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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine WW3 thread; Soys and propaganda edition - Part 3

post 1660708833 05-04-2022, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah⏩
Holy chit of there's really a general mobilization it's going to be really, really bloody for all. Russia might get it done with their sheer numbers after some months but there's going to be battle tested Ukies with modern western weapon systems waiting for them poor drafted russian boyos.
This, the russians will just lack any morale to go fight in Ukraine.

As we've seen untill now it will be an even bigger humiliation and Russia already showed it sucks in logisitics, imagine a bigger army, LMFAO!
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The climate has been kinda hot in Russia lately

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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Ukraines military right now consists of untrained conscripts that are nearly broken physically/mentally. Weapons and technology are cool and all but that only goes so far.
So Russia was forced to give up the Kiev and northern fronts and managed to lose 6 ships, including its Black Sea flagship to a bunch of conscripts larping as an army that has no navy?


Dang.


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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
As opposed to the russian military which is comprised of green beret lvl badasses.
They're regular military that have at least been through basic training, are rotated out on a regular basis, etc

I can't imagine what it's like to be shot at, bombed by artillery, etc for months on end without a break. Legit feel bad for the ukrainians.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
So Russia was forced to give up the Kiev and northern fronts and managed to lose 6 ships, including its Black Sea flagship to a bunch of conscripts larping as an army that has no navy?


Dang.


Lmfao, vatniks keep owning themselves itt

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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Lmfao, vatniks keep owning themselves itt

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exhausted-...130359514.html

Exhausted Ukrainian soldiers return from eastern front
At 21 years old, Samoylov, an officer from the Odessa military academy, finds himself managing130 conscripts, often twice his age.

"It's my first war. I was supposed to graduate in four months, but they sent me here," says the baby-faced officer with a short black beard.
The weapons we give them are enabling the Ukrainians to sink the occasional ship, take down a helicopter here and their, but their actual fighting force is so depleted they're sending 40 year old farmers and plumbers to fight
In this brigade, like the others, they don't say how many people have been killed.
When the subject comes up, Samoylov's gaze becomes misty. The pain is raw.

A deadly silence takes over the military truck during the drive to the abandoned building where the soldiers will stay during their week of rest.
The longer this drags out the worse this gets.

By the way, what happens to the weapons we give to Ukraine when the Ukrainian military gets defeated? Is there a reason Russia has been using so many javelins and stingers?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exhausted-...130359514.html

Exhausted Ukrainian soldiers return from eastern front



The weapons we give them are enabling the Ukrainians to sink the occasional ship, take down a helicopter here and their, but their actual fighting force is so depleted they're sending 40 year old farmers and plumbers to fight



The longer this drags out the worse this gets.

By the way, what happens to the weapons we give to Ukraine when the Ukrainian military gets defeated? Is there a reason Russia has been using so many javelins and stingers?
Keep coping



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Gets worse and worse for Ruskis

Germany plans to hand over the "Cobra" superradar radar system to Ukraine. With the help of this system, enemy howitzers and mortars as well as rocket artillery can be localized and transmitted as hit coordinates to friendly gun systems

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[QUOTE=****inator post_id=1660711063]Keep coping

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/7P9Z8gSj/afbeelding.png[/IG]

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/cCk3DpxB/afbeelding.png[/IG][/QUOTE]Do you deny the state of the ukrainian military?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
schizo business as usual
So you got one interview with conscripts - who are being rotated out, unlike the Russians - from 3 days ago in an invasion that's in its third month and call it a day. Ok.

The Ukrainian army was on Russia's current level 8 years ago but they have been trained by Western forces and it really shows. You can keep trying to lie to your schizo teeth as you always do, but the events and developments simply don't add up. The only explanation would be that the Russian army is somehow far less competent than a random bunch of civilians who have no training and crap equipment.

But I guess all those videos of the Ukrainians tearing up Russian equipment and troops are just lizardman CGI.

"sink the occasional ship, take down a helicopter here" - yeah, the occasional flagship and a couple dozen fighters and helicopters. And the hundreds of tanks and whatnot. Again, they have no navy whatsoever and how in the everliving fuk does "numba 2 army on planet" still not have air superiority against a bunch of potato farmers?

Meanwhile Russia is using WW1-2 era human wave tactics with Cold War era equipment at best - with a sizeable amount of that gone that can no longer be replaced - and continuously showing an utter lack of coordination and worthwhile logistics. The only reason they have managed to "take" Mariupol is because it's literally a 10 minute drive from the contested area.

Not to mention the utter retardation of digging trenches in the fuking Red Forest and grabbing radioactive crap because it looks cool.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Retarded as usual
Either source russia putting elderly conscripts on the front lines or go back to fisting yourself
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Not to mention the utter retardation of digging trenches in the fuking Red Forest and grabbing radioactive crap because it looks cool.
LMFAO! I forgot about that, imagine the low IQ of ruskis, no wonder Ukraine is winning.

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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Ukraines military right now consists of untrained conscripts that are nearly broken physically/mentally. Weapons and technology are cool and all but that only goes so far.
Based on what? You are telling me nothing but conscripts are holding Russia back from taking any major objective? Stop making shiet up dude jesus christ.

And why is Poots mobilizing the entire Country if only tired untrained conscripts are left in Ukraine?
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Based on what? You are telling me nothing but conscripts are holding Russia back from taking any major objective? Stop making shiet up dude jesus christ.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exhausted-...130359514.html

Exhausted Ukrainian soldiers return from eastern front
At 21 years old, Samoylov, an officer from the Odessa military academy, finds himself managing130 conscripts, often twice his age.

"It's my first war. I was supposed to graduate in four months, but they sent me here," says the baby-faced officer with a short black beard.

In this brigade, like the others, they don't say how many people have been killed.
When the subject comes up, Samoylov's gaze becomes misty. The pain is raw.

A deadly silence takes over the military truck during the drive to the abandoned building where the soldiers will stay during their week of rest.
This is the ukrainian front line right now

They spend almost two months living out on the open getting shot at and bombed and then they get to spend a week in a hovel trying to heal. These aren't soldiers, these are regular people pressed into service. I don't know how you pretend to be pro-ukraine and happy about this but you are a massive tard so you clearly found a way.

In the end Russia is going to take the donbas and all of this misery and death will be for nothing more than the Ukrainian oligarchs filling their pockets with 'military aid' before escaping to england or america.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Based on what? You are telling me nothing but conscripts are holding Russia back from taking any major objective? Stop making shiet up dude jesus christ.

And why is Poots mobilizing the entire Country if only tired untrained conscripts are left in Ukraine?
"Bu..bu our retreat from the north was actually us ruskis winning!"

Just fkcing L O L!
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exhausted-...130359514.html

Exhausted Ukrainian soldiers return from eastern front



This is the ukrainian front line right now

They spend almost two months living out on the open getting shot at and bombed and then they get to spend a week in a hovel trying to heal. These aren't soldiers, these are regular people pressed into service. I don't know how you pretend to be pro-ukraine and happy about this but you are a massive tard so you clearly found a way.
You are quoting ONE OFFICER and using it as if its the entire fukking military? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo god damn you are fukking stupid
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Originally Posted By foXs⏩
Yes Sherlock, I am frauding and I lived in the river. I've never said I am Ukrainian, I said some of my family lived there, and so did I.
It was always Днепропетро́вск, Dnepr in short. It was renamed only recently to Dnipro, which is literally Dnepr just Ukrainian version.Don't think I have heard a single person in my existence who called Dnepr Dnipro.
Okay, thank you for the short history lesson, did not know about the name change. I spoke to three native Ukrainians in the first week of the war/Russian peace operation, and they said they were going back home, to their hometown of "Dnipro" as they pronounced it. Doesn't really matter.
Originally Posted By foXs⏩
My family still has relatives living in Kremenchug and they are struggling while my other side living in St. Petersburg are not doing poorly at all. In fact they have not experienced worsening conditions even now, while my other side in Kremenchug can't even leave their home because looters are breaking into every house, it's absolute chaos. It was chaos even before the invasion. How could an average folk in Ukraine be better off than one in Russia?
In the words of Joe Biden "Come On Man", you are comparing Sankt Peterburg (the second biggest city in Russia), and the areas around there to.... Kremenchuk? Sankt Peterburg has always been known through history as a wealthy, safe and clean city. There are no doubt a lot of poor and ****ty places in Ukraine, especially in east Ukraine. I'm not doubting that, but that's no fair comparison there.

The only people living well in Russia are the people in Moscow and Sankt Peterburg, and maybe the people in smaller towns/villages nearby. Russian landmass is huge, with over 1110 cities around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...owns_in_Russia


google search any of the "cities" listed in here, and you can see the shape most of them are in. I've actually traveled Russia and seen a lot of the cities and villages myself. I could see they were worse off than the villages in Latvia/Lithuania/Estonia and Ukraine (western parts).
Originally Posted By foXs⏩
How could it be better? When I was a kid Ukraine was a lot poorer than Russia, in every statistic.
You haven't been there in 20 years? You currently living in Russia or been there recently? It's hard to comment on things, if you haven't really been there recently, no? You know, seeing things with your own eyes. The numbers don't tell the whole story.
Originally Posted By foXs⏩
And where do you get information that the majority of Russia's conscripts are from some far away lands in far north, west and south?
Did some background searches on fallen Russian soldiers (from "Ищи своих"). There was a separate page up, where they linked up the soldier and his homeplace somewhere. Can't bother to search for that right now.

Xорошего дня : )
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Either source russia putting elderly conscripts on the front lines or go back to fisting yourself
Be my guest


Conscripts sent to fight by pro-Russia Donbas get little training, old rifles, poor supplies
https://www.reuters.com./world/consc...or-2022-04-04/

How Ukraine separatists are mass conscripting anyone of fighting age
https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukraine-se...age/a-61608760
















Your turn, if all of what you keep lying about the Ukrainian army is true then wtf are the Russians doing, hmm?
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
You are quoting ONE OFFICER and using it as if its the entire fukking military? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo god damn you are fukking stupid
That's a british reporter that went to the front. She has a quote from an officer but she's reporting on the entire battalion. Based on the article it's unlikely that was even the original battalion, it's most likely a mix of conscripts from other battalions that were destroyed.

There's no way these people would be on the front if Ukraine had actual soldiers operating.

Imagine if you had learned from your many failures by now to actually read the source. You just can't help but to immediately spout off like a hysterical woman. Tell the truth, your wife is a lesbian isn't she
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[QUOTE=BraneyGumble post_id=1660713643]Be my guest


Conscripts sent to fight by pro-Russia Donbas get little training, old rifles, poor supplies
[URL=https://www.reuters.com./world/conscripts-sent-fight-by-pro-russia-donbas-get-little-training-old-rifles-poor-2022-04-04/]https://www.reuters.com./world/consc...or-2022-04-04/[/URL]

How Ukraine separatists are mass conscripting anyone of fighting age
[URL=https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukraine-separatists-are-mass-conscripting-anyone-of-fighting-age/a-61608760]https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukraine-se...age/a-61608760[/URL]

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Your turn, if all of what you keep lying about the Ukrainian army is true then wtf are the Russians doing, hmm?[/QUOTE]Ukraine separatists are ukrainian militias, not the russian army lmao

fuking idiot, try again
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NEW: Ukrainian troops have been able to push Russian troops 20-30 miles out of Kharkiv: senior U.S. defense official



Stizzel on sui watch

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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Ukraine separatists are ukrainian militias, not the russian army lmao

fuking idiot, try again
Uh uh, no moving the goalposts, just take the L, boyo.

You asked for evidence of Russia putting elderly conscripts on the front line and I gave you plenty. They are supplied/armed(?) by Russia, recruited/press ganged by Russia and are fighting/forced to fight for Russia. Sorry, you don't get an "ackyhually they're not part of the regular army" out.

Bet you thought you were going to be a smartass when we both know that dudes conscripted IN Russia are of fighting age and - theoretically - cannot be deployed on foreign soil.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Ukraine separatists are ukrainian militias, not the russian army lmao

fuking idiot, try again
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Wins dumbest post of the year award. Quoting before you edit.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Uh uh, no moving the goalposts, just take the L, boyo.

You asked for evidence of Russia putting elderly conscripts on the front line and I gave you plenty. They are supplied/armed(?) by Russia, recruited/press ganged by Russia and are fighting/forced to fight for Russia. Sorry, you don't get an "ackyhually they're not part of the regular army" out.

Bet you thought you were going to be a smartass when we both know that dudes conscripted IN Russia are of fighting age and - theoretically - cannot be deployed on foreign soil.
Not moving goal posts at all. I asked for proof of Russia putting elderly conscripts on the front line and you responded with non russian militias that have been fighting the ukraine government for the last 10 years. You're an actual tard
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Not moving goal posts at all. I asked for proof of Russia putting elderly conscripts on the front line and you responded with non russian militias that have been fighting the ukraine government for the last 10 years. You're an actual tard
Non-Russian? All this time you've been sperging about the separatist regions being a majority ethnic Russians, with many of them having Russian citizenship. At least try to get your story straight.


Applying your logic(?) either both sides are fielding elderly conscripts on the front line or neither of them are. I'm feeling generous so I'll let you pick one.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Wins dumbest post of the year award. Quoting before you edit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ...rces_in_Donbas

The Donbas People's Militia was formed in March 2014 by Pavel Gubarev, who was elected "People's Governor" of Donetsk Oblast.[8] The Army of the South-East was formed in April 2014 in Luhansk Oblast. They were originally involved in taking control of Ukrainian government buildings in the oblasts. Tensions increased to the point of the Ukrainian government launching the Anti-Terrorist Operation against the militas, triggering the War in Donbas. The militias were accused by the Ukrainian government of culpability in shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in July 2014. Separatist leaders denied this.[9] In September 2014, the militias of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics merged under the umbrella of the United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (Russian: Объединённые Вооруженные Силы Новороссии; acronym NAF),[2][10] which was to be affiliated with the unrecognized political union of Novorossiya (New Russia). The two militias became the DPR 1st Army Corps[11] and LPR 2nd Army Corps.[12] However, the Novorossiya project was suspended in May 2015.

These are ukrainian rebels, not the russian military, and you are a potato
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Non-Russian? All this time you've been sperging about the separatist regions being a majority ethnic Russians, with many of them having Russian citizenship. At least try to get your story straight.


Applying your logic(?) either both sides are fielding elderly conscripts on the front line or neither of them are. I'm feeling generous so I'll let you pick one.
These are ethnic russians that are ukrainian citizens. They are not citizens of russia and are not in the russian military
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
These are ethnic russians that are ukrainian citizens. They are not citizens of russia and are not in the russian military
They are being conscripted to fight WITH RUSSIANS to defend their "independence" Its literally one of the key reasons Poots invaded Ukraine. Why would Russia need these men?
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