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post 1692586913 10-30-2023, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
Crime

Violent Crime

Crime

Violent Crime




https://www.npr.org/2022/10/27/11318...term-elections




Also all that looting you saw, most of that **** wasn't even reported. Many of the people that looted weren't caught / prosecuted. You didn't see department stores, grocers and outlet stores closing up shop and leaving town due to crime in the 90s. The reality is that crime is up. Further, you have no cash bail now, same criminal gets out 20 minutes after he goes in and he repeats without consequence. A great deal of data wasn't even fukking reported, retard.

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"The FBI tracks seven major types of crime, Asher explains on Morning Edition. Property crime — theft, auto theft and burglary — has been falling regularly for the last 20 years. Violent crime — aggravated assault, murder, rape and robbery — increased at least in 2020, but remains lower than it was in the 1990s."



8th paragraph of your link..

Holy fuk this is embarrassing for you.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
"The FBI tracks seven major types of crime, Asher explains on Morning Edition. Property crime — theft, auto theft and burglary — has been falling regularly for the last 20 years. Violent crime — aggravated assault, murder, rape and robbery — increased at least in 2020, but remains lower than it was in the 1990s."



8th paragraph of your link..

Holy fuk this is embarrassing for you.
Did you read the whole article you fukking retard? Rhetorical question.
In 2015, the FBI announced that it would be switching from its previous system to only using NIBRS beginning in 2021, meaning that as of this year, departments had to submit data via NIBRS or not at all.

As it turns out, many chose the latter. The 63% of law enforcement agencies that submitted data for 2021 marks the lowest level of participation the FBI has reported in decades, and only 52% of them submitted a full 12 months of data.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
After the crack epidemic in the early 90s, crime dropped. It recently has surged upwards. Why is this different than your graphs? Easy, reporting. What is reported and what is classified as "violent crime" is subjective and can be manipulated to give certain appearances. Actual deaths cant be manipulated, and violent crimes follow closely to the murder rate. No one with a functioning brain believes that graph of violent crime. Only a moron would believe. Dont be a moron.








"Reported" violent crime. You acknowledged that since 2020 things have gotten worse.....why doesnt your own graph show that???? Because it is bullchit


Lol @ using raw numbers and ignoring the 40% increase in population.

Only a moron would do that. Don't be a moron.
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post 1692587133 10-30-2023, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted By KBurn
I keep seeing stuff from ads and shows about 90s USA, and it looks like heaven on earth.

- Family lives in beautiful suburbs with lush green lawns
yes
- Dad works 9-5, mom is SAHM No. after the 70s, a lot of moms had to work. Thanks socialism!!
- Kids get all the latest toys, super soakers, he-man, TMNT, dino riders, mask, etc.only Christmas and bdays
- Kids have enough money to get body armour/etc. and pretend/play american football on their beautiful green lawnswe saved from our paper routes and part time jobs as bus boys
- Every weekend is always superbowl with a BBQ, chips, lots of soft drinkshad lots of cookouts with friends
- Every friday night is smackdown, family buys pizza and watches togetheryes
- Every meal is pizza or burgers with a big gulp at maccas or hungry jackslol no. But would have been great
- saturday night is go to the mall, get the latest toys, mom gets the latest fashion, then see some GOAT 90s movie like rambo or die hard or somethingFootball games and hanging out with friends
- gets new vidya all the time for their NESrented a lot from blockbuster
- holidays to disneyland and exotic destinations to mexico, latam, hawaii all the timeA lot of fams had to save for a big vacation. Took two summers of no vacation for this
- high school if you're the jock you get the cheerleader, the nerds get the theatre/band girls, everyone gets with someoneyes

If I died and went to heaven, this is what I want it to be.
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Replace NES with SNES, Genesis, N64, PS1 and yes.

90s were GOAT.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
same chit bro

Cool. I'm not comparing 2021 to 2010.

I Specifically said crime is lower than the 90s.

Stop being obtuse. You're clearly wrong if you think crime is currently higher than the 90s.

I agree it's trending in the wrong direction.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
After the crack epidemic in the early 90s, crime dropped. It recently has surged upwards. Why is this different than your graphs? Easy, reporting. What is reported and what is classified as "violent crime" is subjective and can be manipulated to give certain appearances. Actual deaths cant be manipulated, and violent crimes follow closely to the murder rate. No one with a functioning brain believes that graph of violent crime. Only a moron would believe. Dont be a moron.








"Reported" violent crime. You acknowledged that since 2020 things have gotten worse.....why doesnt your own graph show that???? Because it is bullchit


lmao this guy is a retard, I don't think reality is going to click for him

https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...ate-statistics

EDIT: I see you posted the graph at this link already lmao, nice
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
Crime

Violent Crime

Crime

Violent Crime




https://www.npr.org/2022/10/27/11318...term-elections




Also all that looting you saw, most of that **** wasn't even reported. Many of the people that looted weren't caught / prosecuted. You didn't see department stores, grocers and outlet stores closing up shop and leaving town due to crime in the 90s. The reality is that crime is up. Further, you have no cash bail now, same criminal gets out 20 minutes after he goes in and he repeats without consequence. A great deal of data wasn't even fukking reported, retard.
It is hard to know the true stats of certain crimes. I would say especially theft. I live in St. Louis, and people will smash windows to steal anything you leave in your car. I know people who messed up one time and left something in their car and next morning window smashed items gone. It's so frequent i see smashed windows almost every single day, but most of the people it happens to don't even report it because the cops wont or cant do anything about it, and so almost every instance of it goes unreported.

I can't say for sure how it was 30 years ago, but it wasn't like this 10-15 years ago. Older people than me say it wasn't as frequent as it is now.

Stats are good, but stats can be flawed due to many variables and if the stats don't match many peoples reports of what the reality is, then the stats are probably flawed.
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90s was pretty dope relative to today. But my family wasn't rich, so no, not every weekend was a massive party like you're describing lol
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Originally Posted By Contribution05
It is hard to know the true stats of certain crimes. I would say especially theft. I live in St. Louis, and people will smash windows to steal anything you leave in your car. I know people who messed up one time and left something in their car and next morning window smashed items gone. It's so frequent i see smashed windows almost every single day, but most of the people it happens to don't even report it because the cops wont or cant do anything about it, and so almost every instance of it goes unreported.

I can't say for sure how it was 30 years ago, but it wasn't like this 10-15 years ago. Older people than me say it wasn't as frequent as it is now.

Stats are good, but stats can be flawed due to many variables and if the stats don't match many peoples reports of what the reality is, then the stats are probably flawed.
That's what we're arguing, but also the graphs support what we're saying over this retard who has lost touch with reality. The link shows that a considerable majority of crime wasn't even reported. Also, we're talking about crime in general, which seems to have escaped his intellectual capacity, can't talk sense to someone that has tunnel vision. You're right though, a lot of it still doesn't get reported for the reasons you mentioned and probably other reasons, imminent threat to person, family, business, etc. You add bail reform to all of this and you've got to be blind not to see crime is up. Looting, every day theft, name brand stores closing up shop. It's safe to say crime is up in all aspects, it's just as severe if not more, frequency is higher, scope is more broad and you have criminals from sh!t hole ghettos now leaving their home turf more commonly, especially in zero cash bail areas.
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- Family lives in beautiful suburbs with lush green lawns- No. We lived in a regular neighborhood with half the people having dead grass just like you see in any area now.

- Dad works 9-5, mom is SAHM- No- Mom always had to work full time.

- Kids get all the latest toys, super soakers, he-man, TMNT, dino riders, mask, etc.- No. you got toys but they were just regular stuff like a football or frisbee or something like that. Maybe a video game. Usually not the most hard to get popular toy as they were expensive.

- Kids have enough money to get body armour/etc. and pretend/play american football on their beautiful green lawns- No. You gto allowance if you were a kid in trade for working around the house. You could maybe buy a cd or something like that with the money. If you had a job obviously you could buy what you wanted.

- Every weekend is always superbowl with a BBQ, chips, lots of soft drinks- No- they were regular weekends just like today. Maybe go to the park or beach or something like that.

- Every friday night is smackdown, family buys pizza and watches together- Yes- we did this pretty much.

- Every meal is pizza or burgers with a big gulp at maccas or hungry jacks- No, we had regular meals. Meat loaf, mac and cheese and the like.

- saturday night is go to the mall, get the latest toys, mom gets the latest fashion, then see some GOAT 90s movie like rambo or die hard or something. No, you could go to blockbuster though and rent a movie if they had any good ones left.

- gets new vidya all the time for their NES- No as they were oo expensive. You might get one a year after they came out but hardly any kid was well off enough to buy the latest games or systems.

- holidays to disneyland and exotic destinations to mexico, latam, hawaii all the time- No, you might go camping or maybe disneyland but that was rare. Usually it would be go to grandmas house or the like.

- high school if you're the jock you get the cheerleader, the nerds get the theatre/band girls, everyone gets with someone- Yes, somewhat true. Although obviously not everyone got laid.
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the momma's boy got 0wned, enjoy living in your delusion, moron

Originally Posted By HayZues
I'm a 90s kid man, thr 1990s were a million times better than this post internet, socialless society chit hole were in right now.

Crime is still lower now. Not debatable.
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90s kid here. It honestly was heaven compared to this social media addiction era
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
90's for me. Racing home from baseball practice to catch the start of Monday Night Raw with Stone Cold, the Rock and Kurt Angle. No 9-11, no middle East wars, no Covid, no inflation, no CRT, no Antifa, no trannies..... good times
i didn't even know what a tranny was in the 90s. the craziest stuff i saw was on jerry springer (jew) and these videos i could rent called "faces of death". now kids see more crap in a day than i saw in the entire decade of the 90s.

i also feel that for many families the 90s was just a continuation of the 80s. not much drastically changed aside from having sega genesis and super nintendo and later playstation
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
If you didn't wanna watch Jerry springer, you could always watch Maury Povich embarrass entire families over DNA tests. Lol at middle America getting cucked.
Those shows are 100% actors, been proven multiple times. Also, they're a scourge on society, and the beginning of the rot.

GOAT shows were Saturday morning cartoons, WWF, FRIENDS, buffy, Hercules, Xena, Simpsons, beavis and butthead, daria
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
That's what we're arguing, but also the graphs support what we're saying over this retard who has lost touch with reality. The link shows that a considerable majority of crime wasn't even reported. Also, we're talking about crime in general, which seems to have escaped his intellectual capacity, can't talk sense to someone that has tunnel vision. You're right though, a lot of it still doesn't get reported for the reasons you mentioned and probably other reasons, imminent threat to person, family, business, etc. You add bail reform to all of this and you've got to be blind not to see crime is up. Looting, every day theft, name brand stores closing up shop. It's safe to say crime is up in all aspects, it's just as severe if not more, frequency is higher, scope is more broad and you have criminals from sh!t hole ghettos now leaving their home turf more commonly, especially in zero cash bail areas.
Bro you are so ****ing dumb, I'm embarrassed for you.


If you think that stat about how the reporting form changed and some % of departments not filing actually means that the fbi stats are incomplete, and only representing 50% of crimes is fuking hilarious and nail in the coffin evidence of how fuking dumb you are.

If I were you, I'd seriously kill myself.
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Those shows are 100% actors, been proven multiple times. Also, they're a scourge on society, and the beginning of the rot.

GOAT shows were Saturday morning cartoons, WWF, FRIENDS, buffy, Hercules, Xena, Simpsons, beavis and butthead, daria
Not true. I know a couple people who were on those shows (srs - Maury and Judge Mathis to be specific). No actors. Producers encourage the guests to act out for the cameras tho.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Bro you are so ****ing dumb, I'm embarrassed for you.


If you think that stat about how the reporting form changed and some % of departments not filing actually means that the fbi stats are incomplete, and only representing 50% of crimes is fuking hilarious and nail in the coffin evidence of how fuking dumb you are.

If I were you, I'd seriously kill myself.
Please, do us all a favor and take your own advice.

The irony in the bolded part of your quoted post is thick. You don't like facts when they prove you wrong.

lol @ this momma's boy bitch who thinks he's some ghetto tough guy, fuk out of here, Glass Joe. Stay mad forever.
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
Please, do us all a favor and take your own advice.

The irony in the bolded part of your quoted post is thick. You don't like facts when they prove you wrong.

lol @ this momma's boy bitch who thinks he's some ghetto tough guy, fuk out of here, Glass Joe. Stay mad forever.
You think the fbi crime stats since 2015 include only half of all crimes?

Lmao.

Dumb af.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
You think the fbi crime stats since 2015 include only half of all crimes?

Lmao.

Dumb af.
Why are you still responding? You got exposed as a moron. You don't like facts when they don't support your momma's boy liberal weak bull sh!t

fuk u
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
Why are you still responding? You got exposed as a moron. You don't like facts when they don't support your momma's boy liberal weak bull sh!t

fuk u
Lmaooooooo


So crime is higher now than the 90s??


You've been proven objectively wrong, an example of exactly what ails this society. People refuse to accept facts that counter their own bias.

What a pathetically weak mindset that takes. You're mentally similar to a pms'ing woman. Let that sink in. Ironically the fact that you're a huge bitch, is the closest you'll actually get to some pussy.

Lmao @ 22k posts on a bb forum and being a sloppy fat neckbeard. Holy fuk your existence is embarrassing.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Lmaooooooo


So crime is higher now than the 90s??


You've been proven objectively wrong, an example of exactly what ails this society. People refuse to accept facts that counter their own bias.

What a pathetically weak mindset that takes. You're mentally similar to a pms'ing woman. Let that sink in. Ironically the fact that you're a huge bitch, is the closest you'll actually get to some pussy.

Lmao @ 22k posts on a bb forum and being a sloppy fat neckbeard. Holy fuk your existence is embarrassing.
Why are you still responding? You just keep making chit up to make yourself feel better and to make people not tracking the discussion believe that you were right. You're incorrect and you're upset that the facts don't support your erroneous claim. I know that momma's boys have a complex to always be right in their own minds and for other people to think they're right, but that's a delusion. Maybe you have reading comprehension issues.

You'd get punked IRL.

It's hard to believe that any one is as stupid as you're presenting yourself to be, not sure if you're just trolling at this point. It's almost impossible you're this stupid.
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The 90s unfortunately started the rule that you could no longer stand up to bullies. They called it Zero Tolerance. It’s what started the weakening of society.

Men were strongly encouraged and influenced to talk about their feelings, as if we were women.

Racial tensions began to rise sharply. Racial fights broke out in schools. I remember sitting at the lunch table, and the black kids sitting at the next table over would fuark with us using racial slurs and throwing chit at us. The Puerto Ricans were no better either. White kids were getting jumped in the hallways, and after school.

There was heavy indoctrination that I didn’t realize the scale of until I was in my 30s and started reading books of my choice. Heavy influence to accept different cultures, lifestyles (mostly gay and lesbian).
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Men were strongly encouraged and influenced to talk about their feelings, as if we were women.
I see this everywhere now, including linkedin. Women posting about their dumbass feelings and all this leadership nonsense about empathy, trust, caring, blah blah blah
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Originally Posted By Kraken
The 90s unfortunately started the rule that you could no longer stand up to bullies. They called it Zero Tolerance. It’s what started the weakening of society.

Men were strongly encouraged and influenced to talk about their feelings, as if we were women.

Racial tensions began to rise sharply. Racial fights broke out in schools. I remember sitting at the lunch table, and the black kids sitting at the next table over would fuark with us using racial slurs and throwing chit at us. The Puerto Ricans were no better either. White kids were getting jumped in the hallways, and after school.

There was heavy indoctrination that I didn’t realize the scale of until I was in my 30s and started reading books of my choice. Heavy influence to accept different cultures, lifestyles (mostly gay and lesbian).
Clown world was already in full swing even back then... they just didn't realize it
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