Two or three beers a day won’t do **** - it takes hard spirits daily to really take a toll

Yeah obviously it starts to diminish the qualify of life in real…at first regular drinkers don't realize this or don't take it seriously…until they start seeing the effects (even if they are not drinking)…then to cope with their semi-pathetic version they drink more and more…to the point you either choose to quit altogether or turn into an alcoholic…

It's pretty much a choice…you either enjoy your present (with hidden costs/like I mentioned it effects other things in life negatively)…or just lead a clean lifestyle focused more on pure reality and a healthier approach to future…but do you think I care much about future after the age of 35?

Vitamin B injections? Why? You can take them in tablets or capsules eaily enough, and it'll turn your pee neon yellow.






I'm seriously not saying this to insult you, but you are clearly in denial about the extent of your drinking issues.

Believe me man, I get where you're coming from. But giving up entirely after age 35 is ridiculous, man. Alcoholism is an absolutely awful way to lose your health (and possibly die early from it).




The premise of OP's thread is drinking 10+ tall beers or a bottle of hard liquor like 10 days a month.

That's definitely accessive to spend 1/3 of your life getting drunk that often. As for guys who "only drink 2 - 3 per night", I've seen countless people let that lead to drinking more and more. Establishing it as a daily habit even in smaller amounts is a great way to slowly increase your depedence over time.

Also, many of the 2 - 3 beer a night guys are still getting obliterated a couple times a week but downplay that part of it. If you're getting hammered every weekend, then yes, those 2 - 3 nightly beers are also going to be hard on you.

Lol no, smoking weed during the day isn't even close to day drinking. You can smoke a non-huge amount of weed and still be very productive. Day drinking just makes people sloppy real fast. Seeing someone act even slightly drunk during the day makes them look like a mess imo.

Alcohol and drugs don’t work in the long run, and even temporarily it’s just a waste of money, time, etc

I spent a majority of my college and early 20’s smoking/getting high and didn’t gain anything from it. Only held me back in many ways (made less friendships/bad friends, zero dating life/girlfriends/relationships, less focused on education, gaining skills, my hobbies like playing guitar and music production went nowhere, etc)

Just grind in the gym and make positive life choices, improve yourself in every way possible… and you just may cure whatever bullchit depression you have. You can only be happy and at peace with yourself when you’re completely comfortable in your own skin/sober, being genuine and respectful to yourself.

both are equally destructive but yes alchohol can be more scandalous and dangerous

brb

Lol weed is nowhere near as destructive as alcohol. Not trying to be a dick, but you clearly aren't speaking from experience.

To be clear, yes weed can be destructive. I know some potheads who just do it constantly, can't handle their chit all that well tbh (they act high-ish easily even off smaller amounts), and they make it part of their personalities.

Those people just have addictive personalities, though. It's a scientific fact that alcohol is far more destructive both to the person using and those around them. Denying that is alcoholic-tier cope.

I've smoked A LOT through my twenties early 30s bruh

Stoped smoking alone two or three years ago because It was hindering my existence, now I only do it with friends and so on. It can really sedate you and make you dependant without you even noticing.

I just like drinking, been cutting back a bit but nothing like a few shots after a long day and just chilling.

I like my drinking to be real smooth and relaxing on me and the people around me. I have been drinking solo only in the last 3 years and don't even leave home for once when I am drinking or drunk. Also I like to have full free day to myself when I am drinking. I don't like any kind of mess to happen to me or people around me when I am drinking. The peaceful I keep it, the more I prolong my drinking adventures.

Sure there was a time when I would be drunk and go wild, but that was when I was drinking with friends. Now I am all solo, so my alcohol era has also changed.

Regarding why the injections. Excessive alcohol use impacts virtually every aspect and organ of the body. When I said my ex died from total organ failure, I mean total failure. As a result of this, the intestinal tract is significantly impaired and importantly is really really bad at absorbing vitamins. Light depression can result, or it can worsen existing depression. More seriously in many cases it can lead to significant neurological impairment, insanity, and shutdown of the use of limbs and bodily function. I can provide the conditions but they have wild names I can't recall off the top of my head and need to run to work. Edit, check out Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome.

Genetics does play a role in this. I dated two twins at separate times that were both at the time when I dated them in some form of sobriety. Both nearly died, and I hope they're both alive, but got close to end stage a couple years after I dated them. Extreme moon face, unrecognizable, on girls that were roughly 5'4 and 120 lbs and athletic. This was due to their body's inability to process pretty much anything in their body and water retention. Their brother was 26ish when I knew him and had a colonoscopy bag as a result of drinking. He was sober last time I knew, but talk about a game changer for a really handsome guy. There's a good chance someone in their immediate family is dead way too young. Genetics is a leering specter that people don't always take into account in regards to hidden risk. I don't mean in how alcohol effects them when they drink or how it leads to alcoholism, simply how much alcohol their body can take before it taps out. Genetics of course do play a significant role in the risk of developing alcoholism, but that's not my point of emphasis here.

It's a very reasonable statement to make that more than 50% of people if they had had my same alcohol intake would be dead, some significant remainder would have some spectrum of lifetime health impacts. I am lucky that I had a 14 month, and 3 month or so forced sobriety, coupled with multiple month long, in some cases several long stints of voluntary sobriety before my current period which allowed for healing. For heavier drinkers, I do recommend taking a month long sobriety break to allow for unknown damage to be healed, as well as to take a realistic look at how their life is without alcohol, verus with heavier drinking, and consider maybe pulling back a bit or changing behavior if you notice positive impacts without alcohol. No reason to eschew alcohol if there aren't signs of alcoholism and have drinks on dates, etc., but I've seen a lot of positive impacts come from people that enjoyed a sobriety break and decided to make some realistic and reasonable changes.

I find the urge to drink alcohol and the urge to drink alcohol in larger amounts….if I have had a long day…or I worked lots of hours (it's kind of a reap reward situation).

is a 40oz and some 2-3 shots a night a lot?

A 40 is like 3 beers? I'm sure a sizeable amount of people drink that every night

yea at 8.1%

Whether it's alcohol, weed or whatever it's mostly a means of escapism from the banality of everyday life in modern society imo.

Makes sense, when I'm traveling or smashing a new sloot I have no desire to drink

But the daily grind wears you down so you look for anything to get a hit of dopamine or relief

I'm not a hippie but I think the way modern society is structured is unnatural in many ways. Most people are trying to escape from something

Alchohol is ****

My dad drinks a lot. I’ve only drank 1 beer in my entire life and that was when I was young. Literally only 1 beer in my entire existence

Taste like chit, made me drowsy, made me sleepy, lowered my energy, made my adhd worse

Never again. Crazy how my dad is the exact opposite