Thread: You guys try kratom?
03-22-2024, 09:07 AM
#61
Never touched it but I know a few people over the years that used it to kick opioids / alcohol. Seems to do the trick.
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03-22-2024, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Sgt T-Man⏩
Take it daily you will become dependant, fact.
have fun while it lasts or at least however long you can deny you have become addicted.
have fun while it lasts or at least however long you can deny you have become addicted.
Bullsh i t.
this poster still refuses to give any proof hes ever even tried it.
just pushing FDA/BigPharma shill nonsense.
03-22-2024, 09:14 AM
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tried it once and didn't really feel much from it aside from maybe slight euphoria
it binds to mu-opioid receptors in your brain just like dope does
it binds to mu-opioid receptors in your brain just like dope does
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03-22-2024, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
you honestly sound like an addict in denial.
Bullsh
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t.
this poster still refuses to give any proof hes ever even tried it.
just pushing FDA/BigPharma shill nonsense.
this poster still refuses to give any proof hes ever even tried it.
just pushing FDA/BigPharma shill nonsense.
there are withdrawals from it and people do become dependant on it. it's a fact not a conspiracy
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03-22-2024, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
Mad brah?
Bullsh
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this poster still refuses to give any proof hes ever even tried it.
just pushing FDA/BigPharma shill nonsense.
this poster still refuses to give any proof hes ever even tried it.
just pushing FDA/BigPharma shill nonsense.
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03-22-2024, 09:21 AM
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I take about 8-10 tea-to-tablespoons per day. I take more than anyone I know. I use a plastic spoon, swig some water, throw it back and then chug more water.
Started as appetite suppressor. I’m sure this amount can’t be good for me. Sometimes I have trouble focusing my vision if I take too much. I take a spoonful like every hour and a half.
Started as appetite suppressor. I’m sure this amount can’t be good for me. Sometimes I have trouble focusing my vision if I take too much. I take a spoonful like every hour and a half.
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03-22-2024, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By ithappenss⏩
you honestly sound like an addict in denial.
there are withdrawals from it and people do become dependant on it. it's a fact not a conspiracy
there are withdrawals from it and people do become dependant on it. it's a fact not a conspiracy
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Mad brah?
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I know more about it and consumed more than you ever will. I'm just saying my peace but you do whatever you want man.
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I know more about it and consumed more than you ever will. I'm just saying my peace but you do whatever you want man.
Spoken like true shills.
Never list any pertinent info.
Just propaganda level "muh addicts! Millions of people DIE from this!!!" "we need to ban it!" "muh addition worse than heroin!"
i can tell you've probably never even tr4ied it ebfore, adn are just regurgitating stuff you saw other people say. Like a good liberal shill.
03-22-2024, 11:21 AM
#68
Originally Posted By CellyTech⏩
It does but not for everyone just like anything on the market. I do use it for body pain but of course you never want to over do things… I go to the gym to help keep that pain at bay so using kratom at the end of my visits is when I mainly take it anymore deff a noticeable difference in recovery
Never touched it but I know a few people over the years that used it to kick opioids / alcohol. Seems to do the trick.
03-22-2024, 11:22 AM
#69
Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
Though it does use the same receptors the actions of it are completely different!
tried it once and didn't really feel much from it aside from maybe slight euphoria
it binds to mu-opioid receptors in your brain just like dope does
it binds to mu-opioid receptors in your brain just like dope does
03-22-2024, 11:30 AM
#70
Originally Posted By GrandpaFeathers⏩
Can confirm that amount of plant based powder is not doing your body any favors! I know extracts get a bad rap right now but it is a concern a few places are seemingly taking seriously with actual substantial moves to finding a way to FDA clearance or at least not under the scope of them. The problem is they never have and prob never will pass a raw powder they only allow extracts to begin with so it's been tough.
I take about 8-10 tea-to-tablespoons per day. I take more than anyone I know. I use a plastic spoon, swig some water, throw it back and then chug more water.
Started as appetite suppressor. I’m sure this amount can’t be good for me. Sometimes I have trouble focusing my vision if I take too much. I take a spoonful like every hour and a half.
Started as appetite suppressor. I’m sure this amount can’t be good for me. Sometimes I have trouble focusing my vision if I take too much. I take a spoonful like every hour and a half.
I could suggest that pump I was talking about it seems you take about a gram or so at a time and that pump is equivalent to that in each pump action… they have about 80 pumps in the bigger ones and 40 in the smaller one…. pop it under your tongue and you are good to go you just let it sit there for 30 seconds then swallow. My stomach has never ever thanked me more to be honest as I was a toss and washer to. But then the extract powders and caps you could never get a consistent dose in or mixture for that matter that was the same strength every time. I just like these dude are starting to use real bio-availability tech.
03-22-2024, 11:30 AM
#71
Originally Posted By JRPolney⏩
it produces a similar effect to that of any narcotic opiate in high enough doses and since it acts on the same exact pathway…i'd argue it's not that different brah
Though it does use the same receptors the actions of it are completely different!
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03-22-2024, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
Spoken like true shills.
Never list any pertinent info.
Just propaganda level "muh addicts! Millions of people DIE from this!!!" "we need to ban it!" "muh addition worse than heroin!"
i can tell you've probably never even tr4ied it ebfore, adn are just regurgitating stuff you saw other people say. Like a good liberal shill.
Never list any pertinent info.
Just propaganda level "muh addicts! Millions of people DIE from this!!!" "we need to ban it!" "muh addition worse than heroin!"
i can tell you've probably never even tr4ied it ebfore, adn are just regurgitating stuff you saw other people say. Like a good liberal shill.
03-22-2024, 11:35 AM
#73
I have dealt with opiate addiction and withdrawal so I have extensive knowledge in this area. I also experienced kratom addiction and withdrawal.
Kratom produces a similar high to low dose opiates and withdrawals from kratom are very similar to opiates just not as severe.
Honeymoon phase is a real thing after that majority of people will deny dependance and addiction to the bitter end to not admit they are an addict.
Kratom produces a similar high to low dose opiates and withdrawals from kratom are very similar to opiates just not as severe.
Honeymoon phase is a real thing after that majority of people will deny dependance and addiction to the bitter end to not admit they are an addict.
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03-22-2024, 11:44 AM
#74
Looks like there's a few paid kratom shills in here lol.
Kratom is indeed an opioid. The two main alkaloids are 7-Hydroxymitragynine and Mitragynine. These act on the same receptors as traditional opioids, such as the μ-opioid receptor. I would consider it safer than traditional opioids in terms of the possibility of overdosing and dying, but it can cause physical and psychological dependence. Withdrawal from kratom can be extremely difficult for some people.
I would recommend overall staying away from it due to the physical dependence.
Edit: If there's anyone in here that is trying to quit, I recommend checking out https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/ Yes, I know it's Reddit, but it is a pretty active and helpful community of people trying to quit kratom.
Kratom is indeed an opioid. The two main alkaloids are 7-Hydroxymitragynine and Mitragynine. These act on the same receptors as traditional opioids, such as the μ-opioid receptor. I would consider it safer than traditional opioids in terms of the possibility of overdosing and dying, but it can cause physical and psychological dependence. Withdrawal from kratom can be extremely difficult for some people.
I would recommend overall staying away from it due to the physical dependence.
Edit: If there's anyone in here that is trying to quit, I recommend checking out https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/ Yes, I know it's Reddit, but it is a pretty active and helpful community of people trying to quit kratom.
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03-22-2024, 11:53 AM
#75
Originally Posted By Sgt T-Man⏩
moderation
I have dealt with opiate addiction and withdrawal so I have extensive knowledge in this area. I also experienced kratom addiction and withdrawal.
Kratom produces a similar high to low dose opiates and withdrawals from kratom are very similar to opiates just not as severe.
Honeymoon phase is a real thing after that majority of people will deny dependance and addiction to the bitter end to not admit they are an addict.
Kratom produces a similar high to low dose opiates and withdrawals from kratom are very similar to opiates just not as severe.
Honeymoon phase is a real thing after that majority of people will deny dependance and addiction to the bitter end to not admit they are an addict.
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03-22-2024, 12:08 PM
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I've been using kratom since 2015. I stick mostly to plain kratom powder. I use extracts sparingly for bad days. I use about 4 grams, 4 times per day to manage chronic pain, but kratom gives a great mood lift and some energy too.
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03-22-2024, 12:40 PM
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Liked green
Liked white
Together they were great
Hated red
Issue was it the feelz barely lasted and tolerance built quick. Wasn’t worth it for those reasons
Liked white
Together they were great
Hated red
Issue was it the feelz barely lasted and tolerance built quick. Wasn’t worth it for those reasons
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03-23-2024, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Joeyw88⏩
You can absolutely become physically and psychologically dependent on a substance that binds to the receptors you mentioned. It's just a fact. Any denial of this is willing ignorance. That doesn't mean everyone's going to become 'addicted.' It's not a black and white thing.
Looks like there's a few paid kratom shills in here lol.
Kratom is indeed an opioid. The two main alkaloids are 7-Hydroxymitragynine and Mitragynine. These act on the same receptors as traditional opioids, such as the μ-opioid receptor. I would consider it safer than traditional opioids in terms of the possibility of overdosing and dying, but it can cause physical and psychological dependence. Withdrawal from kratom can be extremely difficult for some people.
I would recommend overall staying away from it due to the physical dependence.
Edit: If there's anyone in here that is trying to quit, I recommend checking out https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/ Yes, I know it's Reddit, but it is a pretty active and helpful community of people trying to quit kratom.
Kratom is indeed an opioid. The two main alkaloids are 7-Hydroxymitragynine and Mitragynine. These act on the same receptors as traditional opioids, such as the μ-opioid receptor. I would consider it safer than traditional opioids in terms of the possibility of overdosing and dying, but it can cause physical and psychological dependence. Withdrawal from kratom can be extremely difficult for some people.
I would recommend overall staying away from it due to the physical dependence.
Edit: If there's anyone in here that is trying to quit, I recommend checking out https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/ Yes, I know it's Reddit, but it is a pretty active and helpful community of people trying to quit kratom.
Physical withdrawal symptoms are real.
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03-23-2024, 04:06 AM
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I got addicted to Vicodin after I broke my hand, Someone said try Kratom.
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)
It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit….2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house…
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)
It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit….2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house…
03-23-2024, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Thebigzub⏩
I got addicted to Vicodin after I broke my hand, Someone said try Kratom.
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)
It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit….2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house…
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)
It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit….2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house…
You must have been taking a stupid amount everyday.
I take it everyday. One time I went cold turkey after two years every day, the withdrawals were nothing, similar to caffeine withdrawal. Went on with my day as normal and felt good after 5 days.
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03-23-2024, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Thebigzub⏩
What was your daily usage looking like for withdrawals to hit so hard?
I got addicted to Vicodin after I broke my hand, Someone said try Kratom.
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)
It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit….2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house…
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)
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03-23-2024, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Thebigzub⏩
Lolwut. That packaging seems extremely sus for “buying it online” bruh. What vendor did you use? It definitely is addictive and there are withdrawals if you take enough or long enough, but it is nowhere near the levels of pharmaceutical pain killers in my experience, in terms of the feeling and withdrawals.
I got addicted to Vicodin after I broke my hand, Someone said try Kratom.
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)
It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit….2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house…
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)
It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit….2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house…
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03-23-2024, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted By JustiNtense⏩
Exactly this. Kratom is in the same family as the coffee tree. The worst of the withdrawals are the cravings, similar to coffee or trying to cold turkey nicotine. It is in no way comparable to pain killers which will leave you dope sick and give you actual bad physical symptoms
You must have been taking a stupid amount everyday.
I take it everyday. One time I went cold turkey after two years every day, the withdrawals were nothing, similar to caffeine withdrawal. Went on with my day as normal and felt good after 5 days.
I take it everyday. One time I went cold turkey after two years every day, the withdrawals were nothing, similar to caffeine withdrawal. Went on with my day as normal and felt good after 5 days.
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03-23-2024, 07:04 AM
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I heard it's addictive.
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03-23-2024, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted By JustiNtense⏩
You must have been taking a stupid amount everyday.
I take it everyday. One time I went cold turkey after two years every day, the withdrawals were nothing, similar to caffeine withdrawal. Went on with my day as normal and felt good after 5 days.
I take it everyday. One time I went cold turkey after two years every day, the withdrawals were nothing, similar to caffeine withdrawal. Went on with my day as normal and felt good after 5 days.
Good for you man…..
just like any drug/alcohol…..if you abuse it you pay the price.
03-23-2024, 07:15 AM
#86
Originally Posted By Madscient1st⏩
You are 100% full of chit!!
. It is in no way comparable to pain killers which will leave you dope sick and give you actual bad physical symptoms
Go ahead and take 6-8 grams a day for 2 years and then quit cold turkey…..report back to me?
Like I said a DRUG is a DRUG if it is abused……good for you that take Gas station Kratom…….LOL
03-23-2024, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
addictions would not exist if moderation was available for all,genius.
moderation
stay away from mind altering substances all together. nothing good comes from them
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03-23-2024, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
Is there a particular reason why you like this strain? I've only really been using the MIT45 shots but looking to try something else.
https://earthkratom.com/kratom-strai...eng-da-kratom/
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03-23-2024, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Thebigzub⏩
I don’t take gas station Kratom. I use botanicalremedies. I’ve taken 10g + grams per day for over 4 years. Again, which vendor did you use that delivers it in zip lock bags? Talk about being full of chit. LOL
You are 100% full of chit!!
Go ahead and take 6-8 grams a day for 2 years and then quit cold turkey…..report back to me?
Like I said a DRUG is a DRUG if it is abused……good for you that take Gas station Kratom…….LOL
Go ahead and take 6-8 grams a day for 2 years and then quit cold turkey…..report back to me?
Like I said a DRUG is a DRUG if it is abused……good for you that take Gas station Kratom…….LOL
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03-23-2024, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Not at all. Think of it as being as addictive as caffeine. You can stop if you decide to, but just like caffeine, it's nice to have.
I heard it's addictive.
A lot of negative aspects you'd here would be complete bs from articles that don't like how much the natural occuring leaf has benefited thousands of people, when they could instead be relying on big pharma. It takes away money from big pharma. This product has helped people with severe drug addictions, it has helped people that suffer from pain etc.
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