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08-13-2024, 08:26 PM
#61
Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
Definitely not anymore, but in the past that is definitely something that could have happened. I had some pretty serious medical stuff back when I didn't have a job, and was below $1000 net worth in my early 20s and that was a tough experience.
It can all be wiped out in one emergency.
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08-13-2024, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
But you could have just moved back in with your parents, I assume they weren’t dead or homeless
Definitely not anymore, but in the past that is definitely something that could have happened. I had some pretty serious medical stuff back when I didn't have a job, and was below $1000 net worth in my early 20s and that was a tough experience.
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08-13-2024, 08:29 PM
#63
Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
I guess technically, but it would take some catastrophic event. But all of my wealth is insured, so even if a Nuclear Bomb went off and destroyed my family properties, I'd still get paid.
People can have everything wiped out in 1 disaster. It can happen to you.
It can still happen.
It can still happen.
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08-13-2024, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Nah, they're still not dead or homeless.
But you could have just moved back in with your parents, I assume they weren’t dead or homeless
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08-13-2024, 08:35 PM
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It depends what you do for work. If you have your own business or you're self-employed then that would probably be a good idea.
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08-13-2024, 08:38 PM
#66
Originally Posted By Briangumble⏩
Even if you aren’t self employed, if you’re in a field where there is an opportunity to become self employed and make bank at some point you need to essentially speed run your experience and knowledge to get to that point. You also need to make and save the money required to start said business
It depends what you do for work. If you have your own business or you're self-employed then that would probably be a good idea.
You ain’t getting investors to help you start an electrical company or a flooring business or a consulting firm lol
Edit: when I started my real estate brokerage I spent easily $50k right away and then had another $50k on hand for earnest money and this was a small business
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08-13-2024, 09:00 PM
#67
Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
Is that why poor people stay poor? Because of a disaster? Or is it because they make bad decisions? It's the bad decisions.
People can have everything wiped out in 1 disaster. It can happen to you.
It can still happen.
It can still happen.
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08-13-2024, 09:27 PM
#68
Without going to the extremes he's mentioning, I don't disagree with the grinding while you're young enough to do it.
I worked 60-70 hour weeks in the office from 22-26(ish) when I was first starting out my career.
32 now earning 160k + car + yearly bonus and I work 35-40 hours a week, not working nearly as hard as I did back then. I actually spend a fair bit of time doing social media and things for the business I run outside of work while I'm in the office. Life on pretty easy mode now.
I worked 60-70 hour weeks in the office from 22-26(ish) when I was first starting out my career.
32 now earning 160k + car + yearly bonus and I work 35-40 hours a week, not working nearly as hard as I did back then. I actually spend a fair bit of time doing social media and things for the business I run outside of work while I'm in the office. Life on pretty easy mode now.
08-13-2024, 10:24 PM
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Boyos, let's look at a case study of a successful business model:
Step 1: Film people acting like buffoons in public
Step 2: Monetize those videos by uploading to youtube or your own website
Step 3: Get rich from the ad revenue
Does this sound familiar? It should, because it's the business model of World Star Hip Hop. WSHH gets hundreds of millions of views per month and makes a ton of money off the ad revenue. And since they don't actually have any profit sharing agreements with the uploaders or the buffoons doing stupid sh/t in public, they get to keep all of the revenue.
Or how about OnlyFans? OF monetizes women's natural affinity for sloot behavior and men's natural affinity for SIMP behavior and got rich as f/ck in the process.
Now let me ask you: did the founders of WSHH or OnlyFans "work hard"…?????… HELL NO, at most they invested maybe $20K in server equipment and paid some pajeets to code the website.
Meanwhile, you boyos are sitting here listening to life coaches telling you to "work harder"… which is essentially telling you to run faster in your little hamster wheel.
Boyos, have some muthaf/cking self-respect… stop taking these redpill life coaches seriously.. they're just entertainment (at best).
Step 1: Film people acting like buffoons in public
Step 2: Monetize those videos by uploading to youtube or your own website
Step 3: Get rich from the ad revenue
Does this sound familiar? It should, because it's the business model of World Star Hip Hop. WSHH gets hundreds of millions of views per month and makes a ton of money off the ad revenue. And since they don't actually have any profit sharing agreements with the uploaders or the buffoons doing stupid sh/t in public, they get to keep all of the revenue.
Or how about OnlyFans? OF monetizes women's natural affinity for sloot behavior and men's natural affinity for SIMP behavior and got rich as f/ck in the process.
Now let me ask you: did the founders of WSHH or OnlyFans "work hard"…?????… HELL NO, at most they invested maybe $20K in server equipment and paid some pajeets to code the website.
Meanwhile, you boyos are sitting here listening to life coaches telling you to "work harder"… which is essentially telling you to run faster in your little hamster wheel.
Boyos, have some muthaf/cking self-respect… stop taking these redpill life coaches seriously.. they're just entertainment (at best).
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08-13-2024, 10:26 PM
#70
Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Desire leads to intent and intent leads to action.
Many Miscers seethe at the OP but they'll spend their early 20s playing games and raging online at successful folks who put the work in.
Indeed they lack the mental fortitude, but I do wonder what sort of parents they had. Worse, what sort of parents they are or will become.
Indeed they lack the mental fortitude, but I do wonder what sort of parents they had. Worse, what sort of parents they are or will become.
If somebody could just give them $10m, they would take it, but they don't desire it enough to take the actions necessary to acquire it.
There is a huge caveat, in that the majority of people do not possible sufficient ability to reach that level. We are talking about a 0.01% outcome, so they have to be better than the other 9999 people.
With that stipulation, many people are too comfortable rotting. They have racked up 10k hours on WoW or some other game, when 10k hours, spent doing anything vaguely productive would have given them at least 6 figures.
Their desire to play that game is greater than their desire for those 6 figures. They simply don't want it enough.
They will of course complain that they can't buy a house, which those 6 figures would have solved, but hey, they got a virtual house which they spent 1k hours decorating.
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08-14-2024, 06:57 AM
#71
Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
The self made is the biggest bunch of bullchit
Many Miscers seethe at the OP but they'll spend their early 20s playing games and raging online at successful folks who put the work in.
Indeed they lack the mental fortitude, but I do wonder what sort of parents they had. Worse, what sort of parents they are or will become.
Indeed they lack the mental fortitude, but I do wonder what sort of parents they had. Worse, what sort of parents they are or will become.
That was my first learning when i went out at 18 and my parents lost chitloads during the recession
The people at that job were working harder jobs 40 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour
I looked around like.. "dam* these people arent lazy". Theyre busting their butt continually showing up at a chitty job. But what are they going to do? Sometimes you are that stuck
Whereas others scoff at the suggestion
It aint just about work
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08-14-2024, 07:07 AM
#72
Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
But the major flaw in your idea is that your butt is still in the seat for 9 hours. WFH you might have a point. But still having to go to the office 5 days a week for 9 hours is considered winning?
Boyo, you have much to learn.
If you were to open up the calanders of all the execs in your company, you'll see that their entire day is blocked off with meetings - all day EVERY day.
They're not working, they just fill their calendars with meetings to pretend like they're working.
The only people who actually do work, or pride themselves on being "team players" or "results-driven", are the schmucks that we LOL at while we spend our days jerking off to pr0n and getting paid for it.
As I have always said: if you're earning your paycheck, you're failing miserably at the game of life.
If you were to open up the calanders of all the execs in your company, you'll see that their entire day is blocked off with meetings - all day EVERY day.
They're not working, they just fill their calendars with meetings to pretend like they're working.
The only people who actually do work, or pride themselves on being "team players" or "results-driven", are the schmucks that we LOL at while we spend our days jerking off to pr0n and getting paid for it.
As I have always said: if you're earning your paycheck, you're failing miserably at the game of life.
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08-14-2024, 07:17 AM
#73
Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
keep in mind everything he does is a money making machine. hes got sales funnel after sales funnel. all his youtube videos, seminars, self help chit, he writes books that his youtube audience feeds, etc., etc.
This is what I always assume when I see these type of guys. If they knew so much and were so successful then they wouldn't still be hustling their ass off trying to scrape together a few dollars selling their advice. Same with stock market gurus. Anyone that really "made it" would be chilling on their yacht or on a beach somewhere….you don't see actual CEO's or hedge fund managers begging for subs and likes, and running discord channels.
keep in mind everything he does is a money making machine. hes got sales funnel after sales funnel. all his youtube videos, seminars, self help chit, he writes books that his youtube audience feeds, etc., etc.
08-14-2024, 07:18 AM
#74
Yes.
I work 7 days a week.
Sometimes I don't even sleep between shifts in preparation for the next day lol.
I work 7 days a week.
Sometimes I don't even sleep between shifts in preparation for the next day lol.
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08-14-2024, 07:21 AM
#75
Originally Posted By WeBoutDat⏩
I don't sell my advice, I give it away to those in need for free, my time is worth more than my money and it is the most valuable thing I can give someone.
This is what I always assume when I see these type of guys. If they knew so much and were so successful then they wouldn't still be hustling their ass off trying to scrape together a few dollars selling their advice. Same with stock market gurus. Anyone that really "made it" would be chilling on their yacht or on a beach somewhere….you don't see actual CEO's or hedge fund managers begging for subs and likes, and running discord channels.
When you reach a certain level financially and intellectually you tend to turn to philanthropy.
It's natural progression.
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08-14-2024, 07:22 AM
#76
Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Working a job is lazy though.
The self made is the biggest bunch of bullchit
That was my first learning when i went out at 18 and my parents lost chitloads during the recession
The people at that job were working harder jobs 40 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour
I looked around like.. "dam* these people arent lazy". Theyre busting their butt continually showing up at a chitty job. But what are they going to do? Sometimes you are that stuck
Whereas others scoff at the suggestion
It aint just about work
That was my first learning when i went out at 18 and my parents lost chitloads during the recession
The people at that job were working harder jobs 40 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour
I looked around like.. "dam* these people arent lazy". Theyre busting their butt continually showing up at a chitty job. But what are they going to do? Sometimes you are that stuck
Whereas others scoff at the suggestion
It aint just about work
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08-14-2024, 07:22 AM
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I'd rather work M-F 7-3.30 and be middle class
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08-14-2024, 07:51 AM
#78
Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Actual hard work is for beasts of burden, humans have the capacity for more than just moving heavy things. They may not be lazy, but they're probably quite unintelligent.
The self made is the biggest bunch of bullchit
That was my first learning when i went out at 18 and my parents lost chitloads during the recession
The people at that job were working harder jobs 40 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour
I looked around like.. "dam* these people arent lazy". Theyre busting their butt continually showing up at a chitty job. But what are they going to do? Sometimes you are that stuck
Whereas others scoff at the suggestion
It aint just about work
That was my first learning when i went out at 18 and my parents lost chitloads during the recession
The people at that job were working harder jobs 40 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour
I looked around like.. "dam* these people arent lazy". Theyre busting their butt continually showing up at a chitty job. But what are they going to do? Sometimes you are that stuck
Whereas others scoff at the suggestion
It aint just about work
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08-14-2024, 08:21 AM
#79
He has a point. 12x6 might be a bit much but while you are young you stay out of BS and gain skill/experience and start building wealth.
Gen Z, most of them don't want to work at all or just like 30hrs a week. Most are waiting until they are over 18 to even get any job. Some are waiting even longer. So they look like idiots and have failed to launch.
Here is another take. Being dumb, making mistakes, not having much skill is expected of someone who is in their teens and early 20's. Yeah, still might get some chit but it's expected, there is more tolerance and forgiveness. 25-30 you should have experience and some skills although you might still make mistakes and not be highly skilled but as long as you have a foundation you are okay. 35-40 and you have no job skills and fuk up a lot, nobody is going to invest into you because you've proven that you're worthless idiot incapable of learning. 40+ you need to be damn near an expert in your field. If you aren't solid by then, there is no help.
On the flip, if you are young but highly skilled it looks even better. Say you are 28-30 and already highly accomplished holding positions that people 40-50 usually have then people know you have serious potential.
Bottom line: You don't rise to the occasion. You won't be a slacker until that "right" job comes along and then you will step it up. Being a slacker is a trait. So these quiet quitters are literally sealing their own fate to a dead end job and no satisfaction. Whatever you are doing, do it to the max and use that to move up, or move up and out. It's amazing how others who are also moving up and out know who they want to recommend and take with them.
Gen Z, most of them don't want to work at all or just like 30hrs a week. Most are waiting until they are over 18 to even get any job. Some are waiting even longer. So they look like idiots and have failed to launch.
Here is another take. Being dumb, making mistakes, not having much skill is expected of someone who is in their teens and early 20's. Yeah, still might get some chit but it's expected, there is more tolerance and forgiveness. 25-30 you should have experience and some skills although you might still make mistakes and not be highly skilled but as long as you have a foundation you are okay. 35-40 and you have no job skills and fuk up a lot, nobody is going to invest into you because you've proven that you're worthless idiot incapable of learning. 40+ you need to be damn near an expert in your field. If you aren't solid by then, there is no help.
On the flip, if you are young but highly skilled it looks even better. Say you are 28-30 and already highly accomplished holding positions that people 40-50 usually have then people know you have serious potential.
Bottom line: You don't rise to the occasion. You won't be a slacker until that "right" job comes along and then you will step it up. Being a slacker is a trait. So these quiet quitters are literally sealing their own fate to a dead end job and no satisfaction. Whatever you are doing, do it to the max and use that to move up, or move up and out. It's amazing how others who are also moving up and out know who they want to recommend and take with them.
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08-14-2024, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
But the major flaw in your idea is that your butt is still in the seat for 9 hours. WFH you might have a point. But still having to go to the office 5 days a week for 9 hours is considered winning?
I don't go into the office at all… In fact, this is my working hours right now, I'm getting paid to type this reply.
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08-14-2024, 09:00 AM
#81
Originally Posted By OliverHomeless⏩
Your mindset is that a disaster leads to a financial loss
I guess technically, but it would take some catastrophic event. But all of my wealth is insured, so even if a Nuclear Bomb went off and destroyed my family properties, I'd still get paid.
Which explains why you’re poor
By contrast I made millions from the COVID property boom
While you were sitting with your thumb in your ass waiting for the housing market to crash
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08-14-2024, 09:10 AM
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100% agree with that. In 10 years the world is going to be ****, 80% of men on their 30's and 40's gonna be broke and paycheck to paycheck, no home of their own, no way to take care of a woman let alone kids etc
Any smart 16 year old kids that starts grinding now, toughens it up for the next decade or so, forgets about videogames, drugs, and **** for a while, that kid is going to be a king then. I believe polyamorous relationship gonna be a norm by then, and a man with his **** together gonna be enjoying a lot of the new fuked up world dynamics.
Any smart 16 year old kids that starts grinding now, toughens it up for the next decade or so, forgets about videogames, drugs, and **** for a while, that kid is going to be a king then. I believe polyamorous relationship gonna be a norm by then, and a man with his **** together gonna be enjoying a lot of the new fuked up world dynamics.
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08-14-2024, 11:23 AM
#83
Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
Your post is as confused as your mental state.
Says the guy who wanted to quit his day job to stream Diablo lmao. And you had a great day job. I guess the grass is always greener.
But I suppose my post really triggered something deep in you - it does with most losercels on this forum. It took you mere minutes to reply to that post - what is it about successful persons like me that triggers you?
In another lifetime I could see myself running my own artisanal bakery / bread and breakfast in hiking areas in the UK - do you think that, because I am not that person, my life is worse off? It isn't - I'm such a hedonist I could live many different lives and be happy. You?
Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
I don't knock people who play games - I do. But there was a difference between the folks who failed out of college due to WoW addictions, and those who played as a hobby. It's a very different thing to get paid / make a living playing games, than it is to spend dozens of hours a week
to the detriment of your other plans
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Desire leads to intent and intent leads to action.
If somebody could just give them $10m, they would take it, but they don't desire it enough to take the actions necessary to acquire it.
There is a huge caveat, in that the majority of people do not possible sufficient ability to reach that level. We are talking about a 0.01% outcome, so they have to be better than the other 9999 people.
With that stipulation, many people are too comfortable rotting. They have racked up 10k hours on WoW or some other game, when 10k hours, spent doing anything vaguely productive would have given them at least 6 figures.
Their desire to play that game is greater than their desire for those 6 figures. They simply don't want it enough.
They will of course complain that they can't buy a house, which those 6 figures would have solved, but hey, they got a virtual house which they spent 1k hours decorating.
If somebody could just give them $10m, they would take it, but they don't desire it enough to take the actions necessary to acquire it.
There is a huge caveat, in that the majority of people do not possible sufficient ability to reach that level. We are talking about a 0.01% outcome, so they have to be better than the other 9999 people.
With that stipulation, many people are too comfortable rotting. They have racked up 10k hours on WoW or some other game, when 10k hours, spent doing anything vaguely productive would have given them at least 6 figures.
Their desire to play that game is greater than their desire for those 6 figures. They simply don't want it enough.
They will of course complain that they can't buy a house, which those 6 figures would have solved, but hey, they got a virtual house which they spent 1k hours decorating.
But many of these folks are *have nots*. And that socioeconomic group doesn't really know what to do with money when they have it. So it's a difficult situation they are in - even some who do 'move up' find themselves stuck with expenditure patterns they inherited from their parents (or lack thereof) and they remain poor.
Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Nobody is saying it is just 'work harder'. But many - including on this forum - are incapable of committing to something in the first place. That's what I'm getting at. You don't even have to be a multimillionaire to be happy.
The self made is the biggest bunch of bullchit
That was my first learning when i went out at 18 and my parents lost chitloads during the recession
The people at that job were working harder jobs 40 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour
I looked around like.. "dam* these people arent lazy". Theyre busting their butt continually showing up at a chitty job. But what are they going to do? Sometimes you are that stuck
Whereas others scoff at the suggestion
It aint just about work
That was my first learning when i went out at 18 and my parents lost chitloads during the recession
The people at that job were working harder jobs 40 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour
I looked around like.. "dam* these people arent lazy". Theyre busting their butt continually showing up at a chitty job. But what are they going to do? Sometimes you are that stuck
Whereas others scoff at the suggestion
It aint just about work
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08-14-2024, 11:47 AM
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Fuller, more well rounded life –> 4 day work week, old fashioned republican values. See source:
08-14-2024, 11:54 AM
#85
Originally Posted By MegaSloot⏩
You can get that now. All of our guys do 4-10s and 3 days off. You just gotta be good enough to demand it and not be laughed out of the room.
Fuller, more well rounded life –> 4 day work week, old fashioned republican values. See source:
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08-14-2024, 12:28 PM
#86
Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
Both my wife and I worked 80+ hours for a couple years in big law. It’s absolutely brutal. When you start having to budget time to take a shower or brush your teeth you realllllly stop caring how much money is being made.
I personally did 80 hours a week for 20+ years and then cut down to 40 when having a kid.
When guys are young, single, don't have kids and spend their freetime playing xbox and watching netflix/porn, then yes, working more hours than they do is a good idea. They will be in a better long term financial position and can cut back when they have a family.
As to whether 72 hours a week is a good idea for everybody? Most people can't hack those hours. They simply don't have the mental fortitude for it.
When guys are young, single, don't have kids and spend their freetime playing xbox and watching netflix/porn, then yes, working more hours than they do is a good idea. They will be in a better long term financial position and can cut back when they have a family.
As to whether 72 hours a week is a good idea for everybody? Most people can't hack those hours. They simply don't have the mental fortitude for it.
08-14-2024, 12:40 PM
#87
Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Right. But to be clear, not everyone 'works' the hours they claim to. Big law is brutal - I know folks who burned out and went into other legal adviser-related jobs. But this is also true for some types of consulting, investment banking, asset management - it depends.
Both my wife and I worked 80+ hours for a couple years in big law. It’s absolutely brutal. When you start having to budget time to take a shower or brush your teeth you realllllly stop caring how much money is being made.
There are folks on this forum who are security guards and work nights at some storage facility, spamming Misc and all that. In the video posted above, they make it sound like Americans are the hardest working work force in the world.
That's laughable. And I'm not just talking about menial jobs - and even those here in the USA have many lazy/rotting types; I'm talking about elite jobs, too. Source: friends who are consultants in Europe who were asked to come "help" the same firm's teams here - lol.
Japan even had working Saturdays for a long time. There needs to be a serious reality check here, because the folks thinking that they work the hardest often don't. Big law is an exception, not the rule.
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08-14-2024, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Many of the traditional "professional" routes to being highly paid do it (law, medicine, finance etc) because it works. You get the most brutal stuff out the way when you are as young as possible and have the least commitments outside of work, which sets you up for the rest of your career.
Both my wife and I worked 80+ hours for a couple years in big law. It’s absolutely brutal. When you start having to budget time to take a shower or brush your teeth you realllllly stop caring how much money is being made.
Most people can't hack it in those professions, but they should be learning the lessons from them.
Many fresh graduates want to work 30 hour, 4 day weeks WFH. As life happens, and things get in the way, they aren't going to want to up their workloads when they are older.
Your career has something similar to compound interest where, just as with retirement plans, the more you put towards it and the earlier you do so, the better off you are.
If people are young, single, don't have kids and do nothing after work except play games and watch porn/netflix, they would be better off working more (not saying 80 hours a week, but a couple of years of 60 hours won't kill them) so that they can then work less hours when they do have wives, kids etc
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08-14-2024, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
All I’m qualified to speak about professionally is law - and this isn’t true. In Big Law you get hired effectively after your first year of three in law school. You work as an associate making the firm huge profits and your path is to either 1) become middle management and work harder, both reporting up to the partners and managing the associates, or maybe 2) become a partner - and work even more.
Many of the traditional "professional" routes to being highly paid do it (law, medicine, finance etc) because it works. You get the most brutal stuff out the way when you are as young as possible and have the least commitments outside of work, which sets you up for the rest of your career.
Maybe other industries are better, but my own life has taught me that the only way out is to work for far less money later in your career.
08-14-2024, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
You are indeed correct.
Boyo, you have much to learn.
If you were to open up the calanders of all the execs in your company, you'll see that their entire day is blocked off with meetings - all day EVERY day.
They're not working, they just fill their calendars with meetings to pretend like they're working.
If you were to open up the calanders of all the execs in your company, you'll see that their entire day is blocked off with meetings - all day EVERY day.
They're not working, they just fill their calendars with meetings to pretend like they're working.
I sit now just below Senior Management Team for a Company, my direct line manager answers to the CFO and both of them (I can see the diary) do **** all but meetings. I literally have 3 "meeting days" which are amusing, time before and after to prepare for the meeting and 2 "work from home days". But I do all the work in the meetings and have 2 extra days off.
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