10lbs of muscle burns like 80 more calories. It's insignificant.

It’s healthy to train but not if your that ifbb pro. Those guys are probably as healthy as someone completely out of shape.

This - if you can maintain these numbers past your late 20's and beyond, you're instantly ahead of 99% of the rest of the population. Keep your cardio ability up and you're golden.

You won't beat the very small number of outliers who have awesome strength and lifting ability and manage to maintain it but who cares- they're a minority at best and the goal should be longevity in training and life. I'm in my mid 30's now and the blast/cruisers burn out or goto chit after usually 5 years, and I've met a very small number of old dudes who maintained good numbers well into their 50's just by being consistent.

COVID lockdowns and gym closures in Australia, as well as working too hard busted my numbers right down- from training 5-7 days/week in gym and cardio 5 days/week, to only doing cardio and boring bodyweight stuff for near on 18 months, I was maxxing out with warmup weights when I came back. Then followed elbow tendonitis, ITB syndrome and other things that held me back despite lifting half of what I was before. I don't know if it's aging or that prolonged break and stress, but it feels like I'll never get back to where I was before.

These days, if I can bench body weight (180lb), squat 225lb, dead 300lb, and run 1.5 mile (2.5km) in 9 minutes, I'm pretty happy at that and not really going to try and push past it cause I want to stay in the game for as long as I possibly can....

Compare how you feel 6 weeks into lifting consistently Vs how you feel 6 weeks into non lifting and drinking etc. if you're lifting consistently, you tend to focus on things to improve your performance and gains, which happens to be the same things that improve your health, I.e eating well, resting, avoiding alcohol and drugs etc.

Its a stupid thing to say that
Any form of physical activity improve your health unless youre over doing it
I do both weight lift and some cardio
Point is not over do it like people trying to do like way past what they can lift or cardioing like they are going for ironman

I train because it help with my health, easier and better sleep, mental and mood
Much better than if i get my dopamine from ciggs or alcohol

Repped 100% - if you feel the same drinking and sitting around as you do when you're lifting/training (anything), you don't know how to lift/train. The need to rest and eat well is a given but if I JUST eat/sleep well and not train (working too hard at job), I feel heaps chitter than if I fit even 10min/day of HR>130/min training...

The conflation of alcohol/drugs with having a good time doesn't really hold either- nothing better than an endorphine hit from a good workout or smashing a hbb while sober and able to take in the whole experience.

I think Op is saying we should all do pure cardio. Ditch lifting weights and just cardio and diet.

Surely weight lifting has some benefit even if it helps doing everyday tasks.

I hate when people do something wrong and then claim it's bad.

finally some quality info, this is exactly how it should be done if you care about longevity/lifespan/health

without doing cardio you will just be a slow rolling meat box with large biceps.

This is a really underrated point. When I know I gotta go to the gym later that day or even the next day I’m way less likely to drink or eat a bunch of chit because I’m concerned about gym performance. So I’m just a lot more likely to do better in other aspects of health like you mentioned

I think the trick is you gotta love being in the gym. So if you aren’t excited about your current routine it’s time to mix it up and get excited again

I think for the best health some calisthenics and moderate cardio would be good while keeping a lower bodyweight. That said I personally don't give a fuk about health. I was just thinking about it yesterday.

who cares. big muscles cool.

Weight lifting / resistance training is very important for health. Especially as you age, to keep the body from becoming frail.

Very heavy lifting for hypertrophy? Yeah. Not beneficial health-wise. That is moving way more weight than is necessary for any sort of health benefit. And it can put a ton of stress on the joints. Bad form? High injury risk. The point of lifting heavy is because it is enjoyable, to better yourself, the endorphin rush, the peaceful ritual of having an empty gym to yourself, etc. And of course it helps with aesthetics. Tons of good reasons. But it isn't for health.