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post 1454605653 07-26-2016, 09:53 AM
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[QUOTE=Adjust91 post_id=1454576913]There's ALWAYS the risk of an attack... Here in the UK, Staffies are hated. It's purely because Chavs that own them will leave them alone with their kids then freak the fk out when it savages the kid.

Staffies are NANNY dogs. You couldn't find a nicer breed to look after a child. Since birth I've had dogs. Border Collies are my main as I compete Agility with them, do Sheep herding trials with them and compete Flyball. I've had Staffies, Huskies, Rhodesian Ridgebacks, German Shepherds, Terriers. They've all been amazing with people and other dogs. But I would NEVER leave them alone with a child. If I did and the child got bit, I'd blame the child.

Dogs will only lash out if they feel threatened. A Kid yanking on it's tail is going to fk it off. Imagine a kid yanking your hair... nah, I'd snap it's fking hand off too.

Pitbulls are awesome dogs. Just don't leave it alone with a kid is all I'm saying. My cousin in America has 3 and my brother and I go over each year to stay for a week with his niece and she will sit on the sofa with the 3 pits around her and they'll just all fall asleep together. But we'd never leave them alone. Both need a p!ss? ill wait, you go, ill go when you're back. It's not that we don't trust the dogs, we just don't trust the kid.

This is why if I ever had a kid I'd make sure it knew boundaries, especially around dogs. See a dog in public? ASK if you can go up to it, ASK if it's friendly etc... and NEVER go running up to a dog, they see that as very confrontational.

tl;dr. Pit's are fine, just make sure kids know their boundaries around them.[/QUOTE]thanks man! will be passing on this info to my lil guys mom

[QUOTE=Benjinkan post_id=1454580333]Generally smaller dogs are more aggressive/prone to biting, the reason Pits, Rotties etc. get a bad rep is that when they do it they cause way more damage than say a mean little Chihuahua.

As others have said, train it, exercise it, neuter it (should help with a calmer demeanor) and make sure its not left alone with the kid until hes older (kids tend to get munched when they do dumb stuff like tug on ears, or poke eyes).

Edit: Wizarded[/QUOTE]yup ive been bite by small dogs tied up outside the grocery store on 2 occasions...the big ones just sit and ppl watch waiting for their owners

[QUOTE=NateDieselF4i post_id=1454582993]Read first page - this is always highly debated. Pitbull and pitbull type of dogs are no more inherently vicious than any other dog breed. In fact their bull baiting heritage actually discouraged human aggression as it was an undesireable trait.

Which is why you don't see any bully breeds having typical guard dog type duties - bulldogs / bull terriers / staffies / APBT etc.

I grew up with APBT's. I own one now. he's the best dog ever.

EDIT: also lots of discussion here on fixing your dog - it has never been shown to lower aggression. You have a dominant/assertive dog and you neuter him. guess what - he's still dominant and assertive. My guy Kane, is still intact but I kept him that way b/c we're both active and I dont' worry about him getting out and getting female dogs knocked up. Nothing wrong with neutering your pet, in fact I encourage it most of the time, but take a look at some of the science behind it.

It also does NOT lower their incidence of cancer like most people say - unlike humans prostate enlargement in dogs is not tied to the sex hormones. Also if you fix a dog before they have fully developed (at least 1'ish) they will grow taller than they would nromally (this also happens in horses) and makes them more prone to hip displasia and related problems.

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[img]http://i.imgur.com/nK1DUZ5.jpg[/][/QUOTE]thank you for sharing bro, had no idea that neutering too early can lead to those complications


and them pics bro <3

i want nothing more than to nap with some puppers

[QUOTE=gixxer0.6g post_id=1454584663]"Raised" isn't the right word. Some pits are just naturally aggressive towards other animals as stated again and again. IMO, pits shouldn't go on walks or be in large groups of other dogs even if on a leash because you can't control other people's dogs coming up to yours. We had a highly animal aggressive one for several years and tried really hard to socialize her. We eventually couldn't take her out anymore because it became too much work because of other irresponsible pet owners would have their dogs off a leash and they'd come over to play. I would literally have to pick her up off the ground and hold her while I kick the other dog just to keep her from tearing the other one apart. We eventually had to put her down because my wife decided to take her to the store one day in her car. They hit a stop sign and the window was down half way. She saw another little dog in the front yard of a neighbor's house, jumped out and killed the dog in about 30 seconds. It took about 6 months worth of lawyers, thousands of dollars and having to put her down to get it resolved. This is what I mean when they require "extra responsibilities".' If your g/f is the type that wants to take your dog to the park to run around this is a bad choice of breed. The best place for one is in your house or in a fenced yard. Even a fenced yard can be dangerous because of other dogs coming up to the fence. I've seen these dogs plow through vinyl fences to get out. Some aren't this way but there is no real way to know.

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I didn't think you could have bully breeds in Canada?
Do you have a fenced yard?
Are you going to get him/her fixed?[/QUOTE]again thank you for the info...im sorry to hear about your last pupper...thats the animal kingdom tho i guess...ANY animal that get domesticated will jot lose ALL its instincts

1) as far as i know they are allowed...the province of quebec have been "in talks" of banning them
2) i dont, my ex does (doge will be with her)
3) more than oikely yes but as the above brah mentioned i need to research it more as theres a lot of misconception about it
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smash its skull with a hammer


wait what was the question?
post 1454606623 07-26-2016, 09:58 AM
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Just remember. If the jaws lock, a finger jammed up the bum would release it for sure
post 1454607163 07-26-2016, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Arsenal01
Ok brahs so my baby momma (lack of a better word) is getting a new born pit (after 6 weeks with their mom ofc)


There was a recent pit attack in the scummiest neighbourhood in my city (Im assuming shtty owner)


Ive never owned one but have been around them all my life...They were amazing imo, sooo playful and never felt threatened, but the owners had pits all their lives and know how to train them.


If she raises him properly (shes never had a pit but had animals all her life) would there still be any risk of an attack (unprovoked)


whats your opinion brahs!
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http://einhorninsurance.com/californ...perament-test/

Typical liberal media is brainwashing people to be afraid of harmless ****. The only dawg which surpasses them are labs.
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post 1454611623 07-26-2016, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By funkygrunt017
http://einhorninsurance.com/californ...perament-test/

Typical liberal media is brainwashing people to be afraid of harmless ****. The only dawg which surpasses them are labs.
wow thats crazy! 86.4% pass on the ATT temperament tests, even beating out golden retriever!
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I love pits, but forgetting all the chit about them being violent, they're a tough dog just because of how energetic/strong they are. Most pits I've known are very hyper and require tons of exercise to keep them calm. They're a lot of work, really best for a single guy or someone with land.
post 1454612663 07-26-2016, 10:38 AM
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Just a reminder about your 8 year old, and this tidbit goes for every larger dog with a smaller child. I've been around Pits a lot, used to do hydrotherapy for dogs so I've seen them at times where they really don't want to be where they are. They are extremely powerful and most times, don't remember how huge they are. They are extremely playful and when they jump up to play, they can be a handful. Been clawed more than I can remember by playful pits, and if a pit tries to play with a small child, it's even worse.

Be peppered for accidental injuries. Other than that, raise it right and you're good to go.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Just a reminder about your 8 year old, and this tidbit goes for every larger dog with a smaller child. I've been around Pits a lot, used to do hydrotherapy for dogs so I've seen them at times where they really don't want to be where they are. They are extremely powerful and most times, don't remember how huge they are. They are extremely playful and when they jump up to play, they can be a handful. Been clawed more than I can remember by playful pits, and if a pit tries to play with a small child, it's even worse.

Be peppered for accidental injuries. Other than that, raise it right and you're good to go.
thanks for input brah

he will be living with my son once the puppers hits 8weeks and hoping they get a great bond (my kid loves animals). im sure your experience will go for any large animals also

my friend has a huuuuge german shepherd who was adopted and abused with his previous owners but he amazing with my kid...lets him wrestle with him and does whatever and he just sits there lol
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Originally Posted By funkygrunt017
http://einhorninsurance.com/californ...perament-test/

Typical liberal media is brainwashing people to be afraid of harmless ****. The only dawg which surpasses them are labs.
I'll take my poorly behaved chihuahua biting my kids 30X in his lifetime over one pitbull bite.
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have always known them to be good dogs srs. just socialize the pup when you get it, take it on walks, around people etc. obvi when hes a puppy hes going to be biting everyone in a playful way thats what all puppies do. they should grow out of that phase within a couple of months. let your kid be around the dog and walk him as well etc.
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You're okay with your child's mother having a dog like that around your child? Knowing full well that she's never dealt with the breed before?

Well sh**, what time is the funeral?
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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY
You're okay with your child's mother having a dog like that around your child? Knowing full well that she's never dealt with the breed before?

Well sh**, what time is the funeral?
only wizards can own this dog?


look at the research posted itt...the only big dog with a better attitude or temperament are labs


brb schedule a funeral for all german shepherd and golden retriever owners first
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Originally Posted By weightsb4dates
have always known them to be good dogs srs. just socialize the pup when you get it, take it on walks, around people etc. obvi when hes a puppy hes going to be biting everyone in a playful way thats what all puppies do. they should grow out of that phase within a couple of months. let your kid be around the dog and walk him as well etc.
will do! i always hot the gym late and On my way! home theres a group of owners that bring there dogs out that i go say hi to

they have huskys boxers and pits...will bring my pupper around them as often as possible to get him used to other dogs
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Originally Posted By Arsenal01
thank you brah


this is what Im afraid of....was there any signs showing early on that one was going to be more aggressive than the other?
Not really man. He just started fitting the other one and we had to separate them and eventually sold one. IDK if he felt mistreated or what, but it just started happening.
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Originally Posted By Nelly87
Not really man. He just started fitting the other one and we had to separate them and eventually sold one. IDK if he felt mistreated or what, but it just started happening.
Dog-aggression can pop up anytime for pit bulls (it *is* what they were bred for); management is lifelong. That having been said, it is not human aggression... many people have DA pit bulls with multiple dogs- they just crate & rotate their dogs and stay away from strange dogs while on walks. Sweetest elderly pit I ever knew was Dog Aggressive... loved people, couldn't stand other dogs.
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piitb-ull owners when will they learn
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And a 2011 study from the Annals of Surgery revealed that "attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs."

Pit bulls join several other breeds on the list of dogs that are recognized as more likely to attack and cause significant injury: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed data and found the following breeds are implicated in a majority of dog-bite fatalities:

Pit bulls
Rottweilers
German shepherds
Huskies
Wolf hybrids
Malamutes
Doberman pinschers
Chow-chows
Saint Bernards
Great Danes
It's worth noting that no matter how these data are arranged mixed breeds versus pure breeds, injuries versus fatalities pit bulls consistently rank at the top of the list for attacks, and by a wide margin. (Rottweilers generally rank a distant second.)

Even the U.S. Army has acknowledged that pit bulls are high-risk dogs; they are therefore prohibited in some military housing units.

Even fans of pit bulls acknowledge the breed is different from other dogs. "I tell people right off the bat, if you want a dog-park-type dog, a dog you can just run off-leash, please do not get a pit bull," Ami Ciontos, founder and president of the Atlanta Underdog Initiative, a pit bull rescue group, told CNN.com.

...So we have surgeons saying pit bites lead to death more often. We have the United States Army agreeing pits are to high risk to have on base. We have a pit rescue organization founder telling people not to buy pits if your looking for a friendly dog.

I will admit my bias, as I have seen a 8year old girls face ripped off by a family pit that I petted and played with many times prior.

All this being said, I honestly wish OP and his family good luck.
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