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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine WW3 thread; Soys and propaganda edition - Part 3

post 1660737033 05-04-2022, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Skylinerd1⏩
Usual linerd autism

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-Europe is now buying 1 billion Roubles per day
-selling 1 billion Euros per day
So EUR/RUB is apparently 1:1.
Originally Posted By Skylinerd1⏩
-on the FX market.
You mean on the bogus Russian accounts. Trade volume on FX market is exactly zero, nobody wants it outside Russia, you can't exchange it outside of Russia, only place you can use it is within Russia, since you are forced to use that.
Originally Posted By Skylinerd1⏩
-It's going to continue getting stronger and the euro is going to get completely crushed.
In Skyautist's brain the Ruble will crush the Euro, this makes sense and is also good for the Ruble.
Originally Posted By Skylinerd1⏩
The only ones making bank from this will be jews like zelensky and co who started the entire thing. Is all of europe prepared to suffer for zelensky and the rest of his jewish oligarch mates??
Muh jews.
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Originally Posted By Mr
European NATO nations absolutely should contribute the correct amount towards their defense, which they finally are now thanks to Putin the world's best NATO salesman, but fkn LMAO if you don't think the US gets anything out of this. They've not been bankrolling European defense for the last 80 years because of having a giant bleeding heart. It's so they can continue to project force globally.
Exactly, its for our retarded nation building foreign policy, something I dont support. It benefits the political class, not the people

Also lol at saying the russian military cant handle ukraines untrained conscripts and is also a threat to europe.

Let germany recruit an army and call it a day
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
Euro is even more of a bloodbath. I guess that means NATO is winning
This is only the beginning. We are entering a recession.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-05-04/

The Swiss government is setting up a gas sector crisis intervention group and a monitoring system for early detection of an impending electricity shortage, it said on Wednesday, as it prepares for the possibility of "severe" power shortages.

The Swiss government began drawing up plans in April for a potential gas shortage in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, saying measures were being developed ranging from appealing to the public to reduce consumption to possible power rationing in the event of a crunch.
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
This is only the beginning. We are entering a recession.
You may be correct about the recession but the ruble has nothing to do with it. The ruble price is effectively zero.
Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-05-04/

The Swiss government is setting up a gas sector crisis intervention group and a monitoring system for early detection of an impending electricity shortage, it said on Wednesday, as it prepares for the possibility of "severe" power shortages.

The Swiss government began drawing up plans in April for a potential gas shortage in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, saying measures were being developed ranging from appealing to the public to reduce consumption to possible power rationing in the event of a crunch.
Makes sense to plan to get away from Russian fuel.
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-05-04/

The Swiss government is setting up a gas sector crisis intervention group and a monitoring system for early detection of an impending electricity shortage, it said on Wednesday, as it prepares for the possibility of "severe" power shortages.

The Swiss government began drawing up plans in April for a potential gas shortage in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, saying measures were being developed ranging from appealing to the public to reduce consumption to possible power rationing in the event of a crunch.
Nice of Russia to invade in the Spring, and goof for the EU to finally get off the tit of a corrupt government that’s always hated the West and everything we stand for.
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
You may be correct about the recession but the ruble has nothing to do with it. The ruble price is effectively zero.



Makes sense to plan to get away from Russian fuel.
If we all crash the country that can still produce the basics is going to weather the storm much better. Things in the US are going to get tough but manageable.....europe though seems to be completely fuked
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
If we all crash the country that can still produce the basics is going to weather the storm much better. Things in the US are going to get tough but manageable.....europe though seems to be completely fuked
But Russia is fine right? They laugh those sanctions off!
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
You may be correct about the recession but the ruble has nothing to do with it. The ruble price is effectively zero.



Makes sense to plan to get away from Russian fuel.
ruble is worth more than it was before the war
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#Ukraine and #Russia have agreed on a ceasefire from May 5 to May 7 on the territory of #Azovstal.

The defenders of #Mariupol use this time to prepare civilians and the area for evacuation. Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Reintegration Irina Vereshchuk said in an interview.
Let's see if the ceasefire at azovstal lasts.
Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
ruble is worth more than it was before the war
Lol, no it's not.

That's the Russian rate; not the worth to the rest of the world. Go and try to trade it.
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
You may be correct about the recession but the ruble has nothing to do with it. The ruble price is effectively zero.


how do you figure?
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
how do you figure?
Go try to trade the ruble.
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
Go try to trade the ruble.
I can't because the American government won't let me.
But the rest of the world and Russia are trading... so?
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
I can't because the American government won't let me.
But the rest of the world and Russia are trading... so?
The rest of the world and Russia? You can't sell your shares if you're in Russia and most of the free world can't trade it.

It's effective rate is zero to the world except governments dealing with Russia; comparing the Ruble to the USD, YEN or even a piece of toilet paper is not an accurate comparison.

Something that cannot be bought or sold is worth zero.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
But Russia is fine right? They laugh those sanctions off!
I honestly think we're going to be in such bad shape by the end of the year that no one is going to care whats happening in russia. I hope I am wrong
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
how do you figure?
The five or so daily "muh Ruble exchange rate" posts are really tiresome. It's artificial.

Nobody is buying Rubles outside of Russia, it's wholly worthless outside of Russia, even if you were sitting on a pile of Rubles for some obscure reason - instead of EUR and USD - you wouldn't be able to exchange them for actual currencies or buy crap with them. The one and only place on the planet where you can exchange Rubles for anything else is Russia, where coincidentally you are forced to pay for whatever in Rubles. And then you still have to deal with inflation and whatnot.

Based on official exchange rate, 1 USD is worth 4.4 or so Venezulean bolivar and 127 or so Japanese Yen. Based on that logic Venezuela is an economic powerhouse, while Japan is a third world chithole.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
The five or so daily "muh Ruble exchange rate" posts are really tiresome. It's artificial.

Nobody is buying Rubles outside of Russia, it's wholly worthless outside of Russia, even if you were sitting on a pile of Rubles for some obscure reason - instead of EUR and USD - you wouldn't be able to exchange them for actual currencies or buy crap with them. The one and only place on the planet where you can exchange Rubles for anything else is Russia, where coincidentally you are forced to pay for whatever in Rubles. And then you still have to deal with inflation and whatnot.

Based on official exchange rate, 1 USD is worth 4.4 or so Venezulean bolivar and 127 or so Japanese Yen. Based on that logic Venezuela is an economic powerhouse, while Japan is a third world chithole.
We began a currency war to crash the ruble, thats why people are posting the rubles value. It shouldnt be going up while we're kneecaping ourselves to bring it down
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
The five or so daily "muh Ruble exchange rate" posts are really tiresome. It's artificial.

Nobody is buying Rubles outside of Russia, it's wholly worthless outside of Russia, even if you were sitting on a pile of Rubles for some obscure reason - instead of EUR and USD - you wouldn't be able to exchange them for actual currencies or buy crap with them. The one and only place on the planet where you can exchange Rubles for anything else is Russia, where coincidentally you are forced to pay for whatever in Rubles. And then you still have to deal with inflation and whatnot.

Based on official exchange rate, 1 USD is worth 4.4 or so Venezulean bolivar and 127 or so Japanese Yen. Based on that logic Venezuela is an economic powerhouse, while Japan is a third world chithole.
As we learned yesterday, if you even want to buy something from Russia with your useless rubles, the only real export they have are fossil fuels. Pretty much a useless country.
Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
We began a currency war to crash the ruble, thats why people are posting the rubles value. It shouldnt be going up while we're kneecaping ourselves to bring it down
What are you not understanding? The rubles value is zero.

The price "going up" is because it's managed right now by the Central Bank of Russia (CBR) and if you as a person hold Rubles you cannot sell them. It's a fake number.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
We began a currency war to crash the ruble, thats why people are posting the rubles value. It shouldnt be going up while we're kneecaping ourselves to bring it down
this essentially. People in the part 1 thread were LOLing how much the ruble was crashing but now that it's not crashing it doesn't really matter.
Cool. Keep coping.
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btw the thing about not selling rubles is not even accurate if I'm not mistaken. I think Russians have like a limit of exchanging not more than 10k USD.
So if you live in russia you can still buy ruble and you can still sell ruble...soooo yea you guys dunno wtf your talking about
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
this essentially. People in the part 1 thread were LOLing how much the ruble was crashing but now that it's not crashing it doesn't really matter.
Cool. Keep coping.
The entire russian economy was supposed to be over

Two more weeks?
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
this essentially. People in the part 1 thread were LOLing how much the ruble was crashing but now that it's not crashing it doesn't really matter.
Cool. Keep coping.
I never did. The russians have played it well to keep their currency afloat, for some time there i doubted very much that they could.

Its mostly “artificial” though. You can, as a state, control somewhat the value of your currency. You cant hwoever control your gdp... we’ll see how well that is going to do.

People having been claiming the sanctions wont do anything to russia and will backfire in the wests face since day 1. Again, we will see.

Oh btw, people said the same thing in 2014...
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
We began a currency war to crash the ruble, thats why people are posting the rubles value. It shouldnt be going up while we're kneecaping ourselves to bring it down
Who's "we"? You're still not American. And yes you, as Russians started a war.

Not sure if srs about mentioning Rubles in a currency war.
Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
this essentially. People in the part 1 thread were LOLing how much the ruble was crashing but now that it's not crashing it doesn't really matter.
Cool. Keep coping.
No, we were pointing out from day one how the sanctions and all of the European companies pulling out from Russia would wreck Russia's economy and whatnot - since, you know Russia can no longer import parts to run and produce crap like airlines, logistics and their industry, not to mention nobody will want to buy the stuff that they can't even produce now -, and how the exchange rate is pure cope.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Who's "we"? You're still not American. And yes you, as Russians started a war.

Not sure if srs about mentioning Rubles in a currency war.



No, we were pointing out from day one how the sanctions and all of the European companies pulling out from Russia would wreck Russia's economy and whatnot - since, you know Russia can no longer import parts to run and produce crap like airlines, logistics and their industry, not to mention nobody will want to buy the stuff that they can't even produce now -, and how the exchange rate is pure cope.
LOL

I love when you lunatics accuse me of bring russian. So funny
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
I never did. The russians have played it well to keep their currency afloat, for some time there i doubted very much that they could.

Its mostly “artificial” though. You can, as a state, control somewhat the value of your currency. You cant hwoever control your gdp... we’ll see how well that is going to do.

People having been claiming the sanctions wont do anything to russia and will backfire in the wests face since day 1. Again, we will see.

Oh btw, people said the same thing in 2014...
Yes many games can be played with currency. The thing is we're paying the price for this, and people want to see results for the cost. The vast majority of americans dont hate russia enough to lower their standard of living just to spite them but if thats what we're forced to do we want to at least see a return on the investment
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
Strong cope.

All of the retard crew were posting memes about Russian Ruble being worth 'less than a cent'. Now changing the goalposts.

Are you guys ever going to realize you're being played by western propaganda?
WHAT PROPAGANDA are you talking about you fukking moron? Post it.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Yes many games can be played with currency. The thing is we're paying the price for this, and people want to see results for the cost. The vast majority of americans dont hate russia enough to lower their standard of living just to spite them but if thats what we're forced to do we want to at least see a return on the investment
The doom and gloom prophecy trope is very overplayed boyo...

We mayan calendar now?
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
btw the thing about not selling rubles is not even accurate if I'm not mistaken. I think Russians have like a limit of exchanging not more than 10k USD.
So if you live in russia you can still buy ruble and you can still sell ruble...soooo yea you guys dunno wtf your talking about
With a cursory search, this was the most recent I found without spending more than 5 minutes searching. From 3/28

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/rus...pHEAAYQDoiLtid
The benchmark MOEX index declined 1.1% Monday—the first day that the Bank of Russia allowed trading in all Russian shares. Only 33 stocks were allowed to trade when the market reopened last week.

Russia shuttered its stock market after the West unleashed sanctions targeting the country’s banking system and the central bank’s access to its foreign-currency reserves. Moscow has slowly eased these restrictions,though foreigners remain unable to sell their shares, stalling an expected selloff.

Before the war, foreigners owned around three quarters of the shares available to public investors in Russia,known as the free float, and were responsible for around half of the trading volume each day. Russian shares listed in London and New York plunged after the war began, and many have been delisted or suspended because of the sanctions.

Limiting foreigners from selling shares helps safeguard the ruble, which has recouped some of its losses from earlier this month in recent sessions.Foreign stockholders selling ruble-denominated shares would likely move that money into euros or dollars, weakening the value of Russia’s currency once again.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/29/inves...ent/index.html

04/29

Russia has been able to prop up the ruble despite global sanctions by hiking interest rates,preventing Russian brokers from selling securities held by foreigners and demanding payment for gas and oil deliveries in rubles, among other actions. These measures have allowed Moscow to artificially manufacture demand for the ruble, even as the nation's economy remains in tatters.
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Here is probably the best source for counter sanctions

https://www.gibsondunn.com/russia-re...-states/#_edn8
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