Not really, the primary point I'm raising here is the question of whether or not Yahweh is evil.

I say yes, and you just ignore it and provide excuses.

And the morality question is absurd. It's absolutely subjective. If a more advanced civilization existed and arrived here on earth and started harvesting us like cattle, is that morally wrong? Probably not. From our perspective, sure.

But the question of "where does it come from?" is always a dumb one. I know I don't want my things stolen, so I don't steal. I know I don't want violence committed to me, so I don't commit it to others. We all recognize self-preservation and have tribal instinct, so we structure society and create laws and rules that make things safer.

Anyway, your morality runs into some rather larger issues because it's all based on your unhinged Yahweh. Depending on the day, some evil might actually be a good thing and just. It's all dependant on him, which is why divine command theory is unhinged. It quite clearly changed in the Bible.

You wrote a bunch of nothing weaving and dodging around the question

So you are, in fact, okay with the bible promoting killing and raping because it happened a long time ago?

Oh, I'm talking from the only perspective I know. A human one.

You're taking cues from a schizophrenic God who sometimes decides something is good and sometimes it's actually really bad.

Funny on the mutilation aspect too considering Yahweh wants his followers to mutilate themselves. Weird that, isn't it?

Point proven lmao.

Weird how you avoided the conversation I proposed. You have no argument.

What point do you think you've proven here, cultist?

Have you mutilated your penis by the way?

Why are you thinking about penises? How are you 37 years old and unable to have an actual discussion about a topic that YOU proposed.

Genuinely low IQ behavior.

Yeah yeah yeah, you're the one who isn't actually engaging with the discussion at hand.

Why did I ask about your mutilated penis? Oh, because it's something you're interested in, yeah? "You must believe it is okay to cut someones dick off and change genders." You said that, right? Or am I going stir crazy here. Why did you mutilate your penis?Brutal mutilation!

My favorite passage about genital mutilation is 1 Samuel 18:27

David wants to marry Saul's daughter Michal. So he and his men kill 200 Philistines, cut off their foreskins and bring them to Saul. Then count them in front of him, and Saul is like, yeah, here's my daughter champ.

lol

jfc

bible is absolutely fooked

Old Testament Crew

I'd do it

The Jews were created in a lab as a science experiment by Yakub in order to deceive the true living gods through the science of tricknology

Educate yourself

Op is a shill that has no understanding of the Bible. God only commands death in the Northern Kingdoms, never south, west or east. There is a very specific reason for that.. the bloodline of man had been corrupted & as a result DNA was corrupted (Anakim mixed in)

However you know OP is just a bitch because he continually dodges the question..If there is no God, why is any OT atrocity wrong?

So my dad did something and I pay the consequence? Strong everything. Was God a racist in those time srs?

Also, my post count is 666 must mean something (and awfk I missed the 66 post)

holy **** this is my god

I offer my mouth to his butthole

The bloodline was corrupted, “you” would not have been fully human. So yes..it’s death for you..otherwise like a rabid dog you affect all others.

And again..if there is no God..why is any OT atrocity wrong,

The 6000 year reign of the (((caucasoid))) is coming to an end

Oh, do go on. I wouldn't be fully human? So a **** right? Elaborate.

I do believe in God but still reading tbh. I like a lot of stuff in the Bible to be fair so I'm just throwing some things out for discussion.

You know this kinda makes no sense since wasn't Abraham's father some pagan? Was Abraham supposed to die?

No, not goy..Anakim

This might help..

Thanks brah

This is fallacious and non-sensical babble.

You don't need to have the a God to tell you whether murdering people is good for a healthy society or not.

The whole "objective moral values, where do they come from?" is a retarded line to go down as mentioned in our previous interaction. Humans are intelligent and sentient beings, and I know I don't want some retard to kill me, so I don't go out killing. Self-preservation works on many levels, not just murder but having possessions and so on. We structure society that way. We don't need a book to understand that apparently this is all from "God".

Which also circles back to the fact that Yahweh chops and changes his standards all the time. Sometimes his evil is actually good. So these "objective" values are quite flexible.

I don't even disagree with the idea of Yahweh having the right to do what he wants. That isn't the point being made. The point being made is that Yahweh is evil, commits evil and you still worship that and claim it to be "good". It might be "good" from his perspective, but certainly not from a human perspective. It's a word that is meaningless.

This guys point about "Can God commit murder?", the verb being kill. Yes, God did it all the time. But even if you grant he doesn't through some demented logic, he got his cultists to do it on his behalf. Even if you grant the killing of adults as just, there's no hypothetical loop holes you can jump through to suggest that stabbing a baby to death isn'tmurder.

The point about the old covenant being temporary does nothing for two main reasons. Firstly, it doesn't alter the fact that babies were stabbed to death and virgin women were taken as sex slaves after the deaths of their family. But also, and perhaps more importantly, Yahweh knew his cult couldn't adhere to the Covenant. Yet he gave it to them anyway? This is the work of something evil, quite clearly. And you know what he did when they didn't adhere to it? Punishment of course!

Nobody cares if the conquest of the "promised land" wasn't just about the killing. It was an ethnic cleansing and there are numerous commandments to kill everyone.

This "Anakim" theory is very convenient and says more about the reaches you want to go to justify the slaughter of men, women and children. You're reading into parts that aren't there to justify you despicable and deranged Yahweh. But more than this, Amelek was also to be slaughtered. Samuel has a direct command from the Demiurge that says "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." - and the reason given is because of what they did in Exodus.

Do you not wonder why all these other tribes wanted to kill the marauding cultists? They were like ISIS, going from town to town, city to city slaughtering and destroying cultures that predated them.

lmfao

The science is settled on atheism

And they want to teach this sht to kids in Oklahoma. Sounds like grooming to me.

Nothing you posted here refutes what was stated.
You have no objective morality, & you cannot trust your judgement because chemical processes do not necessarily lead to logical inference.

atheist worldview where chemical reactions lead to other chemical reactions, you cannot demonstrate that that initself leads to proper logical inference. If anything it can be demonstrated that it leads to something that is NOT proper logical inference.


If DNA is corrupted you have no choice but to extinguish that line. There is only one incident God orders to kill babies (maybe 2) and as stated previously it is for very good reason, in very specific regions. Human race would not be what it is today had not so.

Virgin women were not taken as sex slaves, they were to be married to, that is the Quran, not the OT. (Deuteronomy 21:12-13)

So far you are 0/3

Edit-if you reply back I’ll get to it tomorrow or later this evening , don’t be that weird guy like you were in the last thread calling me out all day, I have a life, it’s summer. Get outside & enjoy it. Srs

the jews are the ones who push the abortion ideology and sponsored it for decades. they want to wipe out the other races for finincal gain

There is no objective morality you ****ing idiot

I've explain my stance and why we get our subjective morality from. You believe that murder is wrong, unless God commands it. You believe that killing babies is wrong, unless God commands it. This is consistent with divine command theory of course, and it is very psychopathic.

We don't need to invoke or entertain your shiitt "objective vs subjective" debate. It's boring needless.

The "DNA" nonsense you're babbling on about isn't supported by the actual words in your Holy Book. It's simply apologetics, aka COPE. You know it's wrong but you need to justify it somehow.

Numbers 31 and Deuteronomy 21 are quite clear. Kill everyone, but the untouched women you can "marry" after 30 days. ISIS like derangement. Do you think these women are somehow falling in love with their abductors? The same ones who just slaughtered their families? RETARD

"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Rape a woman, pay the father off and you get to marry her. That's your morality, it's truly beautiful!

Let's take a closer look at the beautiful Deuteronomy 21

When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.

So, after you've killed all the men, women and children and spared some hot virgins, you can marry them. But only after 30 whole days (lots of time to grieve there). Your Yahweh is so gracious that he instructs his cult that if for whatever reason YOU (the man) is not pleased with the woman (who you have now ****ed in both a literal and figurative sense), you can let her do. You can't sell her though because you have "dishonored" (raped) her. Behold the majesty of the almighty God of Love!

The above passages and "rules" are utterly insane and the only COPE you have in literally denying the passages words (heretic), or claiming some bull**** about bloodlines being purged.

And all of this madness that is written and given by your God, you want to project this lunatic idea that "objective morality" comes from that and that's how we know what is "good" and "bad".

The cult of Yahweh engaged in ethnic cleansing and genocide, much like we saw ISIS. The world was horrified at what ISIS were doing, but really that looks like child's play to the passages and brutality of the cult.

PissantSoldier is angry at God.

Let us hope and pray that he comes to his senses.

Ngl I wasn't convinced about this but u think it is fair that we sometime do say "why doesn't God punish the wrongdoers"
The only issue is what do people 400 years later have to do with anything