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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LXXVI: Headshots for Jesus

post 1595760611 01-16-2020, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
Why are side plates not a good thing?
Mostly weight. Side plates on the IBA weighed an additional 7.75 lb...the whole armor system weighed over 33 lbs. That's before factoring in ammunition, nods, water, food, and other essential equipment.
Due to the increased dangers of improvised explosive devices, newer versions of the vital plates and components have been developed. The Enhanced Small Arms Protective Inserts (ESAPIs) and Enhanced Side Ballistic Inserts (ESBIs) have become available, along with the Deltoid and Axillary Protector System (DAPS). These new systems are becoming the standard for forward deployed troops. The E-SAPI plates offer increased protection from 7.62mm armor-piercing ammunition. The ESBIs is an attachable MOLLE ballistic panel with a pouch for a 8x6 side-SAPI, for protection of the side of the torso/under the arm. DAPS consists of two ambidextrous modular components, the Deltoid (upper arm) Protector and the Axillary (under arm) Protector, and provide for additional protection from fragmentary and projectiles to the upper arm and underarm areas. With the IBA, E-SAPI plates (10.9 pounds), ESBIs (7.75 pounds), DAPS (5.03 pounds) and with the neck, throat and groin protectors installed the armor is significantly heavier at 33.1 pounds (15 kg).
There's "protection" as in, I can bounce bullets, and then there's not getting shot in the first place because you were wearing 100+ lbs of kit when you only needed 50 lbs of equipment to perform your mission.

When it comes to the steel armor I see larpers buying up, side plates are probably detrimental in the best of circumstances. Deflecting a bunch of spall into the nerves and arteries in your arm pit is potentially worse than taking the round with no protection.
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
Mostly weight. Side plates on the IBA weighed an additional 7.75 lb...the whole armor system weighed over 33 lbs. That's before factoring in ammunition, nods, water, food, and other essential equipment.



There's "protection" as in, I can bounce bullets, and then there's not getting shot in the first place because you were wearing 100+ lbs of kit when you only needed 50 lbs of equipment to perform your mission.

When it comes to the steel armor I see larpers buying up, side plates are probably detrimental in the best of circumstances. Deflecting a bunch of spall into the nerves and arteries in your arm pit is potentially worse than taking the round with no protection.
Thank you for the detailed explanation, I appreciate it.
post 1595761371 01-16-2020, 10:35 PM
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What's the allure of a Spas-12? Is there a legitimate reason to purchase one if I have a 590A1 and an AK12? I understand that the soft parts should be replaced if I do purchase one and I see this as a plus because I would gain a better understanding of how it operates when I do this. If I decide to get a Spas it would delay my purchase of a lever gun/rifle and a CZ 75 Tactical Sport. However the Spas is alluring because of its limited availability.
post 1595770191 01-17-2020, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
What's the allure of a Spas-12? Is there a legitimate reason to purchase one if I have a 590A1 and an AK12? I understand that the soft parts should be replaced if I do purchase one and I see this as a plus because I would gain a better understanding of how it operates when I do this. If I decide to get a Spas it would delay my purchase of a lever gun/rifle and a CZ 75 Tactical Sport. However the Spas is alluring because of its limited availability.
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post 1595770261 01-17-2020, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What are you talking about?
Vegas lifters post about an AR found online
the above post is not serious and is for entertainment purposes only.
Thanks for your time.
post 1595777291 01-17-2020, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What are you talking about?
I'm glad I'm not the only one confused about what's going on.
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post 1595777451 01-17-2020, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
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Hell yeah brother

Wanted one for years when I was a kid lol
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post 1595779361 01-17-2020, 08:28 AM
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Parts for lightweight AR pistol are starting to arrive. Trying to get it down to 4 lbs, and stay under $1500.


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[QUOTE=FL_Z32 post_id=1595779361]Parts for lightweight AR pistol are starting to arrive. Trying to get it down to 4 lbs, and[b]stay under $1500.[/b]


[img]https://i.imgur.com/NsLBlTD.jpg[img][/QUOTE]
Must be why you cheaped out on the notebook.
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You guys were making fun of me but look, I was right. Geissele has lost their minds.

post 1595781411 01-17-2020, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
That's actually kind of funny. I'm not sure I would find it funny if I were still waiting on my order though...
Don't agree to wait 8 weeks if you are going to start whining after like 4 weeks (it has as of today still been less than 8 weeks since the 35% sale ended)
Originally Posted By NeckbeardKilla⏩
Will anyone file a lawsuit fighting it or otherwise though?
Lawsuits already failed. They are appealing to VA Supreme Court but apparently that is expected to fail as well.

The government doesn't have to follow the law, duh. Seriously, they don't, and there's nothing anybody ever does about it. They have the biggest and most organized group of armed enforcers so they can do whatever the **** they want
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Don't agree to wait 8 weeks if you are going to start whining after like 4 weeks (it has as of today still been less than 8 weeks since the 35% sale ended)



Lawsuits already failed. They are appealing to VA Supreme Court but apparently that is expected to fail as well.

The government doesn't have to follow the law, duh. Seriously, they don't, and there's nothing anybody ever does about it. They have the biggest and most organized group of armed enforcers so they can do whatever the **** they want
Obvi. The laws are for filthy civvies. Statists are above that.
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post 1595782111 01-17-2020, 09:13 AM
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post 1595782121 01-17-2020, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
You guys were making fun of me but look, I was right. Geissele has lost their minds.

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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser⏩
Must be why you cheaped out on the notebook.
Notebook was free from work!
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If you go to lobby day please be aware that this is a trap. They are going to paint everyone there are white nationalists and the antifa *******s literally have nothing to lose and are going to try to get someone to shoot them. Right wing activism doesn't usually work. Northam wants an incident and the police there are going to do everything in their power to give it to him. Stay safe guys and if you go use EXTREME caution. Hopefully this thing works out and Virginia lives up to their motto without any actual violence
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post 1595782991 01-17-2020, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
If you go to lobby day please be aware that this is a trap. They are going to paint everyone there are white nationalists and the antifa *******s literally have nothing to lose and are going to try to get someone to shoot them. Right wing activism doesn't usually work. Northam wants an incident and the police there are going to do everything in their power to give it to him. Stay safe guys and if you go use EXTREME caution. Hopefully this thing works out and Virginia lives up to their motto without any actual violence
you sound like a fairweather fudd LEO.

Leave the heavy lifting to this man



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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
you sound like a fairweather fudd LEO.

Leave the heavy lifting to this man



Can't see those links at work so I don't know if this is a joke or not. I'm not a fudd or a bootlicker. I just don't want this thing to turn into Charlottesville 2.0 and give the media an excuse to start pushing gun control again. Maybe the organizers for this thing are smarter than the ones for Charlottesville but that is exactly what the cops and Northam are gonna try to turn it into. Make no mistake they want violence.

I not asking anyone to beg the enemy for mercy or suck their dink just be careful if you go cause it is a trap.
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Well so far, CZ's customer service is worse than Sig's.

Emailed them a week ago for a warranty question. No reply. Just tried calling and got their "we're currently closed" message, saying to call back between 9-5pm CST. It's 12:08 there.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Well so far, CZ's customer service is worse than Sig's.

Emailed them a week ago for a warranty question. No reply. Just tried calling and got their "we're currently closed" message, saying to call back between 9-5pm CST. It's 12:08 there.
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Got to say I’ve had ruger for a while and their customer service has been great the one time I needed it
the above post is not serious and is for entertainment purposes only.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
You guys were making fun of me but look, I was right. Geissele has lost their minds.

I don’t understand
Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Well so far, CZ's customer service is worse than Sig's.

Emailed them a week ago for a warranty question. No reply. Just tried calling and got their "we're currently closed" message, saying to call back between 9-5pm CST. It's 12:08 there.
What do you need to warranty?
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Originally Posted By rahfulz⏩
I don’t understand
I haven't cared to look but I'm guessing the newly announced G marked scope is made in Japan and not China? Or, IDK, one way or the other they want to spur discussion of that scope and where it's made.

Also, that is a scene from King of the Hill where they ask the new neighbor (Khan) if he is Chinese or Japanese. He is however from Laos, but, you know, blue collar Texas guys a couple decades back didn't know what or where the hell Laos was. The WWII pacific theater vet knew Khan was from Laos, though, without having to ask.
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Originally Posted By rahfulz⏩
I don’t understand



What do you need to warranty?
Bought a Tactical Sport I found in new old stock. The trigged has a little hitch about 1/8" before the break. No big deal right? Except that hitch is actually partially disengaging the hammer. I can cock it back and hear it click into place again if I take up the slack past that point.

My buddy's doesn't have the same issue. I want them to make sure it's not an actual safety issue since the hammer moving during take up seems really strange.
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lol, good luck
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I haven't cared to look but I'm guessing the newly announced G marked scope is made in Japan and not China? Or, IDK, one way or the other they want to spur discussion of that scope and where it's made.

Also, that is a scene from King of the Hill where they ask the new neighbor (Khan) if he is Chinese or Japanese. He is however from Laos, but, you know, blue collar Texas guys a couple decades back didn't know what or where the hell Laos was. The WWII pacific theater vet knew Khan was from Laos, though, without having to ask.
Thanks. I need to rewatch king of the hill.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Bought a Tactical Sport I found in new old stock. The trigged has a little hitch about 1/8" before the break. No big deal right? Except that hitch is actually partially disengaging the hammer. I can cock it back and hear it click into place again if I take up the slack past that point.

My buddy's doesn't have the same issue. I want them to make sure it's not an actual safety issue since the hammer moving during take up seems really strange.
You have the absolute worst luck buying guns I have ever seen. Everything you get seems to be broken in one way or another.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Bought a Tactical Sport I found in new old stock. The trigged has a little hitch about 1/8" before the break. No big deal right? Except that hitch is actually partially disengaging the hammer. I can cock it back and hear it click into place again if I take up the slack past that point.

My buddy's doesn't have the same issue. I want them to make sure it's not an actual safety issue since the hammer moving during take up seems really strange.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
You have the absolute worst luck buying guns I have ever seen. Everything you get seems to be broken in one way or another.
Lmao. If you knew how many times I've heard "that's impossible, let me see that" then had someone try it themselves and be shocked I wasn't lying.

It even goes for parts. Bought a Johnny Glock trigger shoe. I was the first out of his new manufacturers shipment and they got the specs wrong. Was too wide to fit with the slide release. You have to punch through the factory trigger to remove it on a gen 5, so now I've got no trigger for my 34 while he sends me a replacement.

*edit*

Also, Dan Wesson sent me a bushing wrench with my bull barrel instead of the bull barrel tool.

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Originally Posted By rahfulz⏩
Thanks. I need to rewatch king of the hill.
That's my purse! I don't know you!
Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
You have the absolute worst luck buying guns I have ever seen. Everything you get seems to be broken in one way or another.
If you could not quote the troll some of us would appreciate it.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Farley, Weapon Outfitters has A5 H2, 3, and 4 buffers.

They just posted it on Instagram 10 mins ago and I grabbed an H2.
I...already received this order. Literally less than 48 hours later. How tho
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