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post 1629093043 01-19-2021, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Travis99⏩
BRB taxing you for money you have made yet. Makes total sense.
Yellen specifically said Unrealized:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29O1WX

This is pure insanity if this article is accurate. And why is the fed getting involved in our tax code???
post 1629093363 01-19-2021, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
CCIV 2 tha moon AH.
It’s because of some Bloomberg terminal screenshot.
post 1629093373 01-19-2021, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
Heard a rumor that they might start taxing unrealized cap gains.....this can't be true, right? That would be an investment disaster. Investing is one of the best ways the poors can build something, the rich are already chillin'.
This literally couldn't happen. That would be like taxing you before you even showed up to work. You know, taxing in anticipation of gains... impossible.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Any reason you think the merger vote won't go through for GHIV? Small risk I suppose, I got in in the mid $12s. Apparently this one is being pinned down quite a bit btw
No, but who knows with SPACs. If it gets delayed for whatever reason, it will send it down for sure.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I have a feeling that if it goes through, what they will do is make it so that whatever unrealized gains you’re holding at the end of the year will be taxed.It wouldnt make sense to make it a daily ordeal since you can only deduct $3k of loss each year.. if it was daily, that would pretty much kill the market. Retarded idea.
Just to be abundantly clear for all new comers, the $3k cap is if you are in the hole at the end of the year, and your losses are above $3k.

If I had positive trades in the amount of $100k, and negative trades in the amount of $40k, I would have realized gains of $60k, as in I will only be taxed on $60k not 100k. If you had $40k of positive trades, and $60k of negative trades, then you not only don't have any taxable gains, but you can deduct $3k of your -$20k net. The remaining $17k will roll forward etc.
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post 1629093613 01-19-2021, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains⏩
It’s because of some Bloomberg terminal screenshot.
Yep. Bloomberg gonna fuk around and give me some solid gains if they keep this up.
post 1629093763 01-19-2021, 05:57 PM
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Lettuce be real tea for a minute - the banking industry has far too much lobbying power to stop democrats from pushing such a bill through. Politicians themselves are heavily invested in the markets I’d imagine, they’d be shooting themselves in the foot voting this unrealized gains taxation in
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post 1629094723 01-19-2021, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Lettuce be real tea for a minute - the banking industry has far too much lobbying power to stop democrats from pushing such a bill through. Politicians themselves are heavily invested in the markets I’d imagine, they’d be shooting themselves in the foot voting this unrealized gains taxation in
Zero chance of this going through.
post 1629095153 01-19-2021, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Lettuce be real tea for a minute - the banking industry has far too much lobbying power to stop democrats from pushing such a bill through. Politicians themselves are heavily invested in the markets I’d imagine, they’d be shooting themselves in the foot voting this unrealized gains taxation in
Just a couple thoughts:

There would be zero incentive to be long a position. Depending on the frequency of the taxing, it could mean a HUGE increase in selling, because, why not? This will create volatility and prevent growth if there is consistent churning.

What about people who don't have money to pay these taxes, and that plays a role as to why they are long? In order to pay your taxes, you would either have to sell some of your gainers (which is a huge fukkin issue right there) or seek additional financial assistance.
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post 1629095313 01-19-2021, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
Yellen specifically said Unrealized:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29O1WX

This is pure insanity if this article is accurate. And why is the fed getting involved in our tax code???
"Act big" now to save economy,worry about debt later, Yellen says in Treasury testimony”




Literally what poor people and children say.

Our country is fuked, I’m moving to Sweden
There is no they…
post 1629096083 01-19-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Travis99⏩
"Act big" now to save economy,worry about debt later, Yellen says in Treasury testimony”




Literally what poor people and children say.

Our country is fuked, I’m moving to Sweden
I'm literally taking German through a local community college right now. Dream is to move to Vienna in 5-10 years max.
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post 1629098103 01-19-2021, 06:40 PM
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oh here we go again fed chair wanna be pretending like debt is issue right now.


when it was said last election by rep/dem we must make apple / amazon etc pay their fare of tax instead of creating tax heavens in Ireland or some other place.

everyone was on board but now raising tax rate on corporations is big no no. because reagan trickle down are amazing success.

bezos really sits up all night thinking how he can make his workers earn more.


meanwhile automation is going to kill 40 percent of jobs and without universal income there will be such gap in equality you won't have middle class. going to be poverty and upper 5% class.


economy is still bleeding but lets talk about debt.

Unemployment data shows worrisome trends

https://www.axios.com/covid-pandemic...85b2de8aa.html
post 1629098553 01-19-2021, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
Wow I am stunned. But thank you.

Hope you banked.
We all about that cash here bruh!!! Politics belong in politics. No red and blue here. Only green!!

I've made 20k off your picks.
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post 1629099043 01-19-2021, 06:50 PM
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Up about $4k today. Good day.
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post 1629099923 01-19-2021, 07:01 PM
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post 1629100133 01-19-2021, 07:03 PM
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the hype on cciv lucid is getting bit scary tbh.


all it would need hindenburg research to rip lucid apart after merger and bunch of us would be left bag holding.
post 1629100813 01-19-2021, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Just a couple thoughts:

There would be zero incentive to be long a position. Depending on the frequency of the taxing, it could mean a HUGE increase in selling, because, why not? This will create volatility and prevent growth if there is consistent churning.

What about people who don't have money to pay these taxes, and that plays a role as to why they are long? In order to pay your taxes, you would either have to sell some of your gainers (which is a huge fukkin issue right there) or seek additional financial assistance.
It's hurting my brain trying to figure out how share prices would even move. All technical analysis fundamentals would be useless at that point.. the person who thought of this idea clearly has no idea what the fook they're asking for
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post 1629100983 01-19-2021, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
oh here we go again fed chair wanna be pretending like debt is issue right now.


when it was said last election by rep/dem we must make apple / amazon etc pay their fare of tax instead of creating tax heavens in Ireland or some other place.

everyone was on board but now raising tax rate on corporations is big no no. because reagan trickle down are amazing success.

bezos really sits up all night thinking how he can make his workers earn more.


meanwhile automation is going to kill 40 percent of jobs and without universal income there will be such gap in equality you won't have middle class. going to be poverty and upper 5% class.


economy is still bleeding but lets talk about debt.

Unemployment data shows worrisome trends

https://www.axios.com/covid-pandemic...85b2de8aa.html
All good bro, we're going to reopen 100% once vaccines are distributed. Surely there won't be another pandemic or disaster that keeps us locked down. Surely politicians and world leaders won't desire to implement even more draconian measures to control the population.
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post 1629101043 01-19-2021, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
the hype on cciv lucid is getting bit scary tbh.


all it would need hindenburg research to rip lucid apart after merger and bunch of us would be left bag holding.
I'm more inclined to worry about whether or not a merger will be confirmed than Hindenberg, Lucid's management team is pretty legit, not getting a Nikola vibe from them.
post 1629101433 01-19-2021, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
I'm more inclined to worry about whether or not a merger will be confirmed than Hindenberg, Lucid's management team is pretty legit, not getting a Nikola vibe from them.
Agreed. Even in Nikola's case, it had a massive run-up before finally getting exposed. And the stock is still somehow over $20.

If the merger goes through, I don't think there's much risk unless you FOMO in at $50 or something.
post 1629102483 01-19-2021, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains⏩
Agreed. Even in Nikola's case, it had a massive run-up before finally getting exposed. And the stock is still somehow over $20.

If the merger goes through, I don't think there's much risk unless you FOMO in at $50 or something.
I think there’s so much hype around CCIV that if it doesn’t go it’ll flop to $12..

I prob will wait for the actual announcement and then fomo in, considering I bought VTIQ at like $32 after it was announced.
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post 1629102733 01-19-2021, 07:35 PM
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I made up any losses I made on Friday but couldn’t trade any more due to PDT feels bad man.
post 1629102873 01-19-2021, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
I'm more inclined to worry about whether or not a merger will be confirmed than Hindenberg, Lucid's management team is pretty legit, not getting a Nikola vibe from them.
True on that part, just want this to go through and exit with gains.


I am just thinking it will trade very volatility after they merge because it soo hyped up.

Lucid delivery starts April.

One bad magazine review could cause panic. It would spread on twitter/reddit/discord etc


Other day Ford dropped right away as soon they made announcement that mach e mustang will delayed.
post 1629103273 01-19-2021, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
True on that part, just want this to go through and exit with gains.


I am just thinking it will trade very volatility after they merge because it soo hyped up.

Lucid delivery starts April.

One bad magazine review could cause panic. It would spread on twitter/reddit/discord etc


Other day Ford dropped right away as soon they made announcement that mach e mustang will delayed.
Its very likely that I don't hold through merger if this is confirmed. My plan is to exit on the pop after the DA and then go all in again on a SPAC near NAV.
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
Its very likely that I don't hold through merger if this is confirmed. My plan is to exit on the pop after the DA and then go all in again on a SPAC near NAV.
I have $21 as sell, my gut keeps saying if there is any news they are in talks could push it to $25 even before they merge.


How hard people are probing and hyping on screenshots.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I have $21 as sell, my gut keeps saying if there is any news they are in talks could push it to $25 even before they merge.


How hard people are probing and hyping on screenshots.
Sounds greedy but I'd love 32, that would be a 250K gain for me but we'll see what happens and if anything even happens.
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
Its very likely that I don't hold through merger if this is confirmed. My plan is to exit on the pop after the DA and then go all in again on a SPAC near NAV.
I think this is a hold through merger. Look at QS and NKLA. There is something about a ticker change sometimes that makes people go crazy and fomo
post 1629104113 01-19-2021, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
I think this is a hold through merger. Look at QS and NKLA. There is something about a ticker change sometimes that makes people go crazy and fomo
I guess I'm a bit disenchanted with merger holds considering I got destroyed on GRAF dropping like a rock.
post 1629104443 01-19-2021, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
Sounds greedy but I'd love 32, that would be a 250K gain for me but we'll see what happens and if anything even happens.
wow. $250k is life changing, would quit my job in an instant lol
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Sweet baby jeeeebus. this market.

When you have EV stocks popping like this, it makes AMZN and Netflix look incredibly boring. I think that's a warning of madness to come.

GEVO up 78 % in one day!!!??! The fukkk....

for a conservative play, grab some ICLN. Energy ETF w/ room to grow. Ain't a grand slam up 50% in a week, but should do well over the next 4 years of Dems in control of government.

SRS.

Good luck boyos
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
Yellen specifically said Unrealized:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29O1WX

This is pure insanity if this article is accurate. And why is the fed getting involved in our tax code???
i wonder what would happen to the market if this actually happen wth. hopefully this does not come close to canada
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Unless something crazy attractive comes up, I'm going to try hard AF to just sit on my hands.

That said, selling calls on NFLX for 1/22 exp might be attractive. If puts are cheap enough, I might throw a grand in there just to see what happens.

PLTR, if it dips below $26, I might sell some more puts deep ITM. If I can get a $4 premium on a $30 strike, I will do that.

The GHIV merger vote is tomorrow, could see this thing pop.
Sellings puts above share price doesnt make sense. If youre that bullish youre far better off buying calls. Even leaps are cheaper. Unless im missing something here.
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