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post 1693357113 11-14-2023, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By ChinkWithDink⏩
You clearly know what you are talking about. So are you saying that the jet fuel deformed the steel beams which caused the bolted connections to fail and that releases the whole floor to fall straight down?
And that can happen with multiple floors simultaneously?
This invalidates the theory that states floors should have fallen progressively and progressing no faster than g?

Am I understanding that right?

I would like to put out there that I trust your science, but it only demonstrates that burning jet fuel could have produced a collapse like that. It does not prove that it did cause the collapse because other causes could produce the same result.

Do you have any thoughts on the footage of what looks like molten metal, possibly thermite, ejecting from the buildings immediately before collapse?
Or the photos of beams that appear to have been intentionally cut in a straight line by melting?
No. I'm saying the entire steel structure in the upper floors was superheated, experienced thermal expansion and reduced stiffness. This began a chain of events which led to instability of columns + compounding kinetic energy of collapse.

Progressive failure in structural engineering is typically the opposite of sudden failure, it means significant deformation had to happen before ultimate failure.

I mean it would be physically impossible to accelerate faster than a g during collapse unless there were outside forces present.
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post 1693358493 11-14-2023, 10:51 AM
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If the Government did 9-11 why didn't they fake WMDs in Iraq?
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post 1693358533 11-14-2023, 10:52 AM
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Not even Osama bin Laden/Al Qaeda thought the buildings would collapse and were shocked that they did.
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post 1693358623 11-14-2023, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
If the Government did 9-11 why didn't they fake WMDs in Iraq?
Well they faked the "yellowcake" evidence also, which became pretty obvious.
post 1693358663 11-14-2023, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
If the Government did 9-11 why didn't they fake WMDs in Iraq?
they literally did fake wmds lmao

and yes i know what you're implying, but that is stupid. They got what they wanted, no need to risk physically planting a fuking nuke
post 1693358843 11-14-2023, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
I mean it would be physically impossible to accelerate faster than a g during collapse unless there were outside forces present.
I can not explain this very well, I mean like the speed of that chain of events + kinetic energy down the structure. I think maybe progressive failure and sudden failure are specific engineering terms that I am misusing.

I think the thermite and cut beams were staged so we are talking about whether or not the twin towers were demolished and not talking about WTC7 not being hit by a plane but also collapsing.

Does the WTC7 collapse explanation also conform to your science?
post 1693359343 11-14-2023, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By ChinkWithDink⏩
I can not explain this very well, I mean like the speed of that chain of events + kinetic energy down the structure. I think maybe progressive failure and sudden failure are specific engineering terms that I am misusing.

I think the thermite and cut beams were staged so we are talking about whether or not the twin towers were demolished and not talking about WTC7 not being hit by a plane but also collapsing.

Does the WTC7 collapse explanation also conform to your science?
No idea, I was only requested to do a failure analysis on one of the towers (redundancy on second).

Regardless of what happened that day, there's no way the patriot act and the egregious destruction of our civil liberties and privacy post 9/11 were not planned.
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post 1693359853 11-14-2023, 11:21 AM
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Interview on 9/11 with Ehud Barak. He says "expolsions". LOL
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post 1693363643 11-14-2023, 12:33 PM
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my dad actually helped build the twin towers and he said during construction they mixed saw dust in with the cement to save costs, he bet his worker buddy 10 bucks that it would fall under its own weight if a plain smooshed into it. He never got those 10 bucks from billy, probably because he died when it happened. make of that what you will.
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Originally Posted By Jms89⏩
Conspiracy bois should watch this... one of the reasons i became a civil engineer was because of witnessing 9/11 when i was a kid. I wanted to understand Statics, building systems, etc. This guy does a good job explaining the physics behind it. I love conspiracy theories, and i don't buy the official story, but i do not believe the building was rigged. There is so much that goes into rigging a building for demolition, i can't imagine it would go undetected. Building 7 is the more fishy story, especially with that being a huge office for the Feds. Also, Larry Silverstein is sketchy AF.

The reason I became a pilot was because of 9/11. I swore then that, should I actually make it as a pilot, no one was ever going to get into my cockpit and take over my airplane.

I also don't believe the towers were rigged.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
my dad actually helped build the twin towers and he said during construction they mixed saw dust in with the cement to save costs, he bet his worker buddy 10 bucks that it would fall under its own weight if a plain smooshed into it. He never got those 10 bucks from billy, probably because he died when it happened. make of that what you will.
Lol'd because it was a steel frame and the slabs were ready-mix.
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Lol'd because it was a steel frame and the slabs were ready-mix.
must have been quite the operation to get ready mix to the top and in place on time lol.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
must have been quite the operation to get ready mix to the top and in place on time lol.
Pumping concrete soup
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Pumping concrete soup
probably wasn't easy but yeah they pumped it up there.
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Pumping concrete soup
didn't think it would pump that high. they probably had to pump it into a vat, then set up another pump and pump to the next vat, etc...I don't think a single pipe or boom goes anywhere near that high.

just googled it its been pumped 1,800 feet vertically (but this was recent).
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
didn't think it would pump that high. they probably had to pump it into a vat, then set up another pump and pump to the next vat, etc...I don't think a single pipe or boom goes anywhere near that high.
I’m not 100% sure on the means and methods back then but you can definitely pump concrete that high for a while now. Massive amounts. Just gotta be on dat dere super plasticizer time so you can push soup.
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post 1693366103 11-14-2023, 01:25 PM
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If you believe it was an inside job and you still live in the US, then you do NOT actually believe it was an inside job.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
I agree that of all the things that happened that day, the towers collapsing is the LEAST fishy.

building 7
no pentagon footage, no pentagon wreckage, the "plane" hitting a section of the pentagon that was vacated for renovations
flight 93 being shot down instead of the hokey "lets roll" story

all>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>towers collapsing the way they did.

but that being said if you are willing to doubt any of the story, you have to doubt all of the story.
And what video of the Pentagon that was shown was of poorer quality than a surveillance system from a Wal-mart of that time.
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
I’m not 100% sure on the means and methods back then but you can definitely pump concrete that high for a while now. Massive amounts. Just gotta be on dat dere super plasticizer time so you can push soup.
I don't think plasticizers worked that good in the twin tower days. We switched over to the modern day plasticizers about 15 years ago and they're leaps and bounds better for slump gain and retention. The old school stuff was a joke.

I've seen in pump magazines where they just have a pump feeding another pump, and so on all the way up the building.
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
If you believe it was an inside job and you still live in the US, then you do NOT actually believe it was an inside job.
Lold, this fed boi over here is still looking for WMD in Iraq. Let us know when you find it, fella.
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the jews did 911

really got the goyim wanting to kill israel's enemies didn't it, look up the clean break memo written in 96 that was authored by the people that would later be staffed in bush's regime.
fact:9/11 would not have happened if Israel wasn't our greatest parasite erm i mean ally
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
I don't think plasticizers worked that good in the twin tower days. We switched over to the modern day plasticizers about 15 years ago and they're leaps and bounds better for slump gain and retention. The old school stuff was a joke.

I've seen in pump magazines where they just have a pump feeding another pump, and so on all the way up the building.
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