I was going to buy one last year until I tried it on and wow was I disappointed, felt cheap and looked plain and boring, completely opposite as to what it looks like in pictures and videos online.

I'm eyeballing an Jaeger Reverso instead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchURaffle/

I have no experience with this, however, but it seems like a simple way to get some easy cash for you watch.


I did this too lol…granted I tried on the large. I think the medium would've looked better. I wouldn't say it felt cheap, but I was disappointed for sure. I do still like the watch a lot, but it went from "my next pick" to "might or might not own"

Suggested to catbrah just for collection aesthetics…and he's a mad lad who would probably buy immediately lol



Love them srs…The BR05 collection look and feel great irl. I imagine I'll own one in the future.

In on bell and ross. ive never seen one in person, and kind of dont want to….

Because i think i'd buy one.

Those B&R watches are cool because they look lik a Patek Nautilus. However I wouldnt buy it even as a "fun" piece because every time I looked at it on my wrist, all that I would be reminded of is that its not a Nautilus. Its almost a homage in a way.

A homage is ok, I have a homage of a Daytona (Seiko Speedtimer SSC911P1/SBDL095). But a homage should cost at most a few hundred dollars. It should not cost several thousand. I would not buy it.

The truth is the design is not that attractive. People only think its attractive because it looks kinda like a Nautilus. That design isnt even a classic B&R design.

Its not like a Speedmaster vs Submariner here the Speedmaster looks completely different. The B&R looks too much like a Nautilus to not be compared to it.

EDIT: Its like the zenith el primero chronosport. Its a beautiful watch by any measure. But a large (very large) part of its appeal is that it looks like a 116500LN Panda Stainless Daytona. Yea Panda Stainless Daytonas trade for like 30k, but do you really wanna spend 10k on a watch that LOOKS like one?

Why not get something more unique? Or spen the extra money to get the Daytona? Or if your case, spend the extra 50k and get the nautilus

^I do agree with the homage take in general, but I feel the BR05 looks different enough to steer away from that a bit. Not like the Zenith you mentioned which is borderline identical.

Got the this Seiko Speedtimer a few days ago. I absolutely love the look of it.
I put it on a 21mm Strap that was originally made for a Yachtmaster II.
It was a really really REALLY tough fit, but I eventually got it on.





It looks almost like my stainless Daytona that I traded away.


2 days ago I also swapped the black RubberB on the 116515 for an Applewatch Strap. Instead of paying another 250USD for a new RubberB, I paid 12USD for the AppleWatch Strap. It Fits pretty well

Personally I have never encountered anything that required Warranty work on a new watch within the 1st 10 years, never mind 2 or 5 years.
Unless you are trying to build a relationship to buy a Snoopy, I'd skip the AD and get it cheaper grey

Popping in and getting caught up. I'm surprised it took brah this long to come to this conclusion about the datejusts. Oddly enough, I owned the exact 2 configurations he had, but I only owned both for maybe 4 months before I ended up selling the blue one off. I loved the dial of the blue, but enjoyed the overall weight and wrist presence of the twotoned sundust more. I was fortunate to get out of the blue dial slightly above cost cause a colleague wanted one for his wedding, but I don't envy anyone trying to offload a rolex in this market.

It's interesting what you're saying about the explorer and i'm almost certain you're right. I've been wearing my datejust less and less in favor of my Tudor Chronograph simply because it falls in that "iykyk" category. Wear my TT Datejust to the fitness club i belong to, and can watch some dudes literally scoff at it whereas I get more guys wanting to make small talk at the smoothie bar when i'm wearing the tudor, it's weird.

Going snowboarding in vail next week, looking forward to timing runs down the mountain in the Tudor whereas I think the datejust would look downright asinine on the mountain. Will probably wear it to dinners though. Don't see myself ever getting up to 6 watches. Really enjoy the practical rotation of a 3 piece rotation.

are you set on getting something new? i bought my aqua terra used but in like-new condition and saved a chit ton of money. the first owner bought the watch in 2020 and i bought it in 2021, so i still have warranty on it until 2025.

Factory Warranty from a non AD could be tricky. Because Greys also buy from boutiques and AD's. The day the watch is purchased is usually the day the Warranty card is stamped.

So even if the Grey is selling you an unworn or new watch, it could have been sitting in his window for several months. Those several months are already apart of the factory warranty.

This is why most Grey's provide their own warranty.

I dont know about OMEGA, but Rolex does NOT sell spare parts. They absolutely do not sell spare parts. They replace with new parts and confiscate old parts. Additionally this is only done during service. So the Warranty work a Grey can do is very limited. If any spare part is required they need to send the watch back to OMEGA. The warranty work for the 1st few years is usually limited to just oiling the watch if its a little bit dry.

A warranty card is actually just for show. The maker can tell when the watch was made/sold by the serial number engraved on the watch case. People use the warranty card to tell if the watch matches the card to help verify if a watch is real.

The warranty card and box also help make a watch "full set". It means that the watch comes with all of its original accessories.

A full set is important in helping to verify that a watch is not a "Frankenstein". A Frankenstein is a watch that has been modified with the parts of other watches. Such as if somebody took a Black Submariner and modified it by adding a green bezel. They could just sell that watch and claim that they do not have the original box and papers.

AP on the other hand, I dont know about today, but 8 years ago they told me they would sell me bezels. An AP Boutique in ***** told me that they could swap my the white dial in my 26320 for a black or blue dial. Both are the same price and both cost about 1500USD (at the time). Of course my old dial would be confiscated. The differences between the value of a white dial vs blue dial watch is massive. Like 50%. The downside is that the serial number engravement on the case would still indicate that the watch was originally a white dial. So it would very obviously be a Frankenstein.

On a Rolex Daytona, it would not be possible (by warranty card and model number) to tell what the original dial was. Only the Service center would know by y the serial. My 116515 for example has like 10 different dial combos. All of them are just 116515LN on the warranty card. I think OMEGA has a more detailed warranty card though. The serial numbers on OMEGAs also indicate if they came on a bracelet or strap I believe.

So full set is always important. I never buy the "i lost my warranty card" story. The more expensive a watch is, the more important it is to have the full set.

damn. look at what my buddy in NYC just saw out in the wild. he talked to the guy about watches for 30 minutes. he said he was a chill, cool dude. the watch is up for auction.



https://iflwatches.com/blogs/celebri...s-tiffany-5711

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/pa...-new-york-2021

everyday watch for mechanical engineer that is < or = 800?

pp nautilus is one of the ugliest inherently divisive watche ive ever seen in my entire life … but again weak minded people are controlled by pp marketing

Spend a hair more and get this

https://www.jomashop.com/longines-wa...76-4-76-6.html

He paid $52K retail at the boutique. He's flipping it via auction for $1.8-$2M+. The rich get richer.

unless you're going to spend 10X that, don't bother. just get a smart watch. any mechanical watch under $8K will be a shiitter and will depreciate faster than a rock as soon as you walk out of the store. don't waste your money.

lol

i wouldve done the same lol…. doesnt mean its not an ugly as fukc watch

At his price point depreciation is irrelevant

the market disagrees.

lol @ this donkey

don't piss away $800 on a shiitter. spend $100 or less.

the market believes transexuals are normal humans,weed is good and getting drunk is cool… doesnt mean its right lol…. sheep mentality everywhere

if you really want one go into the boutique and ask for one. make sure you're well dressed and professional. stress that you want it for sentimental reasons - leave for son - grandfather had one that got lost etc. leave your number. follow up and you may get a call back for one.

thats only really relevant if youre buying with the intention of selling at some point. some people buy a watch with absolutely no intent to ever sell it (me).

no point in overpaying for a shiitter with zero real horological history or pedigree. at least buy it used and let some other ass hole moron take the huge depreciation hit.

BTW - the Patek story above reminds me of my own story a few years ago. some older dude was sitting next to me at the bar dressed very casually just like above - jeans, polo shirt, etc. i immediately dismissed him and was kind of annoyed that some Boomer was taking the seat away from a potential hot chick. i was thinking to myself - who's this schmo? anyway, i was a few margaritas in and i look over at the guy and i see what looks like an RM. i'd never seen one of those before in the wild - and i go - excuse me, what kind of watch is that? he replies - it's an RM. i go - those are kind of pricey, no? his classic reply - "they can be." it just goes to show you - never judge a book by its cover - and you never know who you're sitting next to.

for sure it has imo, although i dont really follow the rolex market.

i didnt wait long on the "waitlist" for my datejust41 from the AD close to my house here in toronto. daytonas though idk, i would think those are still hard to get from an AD.

I'll be honest, I'm not sure dressing up and being slick works anymore. I finally got traction with a dealer when I went after my son's little league game. I was in shorts and a T-shirt. But I was able to hold a good conversation about horology, and I did mention I wanted the watch engraved if I got it (so obviously not to flip)