her legs is pretty beta if you ask me, but you do you
Its not "catering to her" just for the pussy. Again you are completely missing the point. If you feel like a beta for taking charge of your home and the financial load, or you feel "used", then theres something wrong with you my man. Lol at using the phrase "giving her a free lunch" when talking about your wife. Jesuschrist, suddenly the current state of modern women and society makes so much sence, men have a huge % of the fault too.




A woman working part time isnt high income btw, at least that would be highly unlikely. And its not about only "your time" with the kids, its about your kids having their mother with them 100% of the time when needed, as opposed to giving away that responsibility to somebody else. She isnt only giving you pussy, shes being a full time mother with no outside influences or responsibilities other than making sure the kids are raised properly, the house is perfect and her husband is perfectly taken care of. Its not just "her pussy".
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi
derp, only unemployed women can provide love and emotional support

all your paragraphs and you can't even understand that, glad I didn't read your bs

lol @ calling me ****** your bitch ass is on TRT in your 30s, beta cuck
I never said that. Again, you got lost in the discussion, re-read the thread once you are done eating your curry brah and get back to me.
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Yes definitely

I’m holding out for Chris Hemsworth myself.

Never settle misc
He’s a whole snack, but i don’t think he’s chubby enuf for u
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Its not "catering to her" just for the pussy. Again you are completely missing the point. If you feel like a beta for taking charge of your home and the financial load, or you feel "used", then theres something wrong with you my man. Lol at using the phrase "giving her a free lunch" when talking about your wife. Jesuschrist, suddenly the current state of modern women and society makes so much sence, men have a huge % of the fault too.




A woman working part time isnt high income btw, at least that would be highly unlikely. And its not about only "your time" with the kids, its about your kids having their mother with them 100% of the time when needed, as opposed to giving away that responsibility to somebody else. She isnt only giving you pussy, shes being a full time mother with no outside influences or responsibilities other than making sure the kids are raised properly, the house is perfect and her husband is perfectly taken care of. Its not just "her pussy".
Nah there's something wrong with YOU my guy. Do you even have a long term partner with the traits you're looking for or are you just talking hypothetically? Look if you want to pay for everything while she does nothing, go for it, but in no way is that an alpha male quality, it's outdated boomer ideology taught to men via Disney movies of old.
Working part time isn't high income, but the years of full time work and savings she's accumulated is. Under those circumstances, she's perfectly allowed to stop work or work part time to raise the kids, since she's doing it using our money, not just mine.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats
Nah there's something wrong with YOU my guy. Do you even have a long term partner with the traits you're looking for or are you just talking hypothetically? Look if you want to pay for everything while she does nothing,go for it, but in no way is that an alpha male quality, it's outdated boomer ideology taught to men via Disney movies of old.
Working part time isn't high income, but the years of full time work and savings she's accumulated is. Under those circumstances, she's perfectly allowed to stop work or work part time to raise the kids, since she's doing it using our money, not just mine.
This is what you dont get. She isnt doing "nothing", stay at home wives arent just lazy leeching cones sitting around, they are the base of a successful marriage, along with a strong masculine providing man.

And lol at you expecting to meet a career driven woman with a fortune saved up, and shes going to just want to share it with you and make your life easier. So you want best of both worlds then, a woman with a fat bank account, that also decides to quit everything for her wife/mom activites, and just so happens to keep investing in the house and sharing with you the financial load.

Basically you want the same traits i want, but with a fat bank account attached to them, with none of the negatives, aint that cute.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
This is what you dont get. She isnt doing "nothing", stay at home wives arent just lazy leeching cones sitting around, they are the base of a successful marriage, along with a strong masculine providing man.

And lol at you expecting to meet a career driven woman with a fortune saved up, and shes going to just want to share it with you and make your life easier. So you want best of both worlds then, a woman with a fat bank account, that also decides to quit everything for her wife/mom activites, and just so happens to keep investing in the house and sharing with you the financial load.

Basically you want the same traits i want, but with a fat bank account attached to them, with none of the negatives, aint that cute.
It's not what I want, it's what I've got lol. You'll find one one day if you're lucky. Not from dating apps though
post 1686516583 07-14-2023, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats
It's not what I want, it's what I've got lol. You'll find one one day if you're lucky. Not from dating apps though
Youve got kids?
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post 1686517683 07-14-2023, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted By PartyGirlz
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I don’t even want my wife to work tbh. Just be a good mother

I don’t want my mother to be working with dudes that are tryna bang her
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