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05-11-2021, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩
dont even know whats happening anymore

must be nice being a hedge fund manager. just throw more money at a losing trade until the other party bails out. aka retail investors
do you really think that hedge fund managers are responsible for retail losses?
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05-11-2021, 07:50 AM
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Finally a time holding too much cash can feel good.
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05-11-2021, 08:00 AM
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do you really think that hedge fund managers are responsible for retail losses?
Lots of money in hedge funds is “retail” too, just pooled together and managed by an organization (pension funds, labour unions, etc)
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05-11-2021, 08:01 AM
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wtf. I had VXX calls that wont expire for another 10 days but apparently it split last week and now these calls are worthless and gibberish. Look at the May 21st VXX chain. Damn it wtf! The last I checked I was green on them and I should be up a bag or so by now, instead I'm down 97%.
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05-11-2021, 08:03 AM
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do you really think that hedge fund managers are responsible for retail losses?
yes. they are the ones pushing and pulling the market, so retail traders close out their positions - benefitting them

even if a trade goes against them, they have an almost infinite amount of buying power - so they'll just overpower the other side until they give in, whether its a short or a long

essentially the person with the most money wins

the irony is the people investing in hedge funds still lose due to fees. they have all this money but are too dumb to realise they'd be better off putting their millions in an index
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05-11-2021, 08:04 AM
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Up a few hundred on palantir because I bought the dip today.

Could sell my whole position, while it's temping to be able to dollar cost down my other positions, that long term potential with it makes me want to hold it through this bumpy period.





Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
lots of *conspiracy theories from the amc gme folks… HF need $$$ to cover or to keep shorting/spoofing/ladder stacking the stocks they shorted to infinity and beyond…

plus more sec rules coming in that will force them to have $$$ so they don't over leverage… something is gonna pop sooner or later in my opinion

I believe so as well. It's looking primed and ready lol. Couple more weeks I'm thinking of steady up trends then takes off between $12-14.

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thing is, I took massive losses prior to all of this and called it quits. withdrew all my money. I made peace with that move because I was still up 60% or so, and didn't lose any of my actual money, just house money.

then decided, let's just mess around with $5k. put it in some "safe" positions.

Bought 75 MARA at $37, thinking since it's down from $57 that was a good buy, and since BTC/ETH were doing well
Bought 100 PLTR at $21 thinking that was the floor
Bought 150 PSFE at $13.75 thinking earnings would be good

everything tanked. MARA down to $22, PLTR down to $16, PSFE down to $11. It's fuking ridiculous, not even worth it anymore, I should've just stayed out

just holding PSFE now since it probably won't go much lower if at all, and I still think it'll bounce back. that, and I have $5 june calls for AHT which is up quite a bit

Man, just hold if you don't need the cash right now for bills/mortgage payments. Don't let the emotions get you.





Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩
yes. they are the ones pushing and pulling the market, so retail traders close out their positions - benefitting them

even if a trade goes against them, they have an almost infinite amount of buying power - so they'll just overpower the other side until they give in, whether its a short or a long

essentially the person with the most money wins

the irony is the people investing in hedge funds still lose due to fees. they have all this money but are too dumb to realise they'd be better off putting their millions in an index

Isn't most tech/growth shorted right now?
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05-11-2021, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
lots of *conspiracy theories from the amc gme folks… HF need $$$ to cover or to keep shorting/spoofing/ladder stacking the stocks they shorted to infinity and beyond…

plus more sec rules coming in that will force them to have $$$ so they don't over leverage… something is gonna pop sooner or later in my opinion

missed this post.

if this was happening

GME would not be dropping with rest of market.



rblx missed earnings

but now ripping +11%
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05-11-2021, 08:07 AM
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knew this day started too good to be true

back to thinking whether to take losses i guess
u are not gonna make all the money at once (i think you said 15-20% loses) - it is not a red day so live to fight another day imho

it is ugly for me with enph and sq but I will take okishhh day as a victory for now
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05-11-2021, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
u are not gonna make all the money at once (i think you said 15-20% loses) - it is not a red day so live to fight another day imho

it is ugly for me with enph and sq but I will take okishhh day as a victory for now
not red for pltr but red for others i own

the fact that somehow pltr didn't crash completely after earnings is good news however those which spiked before (amzn, appl) etc, tanked shortly afterwards
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05-11-2021, 08:09 AM
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wtf. I had VXX calls that wont expire for another 10 days but apparently it split last week and now these calls are worthless and gibberish. Look at the May 21st VXX chain. Damn it wtf! The last I checked I was green on them and I should be up a bag or so by now, instead I'm down 97%.
Damn that sucks, why not just play the VIX?
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05-11-2021, 08:13 AM
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One good thing about this downturn is ppl in my personal life are not talking about the market like they know everything.

started in March with rainbows and unicorns…

crickets now. love it.

they done learned.
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05-11-2021, 08:14 AM
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EXPI!



Thank god. Scared ****less buying the dip yesterday but it paid off today. I can finally get out of this position with a very small loss.



Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
missed this post.

if this was happening

GME would not be dropping with rest of market.



rblx missed earnings

but now ripping +11%

AMC though
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05-11-2021, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By lntense⏩
Isn't most tech/growth shorted right now?
yes
See title.

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05-11-2021, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
One good thing about this downturn is ppl in my personal life are not talking about the market like they know everything.

crickets now. love it.

they done learned.
The funniest part of all is things will go right back up and everyone that sold for a loss is gonna be mad
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05-11-2021, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted By lntense⏩
EXPI!



Thank god. Scared ****less buying the dip yesterday but it paid off today. I can finally get out of this position with a very small loss.

AMC though
AMC numbers look disgusting…

it is going to pop yes or yes - everyday is getting worse for the HF
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05-11-2021, 08:23 AM
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05-11-2021, 08:31 AM
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Curious what your plays are for the two scenarios:

1) Hyperinflation?

2) We get an interest rate hike?

I have been going in on commodity and value ETFs, but am nervous that an interest rake hike will cause my commodities to tumble, so being cautious. Also, lots of puts at the moment, especially against meme stocks.
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05-11-2021, 08:35 AM
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yes
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The funniest part of all is things will go right back up and everyone that sold for a loss is gonna be mad

Exactly. This reassures me holding my current positions.
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AMC numbers look disgusting…

it is going to pop yes or yes - everyday is getting worse for the HF
Yeahhh
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05-11-2021, 08:40 AM
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Are you seriously posting investing advice from an account called "Bitcoin_Schmitcoin"?
See title.

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05-11-2021, 08:41 AM
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The funniest part of all is things will go right back up and everyone that sold for a loss is gonna be mad
Yup.

Was abut 4.5k down to start today….now….about 1.4….stuff slowly turning green.
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The funniest part of all is things will go right back up and everyone that sold for a loss is gonna be mad
Seeing a few people in here who need to begin doing the exact opposite of what they're currently doing IMO


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Are you seriously posting investing advice from an account called "Bitcoin_Schmitcoin"?
Lol what advice? Just a good picture. Must've struck a nerve?
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Yup.

Was abut 4.5k down to start today….now….about 1.4….stuff slowly turning green.
i think the sector that got decimated by all this is the growth IPOs

and i hold 3 of them lol
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05-11-2021, 08:47 AM
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Lol what advice? Just a good picture. Must've struck a nerve?
Nah, I don't even have tesla
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05-11-2021, 08:47 AM
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i think the sector that got decimated by all this is the growth IPOs

and i hold 3 of them lol
Lolz i could buy that. I've got TSLA and ARKG. Theyve gotten creamed.

Realistically it's frustrating because this chit always seems to happen when i want to cash out the capital and invest elsewhere. Have the opportunity to potentially go halfsies with a buddy on a commercial property and it's a fantastic opportunity.

BRB market tanks and i lose 20k in 2 weeks.
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05-11-2021, 08:52 AM
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Curious what your plays are for the two scenarios:

1) Hyperinflation?

2) We get an interest rate hike?

I have been going in on commodity and value ETFs, but am nervous that an interest rake hike will cause my commodities to tumble, so being cautious. Also, lots of puts at the moment, especially against meme stocks.
Probably Bitcoin srs
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05-11-2021, 08:53 AM
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Curious what your plays are for the two scenarios:

1) Hyperinflation?

2) We get an interest rate hike?

I have been going in on commodity and value ETFs, but am nervous that an interest rake hike will cause my commodities to tumble, so being cautious. Also, lots of puts at the moment, especially against meme stocks.

Averaging in to bitcoin and etfs
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05-11-2021, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Curious what your plays are for the two scenarios:

1) Hyperinflation?

2) We get an interest rate hike?

I have been going in on commodity and value ETFs, but am nervous that an interest rake hike will cause my commodities to tumble, so being cautious. Also, lots of puts at the moment, especially against meme stocks.
Won't be hyperinflation. Imo, its commodities, banks, and grocery stores.
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05-11-2021, 08:55 AM
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break 20 palantir you piece of sh*t
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05-11-2021, 08:55 AM
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