Can't wait to see the glorious wall and the BLM people thrown over it.

MAGA

Either way we are FUKED.

Only the blind think Trump will "save us"

Obama bots 2.0

And what is this based on? I also didn't realize that NATO relied on the Bulgarian, Greek and Ukrainian military.

Yeah maybe they should look at how the referendum voted or maybe you should study the history of Crimea, good try though. Or maybe we should send Americans to die for an extremely old dispute that has nothing to do with anything and only harms both countries involved in it, yeah?

Then get out of the EU and fix your country. Also I'm pretty sure if Greece wanted to fix their country, they would start by cleaning out the Islamic filth pouring through their borders. Is America supposed to be the Greek savior because they want to run their country into the ground?

Yeah I'm mentally outgunned by the person who wants to burn Trump supporters alive, you're just too much, with all the names you call and your "I CAN'T EVEN, DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THAT??? UHG HOW STUPID ARE YOU???" attitude, it's hard to compete.

Check out the female misc then, you'll find a lot of wk poofs to kiss your ass for regurgitating ill informed liberal opinions, unfortunately your vaginal currency doesn't get you much on the misc, hope this helps.

Choosing a president has always been about choosing the lesser of two evils and Hillary is worse than satan

Hilary respects Angela Merkel's immigration policies - I think that's all you need to know.

With Hillary it'll be a slow, dark demise of the West.


Trump will win the election though. He'll tone it down as the election gets closer. Like a game of chess or a hard sale he's making all the right moves.

Beeriful 2min....



Cliffs:
Hillary should be nervous also

i'll vote for him.

protectionism is just another season and i feel like its been time since 1973 or so.

liberal but #neverhillarycrew.

legalize it crew

Its like approaching 2 wild dogs, one of which has just eaten the hand of the last man to try and pet it right before your eyes, while the other is not fur sure to be a hand eater. I will try to pet the second dog 100% of the time, based on the odds that I know the first one will eat my hand off, whereas Im not sure about the second ones intent.

Hilary being the first dog.

Long time lurker here, signed up with an account just to reply to this. No offense, but my feathers were ruffled. Being a lurker, I'm aware of the proper etiquette... Noticing that you are a female, I hearby tip my fedora hat to you. *Fedora tip* The cordiality ends here.

Firstly, I wanted to point out that between Greece, Estonia Bulgaria, and Ukraine, that Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO. This is a major folly on your part, because Russia has stated time and time again, that a Ukraine membership in NATO would be grounds for war.

(Had source, but post count not high enough to put it here. Just look at Nato website)

Secondly, of those other 3, Greece and Estonian expidentures do actually seem to meet the 2% requirement of GDP spending as designated by NATO. I lazily searched on the topic, but i found a simple source here:

(Had source, but can't post, just google "These NATO countries are not spending their fair share on defense")


The real free riders are the rich, Western democracies such as Britain, Germany, and France. Oh, Canada too -they seem to only reach the 1% mark. Yes, as NVIOUS says, these are all loathsome free riders. They are literally free riding, in the proper sense of the term. The U.K. looks a little better in this regard, because they at least stood by the U.S. in Iraq. Canada seems alright too in that regard. Germany is the biggest culprit, they have the larger GDP than France and Britain, but contribute significantly less to NATO.

Even worse, smaller richer nations like Luxembourg and Belgium are very suspect. Luxembourg literally has the highest GDP per capita (or close to it) in Europe, but they also have the highest gap in ratio of GDP (per capita) to Nato contributions. They can surely contribute more than they do.

Finally, NATO is built on the principle of collective defense, and the collective GDP's of its members all add up to more than the GDP of USA. However, the US pulls the biggest weight, by far. (close to what, 70-75%?) This does not appear to be "collective" at all, but more unilateral.

Cliffs: 1. Ukraine is not NATO member, OP is incorrect in this example
2. Of the countries OP mentioned, Greece and Estonia actually do appear to meet the NATO contribution levels.
3. OP did not refute NVIOUS's point, which is that rich European nations are free riding, and that the U.S. is pulling the weight
4. Countries like France, U.K, Germany, Canada, and Luxembourg make pitiful contributions. Of these, Luxembourg is the worst (highest GDP, lowest contribution) Germany is also pretty bad in this regard, due to higher GDP but lower NATO contributions.


Overall: NATO was built on the principle of collective defense, but the U.S. provides for most of this defense, thus subsidizing certain countries' pie in the sky, happy go lucky lifestyles.


*Tips fedora hat* Gooday, M'aam.

voting for saxaphone, or clarinet, i can hear trumps bet, but with other instruments we're set.

Says this after having a closet Muslim in office the past 8 years move the country as far to the left as possible. At this point trump is an upgrade.

i prefer the west. including most of russia. we need to get our house together and do something for our people and our common history. that should be the task of nato. the other nations are going to have to wait for a few years.

nothing against everyone else, but its obvious sides have been drawn and our people are suffering.

i hate it more than you do.

#hillarynotevenoncegroup

Trump is basically a replica of Theodore Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson, Monroe Doctrice, etc., and that is what the US will become.

Personally, I love it! I think he is the kick in the ass the western world needs..

This.


He's coming in at just the crucial time.

I find it astonishing that anyone believes Trump is more dangerous than Hillary. The guy has run numerous successful enterprises and looked after the livelihoods of thousands of employees. Hillary has proven that she will do anything - legal or otherwise - if it will gain her power.

The choices are between a know nothing narcissist and a power hungry compulsive liar. Great choices