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10-08-2021, 12:18 PM
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SPY is probably at the "return to normal" stage

energy stocks are probably at the "media attention" phase


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10-08-2021, 12:19 PM
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Gjdm.

My view is that structural inflation will decimate every other sector except energy. Energy is currently 3% of SPY and peaked at 28% in 2008. Holding this until I see 10 baggers.
same, my portfolio is mad green today. 35% energy, 50% cash, the rest in ETFs
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10-08-2021, 01:29 PM
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Anyone know anyone who does paid 1 on 1 coaching for stock investing?


I want help building a mid term portfolio for myself


don't know where to begin
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10-08-2021, 01:48 PM
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Oof jobs 194k somehow unemployment 4.8%

Fed will need to turn printer on overdrive


Let’s go Brandon!
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right: on 200k job disappointing…

left: unemployment rate fell to 4.8%…

gotta love it lol
who would've thought vaccine mandates were bad for job numbers. even the health care workers said f it and quit


biden trying to spin this in his press conference as a good thing that jobs numbers are down LOL

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SPY is probably at the "return to normal" stage

energy stocks are probably at the "media attention" phase
I used to post this exact type of chit with this mindset, it's not a good place to be in brah.

You'll be negative all the time and want bad chit to happen or somethin to fuk up. You'll probably lose a lot of money if not all of it before your bear thesis plays out. I used to think I was smart trying to be a contrarian to the trend and trying to time the big drop and all that chit.

You lose enough money and you will actually realize what the contrarian tells actually are(it's not whatever you're currently seeing). I mean we're up 125 ES pts or some chit from your last crash call.

Stay away from websites and permabears who are constantly wrong like zerohedge.com aka zero edge.

But I could be wrong and markets could tank to oblivion like you're predicting, up to you.


and lol'd @ the disclaimer in your sig "(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)"

bro the SEC and the feds isn't coming on the misc to dig up ur posts
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10-08-2021, 02:23 PM
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Anyone know why PayPal and Crisper are going down? I can’t find any specific bad news. Seems like two really good stocks to buy shares for long term. But don’t want to catch a falling knife. Got a small position in both.
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10-08-2021, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Slamt⏩
who would've thought vaccine mandates were bad for job numbers. even the health care workers said f it and quit


biden trying to spin this in his press conference as a good thing that jobs numbers are down LOL



I used to post this exact type of chit with this mindset, it's not a good place to be in brah.

You'll be negative all the time and want bad chit to happen or somethin to fuk up. You'll probably lose a lot of money if not all of it before your bear thesis plays out. I used to think I was smart trying to be a contrarian to the trend and trying to time the big drop and all that chit.

You lose enough money and you will actually realize what the contrarian tells actually are(it's not whatever you're currently seeing). I mean we're up 125 ES pts or some chit from your last crash call.

Stay away from websites and permabears who are constantly wrong like zerohedge.com aka zero edge.

But I could be wrong and markets could tank to oblivion like you're predicting, up to you.


and lol'd @ the disclaimer in your sig "(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)"

bro the SEC and the feds isn't coming on the misc to dig up ur posts
Nothing wrong with being contrarian when you're beating the index.

We'll see how this plays out in 10 years.
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10-08-2021, 02:34 PM
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Job reported was abysmal. Who wouldve thought…. oh wait, there's vaccine mandates nationwide.
taper cancelled here we go moon mission
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10-08-2021, 02:56 PM
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Nothing wrong with being contrarian when you're beating the index.

We'll see how this plays out in 10 years.
10 years? not sure if srs. and that's definitely the time frame his chart and his calls are alluding to. people blow up their accounts here on a 2% day LOL

And how does a retail trader keep a bearish position for 10 years…….

and FYI markets have never been down in a 20year rolling period, ever, so even the premise of being a long term bear is fukin retarded. lol @ 10 years.


But you're absolutely right, there's nothing wrong with being contrarian and beating the markets. The problem is when you THINK you are being contrarian but everybody else has the same trade thesis as you and regurgitating the same charts to each other. It's one thing if you can be flexible and sell the rips that have gone full retard, but if you're bearish all the fkin time then maybe there's an issue.

I'm just posting all this because that bearish person I'm describing used to be me so it hit a little close to home when I see somebody trending down that path of becoming a perma-bear.

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10-08-2021, 02:56 PM
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Anyone know why PayPal and Crisper are going down? I can’t find any specific bad news. Seems like two really good stocks to buy shares for long term. But don’t want to catch a falling knife. Got a small position in both.
I recall reading some questionable news on PayPal and sold it? I thought it was a keeper too, but I don't like seeing red when AMD and NVDA were mooning, at the time.
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10-08-2021, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Slamt⏩
10 years? not sure if srs. and that's definitely the time frame his chart and his calls are alluding to. people blow up their accounts here on a 2% day LOL

And how does a retail trader keep a bearish position for 10 years…….

and FYI markets have never been down in a 20year rolling period, ever, so even the premise of being a long term bear is fukin retarded. lol @ 10 years.


But you're absolutely right, there's nothing wrong with being contrarian and beating the markets. The problem is when you THINK you are being contrarian but everybody else has the same trade thesis as you and regurgitating the same charts to each other. It's one thing if you can be flexible and sell the rips that have gone full retard, but if you're bearish all the fkin time then maybe there's an issue.

I'm just posting all this because that bearish person I'm describing used to be me so it hit a little close to home when I see somebody trending down that path of becoming a perma-bear.

you all do you
Not aware of his charts but in my view everything hinges on whether we have long term inflation/stagflation or a continuation of a dis-inflationary/deflationary environment. The last time we had an inflationary environment was in the 1970s. Most fund managers and the recent rise of retail trading doesn't even know what it's like to live through that environment let alone invest through it.

The Dow Jones went down from 1965 to 1982 adjusted for inflation so yes, it was about 20 years of compounded loss if you just stuck it in an index. SPY is heavily composed of tech and index funds themselves can be seen as a bubble due to the amount of passive flows in the past decade.

Agreed that being bearish for the sake of being contrarian is retarded. But sustained inflation will fuk everything up I guarantee that.
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10-08-2021, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Slamt⏩
10 years? not sure if srs. and that's definitely the time frame his chart and his calls are alluding to. people blow up their accounts here on a 2% day LOL

And how does a retail trader keep a bearish position for 10 years…….

and FYI markets have never been down in a 20year rolling period, ever, so even the premise of being a long term bear is fukin retarded. lol @ 10 years.


But you're absolutely right, there's nothing wrong with being contrarian and beating the markets. The problem is when you THINK you are being contrarian but everybody else has the same trade thesis as you and regurgitating the same charts to each other. It's one thing if you can be flexible and sell the rips that have gone full retard, but if you're bearish all the fkin time then maybe there's an issue.

I'm just posting all this because that bearish person I'm describing used to be me so it hit a little close to home when I see somebody trending down that path of becoming a perma-bear.

you all do you
the main reason im bearish is because of historical valuations. The SP500 is the most expensive its ever been (highest p/e ratios) …and that includes all the buybacks that artifically propped those stock prices up. And im not being a bear on the entire market tho …im just more bullish on energy and bank stocks for the next 5 years due to lower valuations and interest rates going up. Plus I dont see how MSFT, APPL, Google can continue to grow at the same rate they did 5 years ago now that they are so big..inflation is a really bad thing..on one hand, consumers have less disposable income , and on the other hand, businesses have to raise prices which will effect sales..just my .02
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10-08-2021, 04:45 PM
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the main reason im bearish is because of historical valuations. The SP500 is the most expensive its ever been (highest p/e ratios) …and that includes all the buybacks that artifically propped those stock prices up. And im not being a bear on the entire market tho …im just more bullish on energy and bank stocks for the next 5 years due to lower valuations and interest rates going up. Plus I dont see how MSFT, APPL, Google can continue to grow at the same rate they did 5 years ago now that they are so big..inflation is a really bad thing..on one hand, consumers have less disposable income , and on the other hand, businesses have to raise prices which will effect sales..just my .02
Most boyos don't pay attention to macro and rightfully so… it's been a piss poor tool for outperformance ever since QE started.

Appears to me that market is now under-appreciating the possibility of sustained inflation. Early retirement or LDAR crew.
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10-09-2021, 07:45 AM
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UK 10 year just broke from its downtrend boyos…

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10-09-2021, 08:08 AM
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Many of the big bois were anticipating the US 10 year to end 2021 at around 2%
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UK 10 year just broke from its downtrend boyos…

Hnggg 2.5% here we come
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10-09-2021, 07:25 PM
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Looking at going short into the sell side liquidity around 1.85 for my target during Sydney sesh on sunday.



DED fooking SRS.

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10-09-2021, 08:17 PM
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Looking at going short into the sell side liquidity around 1.85 for my target during Sydney sesh on sunday.



DED fooking SRS.

srs.
What did you say?
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What did you say?
Price GO where sell orders ARE to allow SUPPLY for buyers to come in PRICE goes down BIG red DILLYS.
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10-10-2021, 09:15 AM
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Vanguard transformed their mobile app.

Perfectly organized now.

Can't stop staring at the +145% 1yr stat on my account there lmao.
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10-10-2021, 01:29 PM
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get ready for a wild week in the market boyos…we either go massively green or red ….very important week since we are at critical support levels!
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10-10-2021, 02:22 PM
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I can’t take this anymore
ALREADY in profit 39 minutes into SYDNEY session I COULDN'T TAKE your PATHETIC life EITHER ded FOOKING srs.

It's OVER for you BOYO bout' to MAKE your WEEKLY check in ONE trade on a SUNDAY yeah I would be SEETHING too. ded FOOKING srs.

JUST lol

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10-10-2021, 07:25 PM
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Black gold gang we feasting tomorrow?
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10-10-2021, 07:38 PM
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Vanguard transformed their mobile app.

Perfectly organized now.

Can't stop staring at the +145% 1yr stat on my account there lmao.
Looks better. Had a hard time just trying to locate where to transfer money last time.

Fkin hate how they always want to send a damn security code. Fuk them.
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10-10-2021, 07:41 PM
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WTI over $80 boys
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WTI over $80 boys

Time to throw your life savings into even garbage companies like XOM.
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Time to throw your life savings into even garbage companies like XOM.
XOM would be the last oil stonk i'd buy and I've got a lot of oil stonks
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XOM would be the last oil stonk i'd buy and I've got a lot of oil stonks
Hoes gon be mad at my dirty money GAINZ
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I did a quick hit and run for their juicy div earlier this year
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So, it seems that getting into some energy stonks is the current play. Are Chevron and ConocoPhilips solid or would you suggest other companies? I am a long-term investor.
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So, it seems that getting into some energy stonks is the current play. Are Chevron and ConocoPhilips solid or would you suggest other companies? I am a long-term investor.
Entirely IMO, but SU hasn’t gone up dramatically yet. XOM still relatively low based on typical pricing too. Many others have taken off and starting positions at these levels is risky considering Middle East can turn taps back on whenever they like.
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