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11-02-2021, 08:39 AM
#10081
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Yahoo isn't the pinnacle of great decision making lol. Pretty sure these retards had a chance to buy MSFT or GOOGL in the 2000's and said no thx jeff.
chynacels.
time to buy more baba. lmao.
(not srs)
time to buy more baba. lmao.
(not srs)
Matter of fact, their best decision was investing in BABA before they went full retard and hired a female CEO to blow up their company.
Them capitulating here might actually be a good sign for BABA dead srs
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11-02-2021, 08:40 AM
#10082
So, if Amazon did a 4-1 split, would Amazon quadruple the following year?
Lmao @ savy 'investors' of 2021.
Lmao @ savy 'investors' of 2021.
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11-02-2021, 08:45 AM
#10083
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Srs answer. Probably double. lmao people are dumb ded srs
So, if Amazon did a 4-1 split, would Amazon quadruple the following year?
Lmao @ savy 'investors' of 2021.
Lmao @ savy 'investors' of 2021.
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11-02-2021, 08:54 AM
#10084
Looks like NVDA gonna be my only green holding today.
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11-02-2021, 08:55 AM
#10085
Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
this
Srs answer. Probably double. lmao people are dumb ded srs
I think being a savvy investor now means reading the audience.
these companies aren't offering dividends. what's the point of owning stock at all? speculation.
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11-02-2021, 08:59 AM
#10086
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
I'd argue against dividends for all stock.
this
I think being a savvy investor now means reading the audience.
these companies aren't offering dividends. what's the point of owning stock at all? speculation.
I think being a savvy investor now means reading the audience.
these companies aren't offering dividends. what's the point of owning stock at all? speculation.
The tax disadvantage of dividends against compounding is obscene over a 10-20 Year span.
Amazon is exhibit A for no-dividends CREW
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11-02-2021, 09:01 AM
#10087
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I use my oil div to pay for my gas, sometimes the cash flow is worth it, I get to drive for free!
I'd argue against dividends for all stock.
The tax disadvantage of dividends against compounding is obscene over a 10-20 Year span.
Amazon is exhibit A for no-dividends CREW
The tax disadvantage of dividends against compounding is obscene over a 10-20 Year span.
Amazon is exhibit A for no-dividends CREW
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11-02-2021, 09:03 AM
#10088
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Absolutely, just defining possible motivations. I'm not an expert in any capacity. Just aware of why I am here and that there are a lot of others like me.
I'd argue against dividends for all stock.
The tax disadvantage of dividends against compounding is obscene over a 10-20 Year span.
Amazon is exhibit A for no-dividends CREW
The tax disadvantage of dividends against compounding is obscene over a 10-20 Year span.
Amazon is exhibit A for no-dividends CREW
Stock adoption rate has been the sole generator of wealth from investment for a lot of people. Pretty incredible.
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11-02-2021, 09:04 AM
#10089
Originally Posted By SipNPiz⏩
Imagine if those dividends were instead held inside the company, re-invested tax free for further growth, and the dividend you had to pay tax on was instead logged as a capital gain, tax-free…
I use my oil div to pay for my gas, sometimes the cash flow is worth it, I get to drive for free!
Spread that over 10 years, and you have dizzying amounts of gains you've missed by collecting dividends.
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11-02-2021, 09:20 AM
#10090
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
You’re not wrong, I started investing last March, originally I just wanted to beat the rate I was getting on my savings, I set the bar really low lol. This year I set my goal for returns 5x higher than last year and I’ve already reached my goal for the year. Next year I think I’ll be more growth centric.
Imagine if those dividends were instead held inside the company, re-invested tax free for further growth, and the dividend you had to pay tax on was instead logged as a capital gain, tax-free…
Spread that over 10 years, and you have dizzying amounts of gains you've missed by collecting dividends.
Spread that over 10 years, and you have dizzying amounts of gains you've missed by collecting dividends.
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11-02-2021, 09:31 AM
#10091
We’re approaching the 392 resistance on qqq so I bought some December puts. Vixx is low and we’re headed into fed bs.
11-02-2021, 10:08 AM
#10092
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
-Names their company after a character that steals from the rich and gives to the poor
-Builds their platform around gamification of stock trading and gainzzzzz
-Purports free trading while making money through payment for order flow
-Sells data to the rich
Never would have guessed that Robinhood has been sketch from Day 1
-Builds their platform around gamification of stock trading and gainzzzzz
-Purports free trading while making money through payment for order flow
-Sells data to the rich
Never would have guessed that Robinhood has been sketch from Day 1
Yeah I wish they would have a money making glitch again.
They're bleeding.
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Yep
just from talking heads from google searches but it makes sense
they can keep splitting the stock and raising capital because their userbase will just throw in
they can keep splitting the stock and raising capital because their userbase will just throw in
Originally Posted By jordanair45⏩
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Yeah I don't see it happening any time soon
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
this
I think being a savvy investor now means reading the audience.
these companies aren't offering dividends. what's the point of owning stock at all? speculation.
I think being a savvy investor now means reading the audience.
these companies aren't offering dividends. what's the point of owning stock at all? speculation.
Social sentiment is one of the best indicators right now. In and out for me daily on most everything.
11-02-2021, 10:27 AM
#10093
reloaded XOM $65c for $1 for Nov. Hoping for a moonshot to $70 for no reason
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11-02-2021, 10:34 AM
#10094
RIVN automolibe incoming IPO…
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11-02-2021, 11:20 AM
#10095
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Are you saying stock adoption rate/more people buying stock is the reason for stock price appreciation? Amazon and Alphabet have grown their stock price without ever paying a dividend based entirely on earnings growth. Amazon trades at a lower P/E multiple than they have in the past several years. There are a lot of companies that do not pay a dividend but still grow earnings at 20% CAGR. Whether a company pays a dividend or not is a reflection of that company's business model, capital structure, free cash flow from operations, growth outlook, capital expenditure profile, etc. As long as a company can grow earnings, whether those earnings are paid out to shareholders today or not, their stock price should increase. Earnings today might be paid out as dividends five years from now… or they might not. Either way, it doesn't matter to the investor - return is return (whether it is from share appreciation or dividends)
Absolutely, just defining possible motivations. I'm not an expert in any capacity. Just aware of why I am here and that there are a lot of others like me.
Stock adoption rate has been the sole generator of wealth from investment for a lot of people. Pretty incredible.
Stock adoption rate has been the sole generator of wealth from investment for a lot of people. Pretty incredible.
Don't fall into the dividend trap where you think an investment only has "value" if the company pays dividends to shareholders… you will only limit your returns that way
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11-02-2021, 11:22 AM
#10096
Companies not offering dividends now could very well begin offering them in the future when they continue maturing and running out of growth opportunities. Traders and funds etc don't need to sit on speculative growth stocks in their line of work, but early investors can benefit from the speculation and stock price appreciation by sitting on unrealized gains and funding their lifestyles with loans against their investments while waiting for these companies to eventually begin offering dividends at what would be a huge % relative to their initial investment.
Aside from dumping a company you built, return of capital through profits generated by the company is how you make money as a real businessperson. Build company, provide product/service in exchange for $$$ while incurring costs, hopefully make a profit, and pay yourself out of that profit. If you're more focused on growth, chances are you won't be paying yourself much and it's the same idea with publicly traded companies but on a larger scale.
100% of my income nowadays is dividends because I own an incorporated company through which I invoice other companies, and then I pay myself in dividends from my company
Aside from dumping a company you built, return of capital through profits generated by the company is how you make money as a real businessperson. Build company, provide product/service in exchange for $$$ while incurring costs, hopefully make a profit, and pay yourself out of that profit. If you're more focused on growth, chances are you won't be paying yourself much and it's the same idea with publicly traded companies but on a larger scale.
100% of my income nowadays is dividends because I own an incorporated company through which I invoice other companies, and then I pay myself in dividends from my company
11-02-2021, 11:23 AM
#10097
Bought a **** load of RBLX here
am I gonna make it
am I gonna make it
11-02-2021, 11:30 AM
#10098
Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
RIVN automolibe incoming IPO…
talk to me boyos
talk to me boyos
Tesla truck needs more holes.
I'm more than likely going to try and get a piece of the IPO pie.
Bezos attempt to dethrone emperor Musk.
11-02-2021, 11:41 AM
#10099
RIVN valuation is going to be high around 50-60B but I bet it will get closer to 80 out the gate. Anything EV has soared the past year and this one is backed by Amazon and Ford. If I can get in early, it’s on.
So SBEA…
Anyone had Black Rifle coffee?
So SBEA…
Anyone had Black Rifle coffee?
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11-02-2021, 11:56 AM
#10100
Made a $708 play this morning.
Woke up, saw that this stock, which I never heard of, was blowing up today. Stared at the trend and it just wouldn't stop moving up. Bought in at ~$9.50, got a shower, and then once the shower was over I decided to sell at ~$11. Probably could've gotten as much as $12-$12.50/share out of it, but ah well.
I call that a "golden shower."
Woke up, saw that this stock, which I never heard of, was blowing up today. Stared at the trend and it just wouldn't stop moving up. Bought in at ~$9.50, got a shower, and then once the shower was over I decided to sell at ~$11. Probably could've gotten as much as $12-$12.50/share out of it, but ah well.
I call that a "golden shower."
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11-02-2021, 12:00 PM
#10101
Originally Posted By Visel⏩
das it mane
Made a $708 play this morning.
Woke up, saw that this stock, which I never heard of, was blowing up today. Stared at the trend and it just wouldn't stop moving up. Bought in at ~$9.50, got a shower, and then once the shower was over I decided to sell at ~$11. Probably could've gotten as much as $12-$12.50/share out of it, but ah well.
I call that a "golden shower."
Woke up, saw that this stock, which I never heard of, was blowing up today. Stared at the trend and it just wouldn't stop moving up. Bought in at ~$9.50, got a shower, and then once the shower was over I decided to sell at ~$11. Probably could've gotten as much as $12-$12.50/share out of it, but ah well.
I call that a "golden shower."
11-02-2021, 12:06 PM
#10102
Looks like DWAC is starting to go for another run lol.
I bought back in at $56.60 and it's up to $66.50 now
I bought back in at $56.60 and it's up to $66.50 now
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11-02-2021, 12:14 PM
#10103
Originally Posted By Visel⏩
Gjdm
Made a $708 play this morning.
Woke up, saw that this stock, which I never heard of, was blowing up today. Stared at the trend and it just wouldn't stop moving up. Bought in at ~$9.50, got a shower, and then once the shower was over I decided to sell at ~$11. Probably could've gotten as much as $12-$12.50/share out of it, but ah well.
I call that a "golden shower."
Woke up, saw that this stock, which I never heard of, was blowing up today. Stared at the trend and it just wouldn't stop moving up. Bought in at ~$9.50, got a shower, and then once the shower was over I decided to sell at ~$11. Probably could've gotten as much as $12-$12.50/share out of it, but ah well.
I call that a "golden shower."
It’s nice to play a momentum stock when you see it.
I probably banged your mom.
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11-02-2021, 12:15 PM
#10104
Originally Posted By monty097⏩
I think it will be another GME/AMC for a while due to the amount of bag holders when it first mooned.
Looks like DWAC is starting to go for another run lol.
I bought back in at $56.60 and it's up to $66.50 now
I bought back in at $56.60 and it's up to $66.50 now
I probably banged your mom.
Eat the whole animal like a real man.
11-02-2021, 12:16 PM
#10105
Originally Posted By monty097⏩
Wish I seen It earlier. I just bought a single call for November 5th.
Looks like DWAC is starting to go for another run lol.
I bought back in at $56.60 and it's up to $66.50 now
I bought back in at $56.60 and it's up to $66.50 now
67 dolla call
Was going to throw another 5k on gte this morning kind of Glad I woke up at 10.30 and didn't do it
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11-02-2021, 12:28 PM
#10106
So fuk it I grabbed a few hundred shares of SBEA. This thing could moon (or crash). I’ll gamble that it’s going to rise now.
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11-02-2021, 12:43 PM
#10107
"Paper money is going away" - EM
11-02-2021, 01:06 PM
#10108
I think the Rivian truck is getting some solid reviews from people who have gotten their hands on it, unless I’m mistaking it for something else
11-02-2021, 01:10 PM
#10109
Destor what is the advantage of paying yourself dividends from your incorporated company vs paying yourself normally?
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