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08-05-2024, 08:32 PM
#61
Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
Nope..incorrect and proven false. Every missing link has been a proven fraud. Where would you like to start?
yes there is. humans were able to mate with them to some degree. we can detect neanderthal DNA (it's sequenced)
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08-05-2024, 08:33 PM
#62
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
what other animal has a hand? why are some humans born with tails? why are our facial features and sensory organs, genetalia, belly buttons in the exact same spot?
Breastfeed like apes? LOOL
No. We have no relation to apes or monkeys whatsoever, not even a distant species similar to. They have all been debunked.
No. We have no relation to apes or monkeys whatsoever, not even a distant species similar to. They have all been debunked.
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08-05-2024, 08:34 PM
#63
Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
Yeah but you don't actually have any proof of that
yes there is. humans were able to mate with them to some degree. we can detect neanderthal DNA (it's sequenced)
Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
The body is just a vehicle and a physical form. It's like how ATPase takes advantage of a proton gradient the same way as a water powered electricity generator.
what other animal has a hand? why are some humans born with tails? why are our facial features and sensory organs, genetalia, belly buttons in the exact same spot?
Physical bodies just look a certain way because they were made that way to harness and take advantage of the physical laws of the universe.
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08-05-2024, 08:34 PM
#64
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
id like to start at the post you just quoted and said "Nope..incorrect and proven false"
Nope..incorrect and proven false. Every missing link has been a proven fraud. Where would you like to start?
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08-05-2024, 08:40 PM
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Depends on the application. but humans are not animals
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Bro I expect theretardedape to make posts like these but you seem like a reasonable poster when I see you post. All your arguments ITT are very easliy refuted fyi but these last two comments….how can you expect to be taken seriously by people that believe in science and responded to in good faith?
Breastfeed like apes? LOOL
No. We have no relation to apes or monkeys whatsoever, not even a distant species similar to. They have all been debunked.
No. We have no relation to apes or monkeys whatsoever, not even a distant species similar to. They have all been debunked.
No offence about your beliefs, but you are leaving yourself open to being absolutely obliterated on a science based factual front.
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08-05-2024, 08:42 PM
#66
Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
sure..you are going to go with the argument that neanderthals and eurasians were mixed..right?
id like to start at the post you just quoted and said "Nope..incorrect and proven false"
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08-05-2024, 08:42 PM
#67
Originally Posted By Mulloway69⏩
RetardedOldApe would have been a better slur, but not everybody is as intelligent and creative as I.
Bro I expect theretardedape to make posts like these but you seem like a reasonable poster when I see you post. All your arguments ITT are very easliy refuted fyi but these last two comments….how can you expect to be taken seriously by people that believe in science and responded to in good faith?
No offence about your beliefs, but you are leaving yourself open to being absolutely obliterated on a science based factual front.
No offence about your beliefs, but you are leaving yourself open to being absolutely obliterated on a science based factual front.
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08-05-2024, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Mulloway69⏩
There is no such thing as a science based factual front. There is zero factual evidence in the THEORY of evolution. The entire theory bases its supposition on the big bang which even mainstream science can't defend.
Bro I expect theretardedape to make posts like these but you seem like a reasonable poster when I see you post. All your arguments ITT are very easliy refuted fyi but these last two comments….how can you expect to be taken seriously by people that believe in science and responded to in good faith?
No offence about your beliefs, but you are leaving yourself open to being absolutely obliterated on a science based factual front.
No offence about your beliefs, but you are leaving yourself open to being absolutely obliterated on a science based factual front.
You can't refute one single argument from the atheistic standpoint because your entry point of your theory doesn't exist. It can't exist. So even the mere idea of the theory of evolution, which just uses absurd amounts of made up time to give it gravitas, can't even be a theory. Unless of course you believe in a creator?
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08-05-2024, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Fair point. Clearly didnt give it as much thought as you would have preferred.
RetardedOldApe would have been a better slur, but not everybody is as intelligent and creative as I.
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08-05-2024, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
i am not an anthropologist. i know what i know and am not googling anything. the question was, why were there no other being capable of advanced reasoning, i responded that there were. after getting off track of that, i said neanderthal dna is sequenced and detectable in humans
sure..you are going to go with the argument that neanderthals and eurasians were mixed..right?
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08-05-2024, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Mulloway69⏩
I didn't give it much thought either, I just have style as a natural inclination. Something which you obviously lack, which is why you believe in something as absurd and autistic as the theory of evolution. BRB random mutations help a organism survive, whilst in 98% of cases random mutations in DNA cause problems such as cancers and misfolded proteins. LOL just LOL.
Fair point. Clearly didnt give it as much thought as you would have preferred.
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08-05-2024, 08:52 PM
#72
Originally Posted By Mulloway69⏩
Show me the evolutionary fossil lineage of ape to man (which is no longer even a contemporary belief..they had to abandon it fyi)
Bro I expect theretardedape to make posts like these but you seem like a reasonable poster when I see you post. All your arguments ITT are very easliy refuted fyi but these last two comments….how can you expect to be taken seriously by people that believe in science and responded to in good faith?
No offence about your beliefs, but you are leaving yourself open to being absolutely obliterated on a science based factual front.
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08-05-2024, 08:54 PM
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Also gotta love these arguments from authority, where 'the science' and 'believing in evolution' gives you some sort of authority. Meanwhile you just read some science articles and have never discovered anything in life anyway. Piggy backing off of other misinformed individual's opinions.
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08-05-2024, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
i did actually. i dicovered why a certain motorola cellphones camera was so chitty and was featured in a WSJ article
Also gotta love these arguments from authority, where 'the science' and 'believing in evolution' gives you some sort of authority. Meanwhile you just read some science articles and have never discovered anything in life anyway. Piggy backing off of other misinformed individual's opinions.
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08-05-2024, 08:58 PM
#75
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You're still arguing from a point of authority. I know because I'd done the same thing as an atheist. You basically think that you're superior to people who believe in God due to your intellect, yet you are ignorant to how retarded you are in other ways.
i did actually. i dicovered why a certain motorola cellphones camera was so chitty and was featured in a WSJ article
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08-05-2024, 09:00 PM
#76
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
i dont think i am superior.
You're still arguing from a point of authority. I know because I'd done the same thing as an atheist. You basically think that you're superior to people who believe in God due to your intellect, yet you are ignorant to how retarded you are in other ways.
i am just not arguing based on belief.
you guys see that there's a missing link or whatever and throw the whole theory away
but believe in magic instead
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08-05-2024, 09:07 PM
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You have no fossil lineage nor missing link, nor examples of macro evolution. Entropy goes against abiogenesis and a cell cannot even be reproduced in a laboratory setting. Before evolution can even start you have to have that first cell. Nobody has ever created one, nor come close, or even an idea of HOW to do so. Every year that target of making a cell becomes more complex and you are left with time of the gaps ..they will insert
'TIME
in their
GAPS
and say "time took care of this" which is an imposibility..if a mere protein does not form within 13 days it is obsolete..you are out of your element here.
i dont think i am superior.
i am just not arguing based on belief.
you guys see that there's a missing link or whatever and throw the whole theory away
but believe in magic instead
i am just not arguing based on belief.
you guys see that there's a missing link or whatever and throw the whole theory away
but believe in magic instead
A painting has a painter, a computer has a maker and a programer, a sculptor has an artist behind it..Life has a Creator. To believe anything but goes against all laws of logic.
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08-05-2024, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
It's not really just a belief. I have real world experience.
i dont think i am superior.
i am just not arguing based on belief.
you guys see that there's a missing link or whatever and throw the whole theory away
but believe in magic instead
i am just not arguing based on belief.
you guys see that there's a missing link or whatever and throw the whole theory away
but believe in magic instead
Pretty much everywhere you go on this planet, humans believe in the spiritual realm and in entities that reside there. This is not something that I made up, but it is something that I've experienced, and something that many many more before me have experienced.
Also you are arguing from a belief - you believe in the theory of evolution, so you're biased that way. If you didn't you'd think it was stupid and that it makes more sense for a creator to exist. Even science itself is recognising that reality is a creation, but they call it a simulation or an illusion, but whose illusion or simulation? Who says there bas to be a creator of the illusion I hear you ask? Great, now take God out of the equation and you have basic buddhism, taoism, and hinduism, with a scientific twist. I.e., it's just satanism.
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08-05-2024, 09:16 PM
#79
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
why do you call for perfect evidence when you have none yourself? and why when there is a clear pattern with some gap do you say the pattern must not be true?
You have no fossil lineage nor missing link, nor examples of macro evolution. Entropy goes against abiogenesis and a cell cannot even be reproduced in a laboratory setting. Before evolution can even start you have to have that first cell. Nobody has ever created one, nor come close, or even an idea of HOW to do so. Every year that target of making a cell becomes more complex and you are left with time of the gaps ..they will insert
'TIME
in their
GAPS
and say "time to ok care of this" which is an imposibility..if a mere protein does not form within 13 days it is obsolete..you are out of your element here.
2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, ___, ___, 18, 20, ___, 24, 26, 28, 30
no no! the sequence is definitely not the even numbers!
abiogenesis is a huge thing. it's really interesting and seems hard to crack. i'll grant you that. almost like alchemy
as far as time, we can't intimately comprehend what a billion years is. assuming you believed in evolution (I know you do not) humans weren't here a million years ago. how can we expect to fill in those gaps easily.
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08-05-2024, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
While all this is true, the funny part is that the easiest way to debunk it is to understand they don't have a working origin story to even start the process of the theory of evolution.
You have no fossil lineage nor missing link, nor examples of macro evolution. Entropy goes against abiogenesis and a cell cannot even be reproduced in a laboratory setting. Before evolution can even start you have to have that first cell. Nobody has ever created one, nor come close, or even an idea of HOW to do so. Every year that target of making a cell becomes more complex and you are left with time of the gaps ..they will insert
'TIME
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GAPS
and say "time to ok care of this" which is an imposibility..if a mere protein does not form within 13 days it is obsolete..you are out of your element here.
The theory of evolution was created in the 1800s to compete with creationism. They wanted to use "science" as their anti-God religious body to leverage on society.
The funniest part is that it works on a lot of people simply because there is a basis of truth to it.
All they did was create an absurd idea through a truthful foundation. They took the creation of life via childbirth and manifested it within the context of science and "evolution" to make it palpable. When you have sex with a woman, that is the divine spark (Big BANG). The man ejaculates and the semen reaches the egg to start life. The theory of evolution says that 4 billion years ago primordial OOZE comes to earth and is the origin of life on earth. A child starts going through a growing process from a sperm cell into various stages over a long period of 9 months until a baby is born. Theory of evolution is the promordial ooze over a long period of time goes through a constant metamorphosis until it creates a human. Voila.
Atheist will call God sky daddy or say life came from magic, but the theory of evolution is the belief in magic that goes through magical metamorphosis over time to create a magical being just because. They just stole the idea of birth and repackaged it to try to keep people from God so that they can have more control over people.
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08-05-2024, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
I don't believe in a "billions" of years old earth. This is an ongoing debate, and the evolutionist must always insert "time" for explanation not realizing that the very explanation they use works against them.
why do you call for perfect evidence when you have none yourself? and why when there is a clear pattern with some gap do you say the pattern must not be true?
2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, ___, ___, 18, 20, ___, 24, 26, 28, 30
no no! the sequence is definitely not the even numbers!
abiogenesis is a huge thing. it's really interesting and seems hard to crack. i'll grant you that. almost like alchemy
as far as time, we can't intimately comprehend what a billion years is. assuming you believed in evolution (I know you do not) humans weren't here a million years ago. how can we expect to fill in those gaps easily.
2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, ___, ___, 18, 20, ___, 24, 26, 28, 30
no no! the sequence is definitely not the even numbers!
abiogenesis is a huge thing. it's really interesting and seems hard to crack. i'll grant you that. almost like alchemy
as far as time, we can't intimately comprehend what a billion years is. assuming you believed in evolution (I know you do not) humans weren't here a million years ago. how can we expect to fill in those gaps easily.
I'll give you epigenetics..what you cannot prove is Macro evolution
I have a perfect explanation…and unlike yours, mine follows the laws of physics and science.
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08-05-2024, 09:25 PM
#82
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
I believe in my ability to see patterns (sorry, but again, evolution gave this to us). and i know that we are animals (by definition), we have striking similarity to apes, are sometimes born with tails, likewise have hands and feet, have the similar nutritional needs as apes (though apes prefer mostly vegetation), give birth the same as apes, take care of our young just like apes. chimps have the same gestational time as humans. how can you know this and ignore it
It's not really just a belief. I have real world experience.
Pretty much everywhere you go on this planet, humans believe in the spiritual realm and in entities that reside there. This is not something that I made up, but it is something that I've experienced, and something that many many more before me have experienced.
Also you are arguing from a belief - you believe in the theory of evolution, so you're biased that way. If you didn't you'd think it was stupid and that it makes more sense for a creator to exist. Even science itself is recognising that reality is a creation, but they call it a simulation or an illusion, but whose illusion or simulation? Who says there bas to be a creator of the illusion I hear you ask? Great, now take God out of the equation and you have basic buddhism, taoism, and hinduism, with a scientific twist. I.e., it's just satanism.
Pretty much everywhere you go on this planet, humans believe in the spiritual realm and in entities that reside there. This is not something that I made up, but it is something that I've experienced, and something that many many more before me have experienced.
Also you are arguing from a belief - you believe in the theory of evolution, so you're biased that way. If you didn't you'd think it was stupid and that it makes more sense for a creator to exist. Even science itself is recognising that reality is a creation, but they call it a simulation or an illusion, but whose illusion or simulation? Who says there bas to be a creator of the illusion I hear you ask? Great, now take God out of the equation and you have basic buddhism, taoism, and hinduism, with a scientific twist. I.e., it's just satanism.
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08-05-2024, 09:25 PM
#83
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
As I am sure you are aware, science is founded on empirical evidence and the rigorous testing of hypotheses. The scientific method is a systematic approach to acquiring knowledge about the natural world. There is an overwhelming body of evidence supporting countless scientific theories, from the laws of physics to the understanding of human biology.
There is no such thing as a science based factual front.
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Gross oversimplification. The theory of evolution is supported by an massive body of evidence from so many fields, including paleontology, genetics, embryology, and molecular biology. The fossil record, DNA analysis, and comparative anatomy all provide compelling support for the concept of common descent and the process of natural selection.
There is zero factual evidence in the THEORY of evolution.
Bro "THEORY" dopesnt mean uncertainty. In scientific terms, a theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Evolution is as well-supported a theory as gravity albeit gravity is a little more in your face and less forgiving to the doubters.
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Yes the theory of evolution does fit within the broader cosmological framework that includes the Big Bang but it's not dependent on it. The evidence for evolution is robust on it's own and so it's independent of the specific details of the universe's origin.
The entire theory bases its supposition on the big bang which even mainstream science can't defend.
Also the Big Bang theory is supported by a vast array of observational evidence, including the cosmic microwave background radiation, the abundance of light elements, and the redshift of distant galaxies. While there are still open questions about the very early universe, the overall framework of the Big Bang is well-established and inconcievably better defended than superstition.
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You are conflating atheism with the scientific theory. The evidence for the above theories stand on their own merit and do not require disproving the existence of a deity.
You can't refute one single argument from the atheistic standpoint because your entry point of your theory doesn't exist. It can't exist.
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This is a misunderstanding of both the nature of scientific inquiry and the concept of deep time. The age of the Earth is supported by multiple independent lines of evidence, including radiometric dating, geology, and paleontology. The vastness of geological time is a well-established fact.
So even the mere idea of the theory of evolution, which just uses absurd amounts of made up time to give it gravitas, can't even be a theory.
The claim that evolutionary time is "made up" is without foundation. The theory of evolution is based on observable phenomena and testable predictions, not arbitrary assumptions about time.
I appreciate your effort in finding meaning and understanding srs but your statements seem based on misconceptions and a fundamental misunderstanding of the scientific process. The theory of evolution is a cornerstone of modern biology, supported by an overwhelming body of evidence.
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Spoiler!
Unless of course you believe in a creator?
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08-05-2024, 09:25 PM
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I don't. I see no evidence for such a creator, and there are many inconsistencies in major religions.
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08-05-2024, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
While all this is true, the funny part is that the easiest way to debunk it is to understand they don't have a working origin story to even start the process of the theory of evolution.
The theory of evolution was created in the 1800s to compete with creationism. They wanted to use "science" as their anti-God religious body to leverage on society.
The funniest part is that it works on a lot of people simply because there is a basis of truth to it.
All they did was create an absurd idea through a truthful foundation. They took the creation of life via childbirth and manifested it within the context of science and "evolution" to make it palpable. When you have sex with a woman, that is the divine spark (Big BANG). The man ejaculates and the semen reaches the egg to start life. The theory of evolution says that 4 billion years ago primordial OOZE comes to earth and is the origin of life on earth. A child starts going through a growing process from a sperm cell into various stages over a long period of 9 months until a baby is born. Theory of evolution is the promordial ooze over a long period of time goes through a constant metamorphosis until it creates a human. Voila.
Atheist will call God sky daddy or say life came from magic, but the theory of evolution is the belief in magic that goes through magical metamorphosis over time to create a magical being just because. They just stole the idea of birth and repackaged it to try to keep people from God so that they can have more control over people.
The theory of evolution was created in the 1800s to compete with creationism. They wanted to use "science" as their anti-God religious body to leverage on society.
The funniest part is that it works on a lot of people simply because there is a basis of truth to it.
All they did was create an absurd idea through a truthful foundation. They took the creation of life via childbirth and manifested it within the context of science and "evolution" to make it palpable. When you have sex with a woman, that is the divine spark (Big BANG). The man ejaculates and the semen reaches the egg to start life. The theory of evolution says that 4 billion years ago primordial OOZE comes to earth and is the origin of life on earth. A child starts going through a growing process from a sperm cell into various stages over a long period of 9 months until a baby is born. Theory of evolution is the promordial ooze over a long period of time goes through a constant metamorphosis until it creates a human. Voila.
Atheist will call God sky daddy or say life came from magic, but the theory of evolution is the belief in magic that goes through magical metamorphosis over time to create a magical being just because. They just stole the idea of birth and repackaged it to try to keep people from God so that they can have more control over people.
Couldn't have said it better. Big Bang theory is absurd on it's very premise. How can they say that there was a big bang when the poorest type of insulator is outer space because there is nothing space to insulate the heat, a big bang could not have occurred is because no amount of gravity can pull all matter into one infinitesimal region by any stretch of the imagination because the pressures exerting outward are thousands of times greater than the gravity pulling the matter in…Think atheist..think
Edit..Mullway.. the Big Bang did not occur, the red shift only proves the universe had a beginning, same with back ground radiation echo..
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08-05-2024, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
any explanation is 'god did it' if you can't offer another reasonable explaiantion, right?
I don't believe in a "billions" of years old earth. This is an ongoing debate, and the evolutionist must always insert "time" for explanation not realizing that the very explanation they use works against them.
I'll give you epigenetics..what you cannot prove is Macro evolution
I have a perfect explanation…and unlike yours, mine follows the laws of physics and science.
I'll give you epigenetics..what you cannot prove is Macro evolution
I have a perfect explanation…and unlike yours, mine follows the laws of physics and science.
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08-05-2024, 09:28 PM
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I personally don't have an issue with a big bang as a mechanism for the creation of the physical universe. To me it would have just been the manifestation of physical reality from God's energies. To me it doesn't actually matter, because we are living in a creation. Whether you call it a big bang or whatever you want, we exist and the universe exists.
The bible is pretty explicit in saying that the universe is a creation, and the only thing before creation is God, who is immaterial. So it makes sense to me when the science is basically saying that reality is just an illusion created by the intersection of varied and opposing forces. God sends his energies and does His thing and kaboom, you have the universe, in all is glory.
Science has basically acknowledged that reality is an illusion/simulation and then says that it isn't any person's illusion/simulation. My issue is when scientists then say, "who says God has to exist for this to occur" and to anybody who knows, this is satanism 101 and it's how sanatana dharma and other flavours of paganism explains creation. It's actually just idolatry. Don't believe me? Research it yourself.
The bible is pretty explicit in saying that the universe is a creation, and the only thing before creation is God, who is immaterial. So it makes sense to me when the science is basically saying that reality is just an illusion created by the intersection of varied and opposing forces. God sends his energies and does His thing and kaboom, you have the universe, in all is glory.
Science has basically acknowledged that reality is an illusion/simulation and then says that it isn't any person's illusion/simulation. My issue is when scientists then say, "who says God has to exist for this to occur" and to anybody who knows, this is satanism 101 and it's how sanatana dharma and other flavours of paganism explains creation. It's actually just idolatry. Don't believe me? Research it yourself.
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08-05-2024, 09:29 PM
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so then why do stars explode
Couldn't have said it better. Big Bang theory is absurd on it's very premise. How can they say that there was a big bang when the poorest type of insulator is outer space because there is nothing space to insulate the heat, a big bang could not have occurred is because no amount of gravity can pull all matter into one infinitesimal region by any stretch of the imagination because the pressures exerting outward are thousands of times greater than the gravity pulling the matter in…Think atheist..think
Edit..Mullway.. the Big Bang did not occur, the red shift only proves the universe had a beginning, same with back ground radiation echo..
Edit..Mullway.. the Big Bang did not occur, the red shift only proves the universe had a beginning, same with back ground radiation echo..
edit: also seems like you misunderstand what the big bang is. it resulted in the creation of both space and time. there was nothing outside of it. no space. imagine a firecracker inside of a balloon. the balloon itself and outside the balloon don't exist. the universe is the shockwave of the firecracker and its matter in the interior of the balloon
how this happened? i don't believe it at all. same as saying 'god did it'
but it does predict things which makes it a useful model
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08-05-2024, 09:35 PM
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There is fossil and genetic evidence (non-linear). Not to mention behavioural and physical similarities, blows me away that people still can argue otherwise srs bro.
Show me the evolutionary fossil lineage of ape to man (which is no longer even a contemporary belief..they had to abandon it fyi)
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08-05-2024, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Mulloway69⏩
Sure, we sh*t and eat, but show us the civilization that the apes created. I'll be waiting.
There is fossil and genetic evidence (non-linear). Not to mention behavioural and physical similarities, blows me away that people still can argue otherwise srs bro.
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