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03-15-2024, 07:46 PM
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And……?
They should probably be paying some taxes.
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03-15-2024, 08:00 PM
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Working 40hrs a week is too much???
I'd rather have an extra day every week to spend with my family rather than with my coworkers.
Time is precious. Going from a 5/2 to a 4/3 is still not even in the workers favors in terms of time. You can say by hour it's not much, but taking an 8 hour block of time in the middle of the day is effectively taking the whole day.


As for people saying it can't be done… they probably said that back when 80 hour work weeks were the norm too.
As I said originally; it would not be a painless transition, but overall and in the long run, I think it would be better for everyone.
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03-15-2024, 08:14 PM
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Why not just send everyone EBTs loaded with $5k a month. Srsly, if we're going to employ magical thinking here, what's stopping them from going whole hog here?
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03-15-2024, 08:21 PM
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I'd rather have an extra day every week to spend with my family rather than with my coworkers.
Time is precious. Going from a 5/2 to a 4/3 is still not even in the workers favors in terms of time. You can say by hour it's not much, but taking an 8 hour block of time in the middle of the day is effectively taking the whole day.


As for people saying it can't be done… they probably said that back when 80 hour work weeks were the norm too.
As I said originally; it would not be a painless transition, but overall and in the long run, I think it would be better for everyone.
You DO know that the proposal would only give someone overtime if they worked more than 32hrs a week. So what do you think a business owner is going to do?
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03-15-2024, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
California introduced a 20 dollar minimum wage, how's that working out?

And what do you think a business will do if they have to pay their employees time and a half, after 32hrs?

What do you think it'll do to city budgets, when they have to pay their city workers, time and a half after 32hrs?

****, fast food employees in Cali will be making 30 dollars an hr, after they passed 32hrs for the week…..
To reiterate the question, do the retards on this forum think that productivity collapsed and businesses all folded when the 40 hour work week was first introduced?
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03-15-2024, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy⏩
I'd rather have an extra day every week to spend with my family rather than with my coworkers.
Time is precious. Going from a 5/2 to a 4/3 is still not even in the workers favors in terms of time. You can say by hour it's not much, but taking an 8 hour block of time in the middle of the day is effectively taking the whole day.


As for people saying it can't be done… they probably said that back when 80 hour work weeks were the norm too.
As I said originally; it would not be a painless transition, but overall and in the long run, I think it would be better for everyone.
Hard to convince people whose throats are bruised from boot heels though…
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03-15-2024, 10:10 PM
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You know all you dim witted people advocating for this. You can just work a part time job and enjoy having less money and more free time if your inclined.

Its going to basically bring the same thing about because the costs will be passed onto the consumer. So just work less and dont devalue our money
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03-15-2024, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted By ThePD⏩
You know all you dim witted people advocating for this. You can just work a part time job and enjoy having less money and more free time if your inclined.

Its going to basically bring the same thing about because the costs will be passed onto the consumer. So just work less and dont devalue our money
part timers who have a decent situation can work part time and still qualify for every other subsidies , snap, medicaid, housing etc… free upgrades to where you are lving like a new ac heater etc lmao @ not working part time and draining the system if you can or dont have a 80+k career
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03-15-2024, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Stopped reading here….



Wtf is "WE" wincel… you've never had a job in your entire life.


LMFAO wincel complaining the work week needs to be shortened and he doesnt even fuking work.

where is kormo to chime in too.
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03-16-2024, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy⏩
I'd rather have an extra day every week to spend with my family rather than with my coworkers.
Time is precious. Going from a 5/2 to a 4/3 is still not even in the workers favors in terms of time. You can say by hour it's not much, but taking an 8 hour block of time in the middle of the day is effectively taking the whole day.


As for people saying it can't be done… they probably said that back when 80 hour work weeks were the norm too.
As I said originally; it would not be a painless transition, but overall and in the long run, I think it would be better for everyone.
So whats stopping you?

No one is forcing you to work a 40.

Here's what would happen(assuming overtime would still be on the table) you, like just about everyone else, wouldn't turn that time and half down, you would still work your 40, if not more hours…..just like Im assuming you never decreased your hours after every raise you received over the years. Instead, assuming you're smart, the more you made, the more you worked, just like every successful person.
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03-16-2024, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted By ThePD⏩
You know all you dim witted people advocating for this. You can just work a part time job and enjoy having less money and more free time if your inclined.
Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
So whats stopping you?

No one is forcing you to work a 40.
That's the thing… they think they'll be able to drop back to 15-20hrs per week or whatever - and still get paid for 40 lol.

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03-16-2024, 04:49 AM
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To reiterate the question, do the retards on this forum think that productivity collapsed and businesses all folded when the 40 hour work week was first introduced?
They probably made less money.

Anyway, what do you think a business would do, if they had to start paying their employees overtime after 32hrs?

What would cities do, if they had to pay all city employees, overtime after 32hrs?
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03-16-2024, 04:52 AM
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That's the thing… they think they'll be able to drop back to 15-20hrs per week or whatever - and still get paid for 40 lol.

I got sum bad news boyos.
They're not even looking at the proposal. They would support it, until they're hrs are slashed to 32hrs, taxes go up to pay for the city employees, hell even the federal employees, and the price of everything else goes up.

Then they can blame it all on the rich, and corporations…..
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03-16-2024, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
They probably made less money.

Anyway, what do you think a business would do, if they had to start paying their employees overtime after 32hrs?

What would cities do, if they had to pay all city employees, overtime after 32hrs?
You think median wages started falling after 1940 when the 40 hour work week was made federal law?
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03-16-2024, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Stopped reading here….



Wtf is "WE" wincel… you've never had a job in your entire life.

Wincel is starting to sound like the smartest guy on the forum.


Kinda like my pet cat - Leisuring around all day while I work for it.
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Wincel is starting to sound like the smartest guy on the forum.


Kinda like my pet cat - Leisuring around all day while I work for it.
Similar intellectual level too.

Don't get me wrong, cats are pretty smart.
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03-16-2024, 06:47 AM
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In theory, I think the ultimate goal of AI and automation is to decrease the human element of production. The decrease in the need for human labor should, in theory, decrease the cost of the goods, which would be a sort of payment to the worker as opposed to an increase in wages. This of course all falls apart as the corporations wouldn't lower the cost but instead increase profits lol.

It has to be obviously implemented right, which it won't be, but everyone should support a society where less work is required.
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03-16-2024, 06:49 AM
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In theory, I think the ultimate goal of AI and automation is to decrease the human element of production. The decrease in the need for human labor should, in theory, decrease the cost of the goods, which would be a sort of payment to the worker as opposed to an increase in wages. This of course all falls apart as the corporations wouldn't lower the cost but instead increase profits lol.

It has to be obviously implemented right, which it won't be, but everyone should support a society where less work is required.
I would support that… Thing is though the bills won't stop coming in. Gotta buy food, clothing, and gas for the car, etc..
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I would support that… Thing is though the bills won't stop coming in. Gotta buy food, clothing, and gas for the car, etc..
Yeah, I have no idea how this would all work in practice.

The only real way would be a system where the government controls the price of everything..which is not a system that would actually work lol.
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03-16-2024, 07:36 AM
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You think median wages started falling after 1940 when the 40 hour work week was made federal law?
Once again, the proposal is that someone would make overtime after 32 hrs. Thus, if I'm a business owner, I'm gonna start slashing hrs, so I don't have to pay someone overtime.

And once again, where is the money going to come from to pay all the city and federal workers, when they work more than 32 hrs a week?
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03-16-2024, 07:37 AM
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In theory, I think the ultimate goal of AI and automation is to decrease the human element of production. The decrease in the need for human labor should, in theory, decrease the cost of the goods, which would be a sort of payment to the worker as opposed to an increase in wages. This of course all falls apart as the corporations wouldn't lower the cost but instead increase profits lol.

It has to be obviously implemented right, which it won't be, but everyone should support a society where less work is required.
A Wall-E like society? That's something to support?
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03-16-2024, 07:38 AM
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Wincel is starting to sound like the smartest guy on the forum.


Kinda like my pet cat - Leisuring around all day while I work for it.

Lets not confuse lazy with smart…
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LMFAO wincel complaining the work week needs to be shortened and he doesnt even fuking work.

where is kormo to chime in too.
He wants it for his internet friends so he has someone to play video games with during the day. The basement can be a very lonely place during the work day…
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A Wall-E like society? That's something to support?
Never seen it. What do you mean by that?
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03-16-2024, 10:28 AM
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Never seen it. What do you mean by that?
Bruh, just type in Wall-E society, we're practically there already.

The movie came out in 2008, and it's scary in a way how it mimics today's society, especially with our youth.
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03-16-2024, 11:39 AM
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Commies and socialists both do this.

First, they claim this utopian society. They claim everyone works hard and people won't be greedy or lazy, it will just be so great.

They will reference countries that are nothing like us as their examples of how it works, but in realty these countries are not actually socialist.

Communists will claim that communism has never been tried and all those other things were not actually communism.
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03-17-2024, 12:16 PM
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Here's what would happen(assuming overtime would still be on the table) you, like just about everyone else, wouldn't turn that time and half down, you would still work your 40, if not more hours…..just like Im assuming you never decreased your hours after every raise you received over the years. Instead, assuming you're smart, the more you made, the more you worked, just like every successful person.
Except for the gotchas and unintended consequences…

1. Business starts paying Overtime for hours 32-40, which then leads to cost increases for their product/service.
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2. Business cuts people off at 32 hours, which leads to less total pay.
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Except for the gotchas and unintended consequences…

1. Business starts paying Overtime for hours 32-40, which then leads to cost increases for their product/service.
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2. Business cuts people off at 32 hours, which leads to less total pay.
And right now is a terrible time to try to pass this bill. Current businesses are having a really hard time hiring enough people, limiting hours would require hiring even more people.
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And right now is a terrible time to try to pass this bill. Current businesses are having a really hard time hiring enough people, limiting hours would require hiring even more people.
The actual results would be… OMG!!1 we need more immigrants, which is always the end game by the uni-party.
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And right now is a terrible time to try to pass this bill. Current businesses are having a really hard time hiring enough people, limiting hours would require hiring even more people.
Holy ****, he finally makes sense.
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