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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
where exactly were the officers supposed to have time to do that? The dog barked then 2 seconds later was out the door, he barely had time to draw and fireNo it wouldn't. But I'll say that one thing should have happened. The cop should have told her to bring the dog with her to lock him up in a room. I understand the whole idea that the officer wants to see inside to ensure that his safety isn't in danger, but you're an idiot if you think the dog should've been killed.
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Originally Posted By Benihanas⏩
barking and charging is now not aggressive?Never even said "remove themselves from the situation" in any of my posts. Not once. Learn to read. Everything you're doing here is just giving subjective reasoning as to why they had justification.
It's not just about the tail. It's the entire behavior of the dog. The dog in the video was not displaying aggression at all. You're performing ridiculous mental gymnastics and focusing on subjective elements to try and prove your point. The cops weren't on public land, they were on private land. The doorstep of the apartment complex is still the private property of the complex owner. It's very clear that cops need training on animal behavior if this is your reasoning. Like I said before and you ignored, there are millions of people in America with dogs, and I'm sure situations come up all the time where they aren't secured while the owner is talking to the cops, yet they manage to stay alive.
Nothing you have provided ITT has been concrete reasoning to justify their actions. The only redeemable thing you have stated is that the owners had a responsibility to secure the dog, which is correct, but the cops also have a responsibility to react to certain situations WITHOUT RESORTING INSTANTLY TO DEADLY FORCE.
It's not just about the tail. It's the entire behavior of the dog. The dog in the video was not displaying aggression at all. You're performing ridiculous mental gymnastics and focusing on subjective elements to try and prove your point. The cops weren't on public land, they were on private land. The doorstep of the apartment complex is still the private property of the complex owner. It's very clear that cops need training on animal behavior if this is your reasoning. Like I said before and you ignored, there are millions of people in America with dogs, and I'm sure situations come up all the time where they aren't secured while the owner is talking to the cops, yet they manage to stay alive.
Nothing you have provided ITT has been concrete reasoning to justify their actions. The only redeemable thing you have stated is that the owners had a responsibility to secure the dog, which is correct, but the cops also have a responsibility to react to certain situations WITHOUT RESORTING INSTANTLY TO DEADLY FORCE.
it is your job to control your dog just as if that were a ups, mailman, gas man etc.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Just because you keep repeating this phrase, doesnt mean anyone said it.the dog clearly charged at the cop barking aggressively, your whole "wagging tail" is complete crap as a dog can easily still be attacking with its tail wagging as i already stated the video showing 2 dogs mauling an old man wagging their tails happily. The cops had a lawful reason to be there, not only that but they were in a public place, once the dog goes from private resident into the public that is the fault of the owners.Cops dont "remove themselves from the situation" stupiest thing ive ever heard
No one said the cops should remove themselves from the situation". What cops should be doing is handling situations differently. Not that anything we post will have an impact on you anyways tho.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Watched the video again. Officers had time instantly once the dog barked to call out to the owner, did not. 2 seconds later dog appears in the doorway, stops, does not cross the threshold, and is wagging it's tail. Stays in the doorway for 2 full seconds wagging and looking back for the owner before going outside. There was time to react with something different other than deadly force.where exactly were the officers supposed to have time to do that? The dog barked then 2 seconds later was out the door, he barely had time to draw and fire
Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
No, it's not, you're fukn retarded for thinking so.barking and charging is now not aggressive?
it is your job to control your dog just as if that were a ups, mailman, gas man etc.
it is your job to control your dog just as if that were a ups, mailman, gas man etc.
Barking is how dogs communicate you ****n mongoloid, happy, sad, angry, excited, etc. It doesn't automatically mean aggression.
The dog didn't charge. Watch the video. It clearly stops in the doorway/threshold.
You're being a real fukn douchebag here. I've tried to concede the only point of yours that makes sense, and you keep misquoting me and providing absolute dogchit logic.
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Thank you. Like talking to a brick fukn wall.Just because you keep repeating this phrase, doesnt mean anyone said it.
No one said the cops should remove themselves from the situation". What cops should be doing is handling situations differently. Not that anything we post will have an impact on you anyways tho.
No one said the cops should remove themselves from the situation". What cops should be doing is handling situations differently. Not that anything we post will have an impact on you anyways tho.
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make it a diet bby and i got uWelp, here we go.....
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The dog, based on video evidence, acted as if it were going to attack the officer. I think it is (unfortunately) justified that the cop felt threatened and pulled his gun to protect himself.
I hate seeing stuff like this though. Dogs are the goat.
I hate seeing stuff like this though. Dogs are the goat.
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84⏩
Yo the cops itt are getting schooled hard on common sense, reading comprehension, and the law. Stupid fuks.

yo the non cops itt are delusional and stupid
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
I still have yet to see you respond to over 50% of the logical points I've presented ITTyo the non cops itt are delusional and stupid
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Originally Posted By KENKONG⏩
if you read what i quoted....Funny though, you seem to be the only one ending most of your
replies calling people retard or stupid.
replies calling people retard or stupid.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
yo the non cops itt are delusional and stupid
Damn bro u got me. That higher education paid off. Oh wait...lol.
yo the non cops itt are delusional and stupid
Jk man you're clearly not only an animal behavior expert with certifications/residencies but also a general scholar.
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[QUOTE=dhawkeye1980 post_id=1462533363][/img]
yo the non cops itt are delusional and stupid[/QUOTE]Remember this guy is a cop everyone. They are unionized. Lack tons of training compared to pretty much every other 1st world country. Think they are above regular people and are frightened by them. Aren't held accountable for their actions. (Union)
yo the non cops itt are delusional and stupid[/QUOTE]Remember this guy is a cop everyone. They are unionized. Lack tons of training compared to pretty much every other 1st world country. Think they are above regular people and are frightened by them. Aren't held accountable for their actions. (Union)
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Originally Posted By Benihanas⏩
ive literally destroyed everything youve posted brah... it cant be anymore clearI still have yet to see you respond to over 50% of the logical points I've presented ITT
cops there legally in a public place
owner leaves door open
cop pushed door open to get a better view (legal)
dog comes out rushes cop
cop utilizes only means available at that point and is forced to shoot.
owners responsibility to secure dog...
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Only means available and FORCED to shoot? Falseive literally destroyed everything youve posted brah... it cant be anymore clear
cops there legally in a public place
owner leaves door open
cop pushed door open to get a better view (legal)
dog comes out rushes cop
cop utilizes only means available at that point and is forced to shoot.
owners responsibility to secure dog...
cops there legally in a public place
owner leaves door open
cop pushed door open to get a better view (legal)
dog comes out rushes cop
cop utilizes only means available at that point and is forced to shoot.
owners responsibility to secure dog...
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Originally Posted By TrueForester⏩
we get it, you hate cops still doesnt mean their actions were not justifiedRemember this guy is a cop everyone. They are unionized. Lack tons of training compared to pretty much every other 1st world country. Think they are above regular people and are frightened by them. Aren't held accountable for their actions. (Union)
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Originally Posted By TrueForester⏩
Of course they are, they were bullied from pre-k to grade 12. Usually the key motivation to become a cop, no surprise they quickly allow the power to take them over.Remember this guy is a cop everyone. They are unionized. Lack tons of training compared to pretty much every other 1st world country. Think they are above regular people and are frightened by them. Aren't held accountable for their actions. (Union)
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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩
okay cool lets see your police training you have had on what should have been doneOnly means available? False

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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
so you need police training to grab a dogs collar?okay cool lets see your police training you have had on what should have been done


wow where do i get my badge
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
literally the only point any of us agree on is the last one. the rest are all easily logically argued, yet you seem to be denying common sense for no good reasonive literally destroyed everything youve posted brah... it cant be anymore clear
cops there legally in a public placea residence is not a public place. brb inviting the homeless to crash in the corner of my room since it's public I guess
owner leaves door openthe owner clearly pushed the door so as to minimize the gap between the door and frame, which the officer stopped and reversed
cop pushed door open to get a better view (legal)whether or not it's legal, you can now argue that by doing that, he may have provoked the dog to come to the door, when it may not have otherwise
dog comes out rushes copthe dog clearly stopped in the doorway first before continuing. not really "rushing" him
cop utilizes only means available at that point and is forced to shoot.if that's his only means available to stop a dog less than half his size, he shouldn't be a cop
owners responsibility to secure dog...
cops there legally in a public placea residence is not a public place. brb inviting the homeless to crash in the corner of my room since it's public I guess
owner leaves door openthe owner clearly pushed the door so as to minimize the gap between the door and frame, which the officer stopped and reversed
cop pushed door open to get a better view (legal)whether or not it's legal, you can now argue that by doing that, he may have provoked the dog to come to the door, when it may not have otherwise
dog comes out rushes copthe dog clearly stopped in the doorway first before continuing. not really "rushing" him
cop utilizes only means available at that point and is forced to shoot.if that's his only means available to stop a dog less than half his size, he shouldn't be a cop
owners responsibility to secure dog...
and lol @ needing police training to handle this situation. you're really making yourself look stupid.
brb better go get my badge before I head to the dog park
brb better carry a gun on me anytime I go for a hike, because apparently that's what my training will tell me
my mind is still blown that I was legally allowed to work at a doggy daycare with no firearm or police training.
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84⏩
most cop haters were actually bullied by people in school who went on to do cool,chit like military and becoming a cop all while banging the prom queen, the cop haters usually go on to vet schoolOf course they are, they were bullied from pre-k to grade 12. Usually the key motivation to become a cop, no surprise they quickly allow the power to take them over.
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This is really deplorable, and I am not of those miscers who are so in love with animals who can't see things objectively, but in this situation the dogs did not deserve to get shut.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
seems im the only one with any common sense...literally the only point any of us agree on is the last one. the rest are all easily logically argued, yet you seem to be denying common sense for no good reason
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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩
because grabbing a 70lbs aggressive dogs collar is so easily done...so you need police training to grab a dogs collar?
wow where do i get my badge
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bottom line is the legal justification for the officer to use deadly force was justified whether you like it or not
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
apparently, including a lack of common sense, you also lack reading comprehensionseems im the only one with any common sense...
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
lmao you're either the biggest pussy or the worst troll. my dog is 82 lbs and my 100lb gf can grab his collar and stop him. I've seen an autistic girl below 5' stop a pitbull from charging another dog.because grabbing a 70lbs aggressive dogs collar is so easily done...
If that's your excuse, please find a new line of work asap, and please refer my autistic ex coworker for your position, as she would make me feel safer
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
This isn't even remotely true lmfao. Stop acting like an imbecile.most cop haters were actually bullied by people in school who went on to do cool,chit like military and becoming a cop all while banging the prom queen, the cop haters usually go on to vet school
To be fair I don't hate all cops. Couple buddies of mine became cops, smart guys and chill as hell. I hate STUPID cops, sociopathic cops, and cops that accept and abuse their privilege as such to do whatever they fuk they want. There's 2 kinds of cops, and sadly you and that other bozo ITT are the latter.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Answers.ive literally destroyed everything youve posted brah... it cant be anymore clear
cops there legally in apublic placeFalse, private property of the complex owner
owner leaves door open --- false/subjective, owner clearly makes a motion to close the door while the cop clearly uses force to push the door open, twice
cop pushed door open to get a better view (legal) --- have heard different perspectives on the actual legality of that ITT, can't definitely say you're correct
dog comes out rushes cop --- completely false, and you've entirely ignored my posts breaking down the appearance of the dog and the time they had, as well as my posts on behavior. Cops clearly need training on dogs.
cop utilizes only means available at that point and is forced to shoot. --- only means available!? forced to shoot!? false on both accounts. Why did the one officer, who was CLOSER to the dog, draw only a baton, while the second drew his gun? Clearly the first officer felt that he had an available option to diffuse the situation with a baton...
owners responsibility to secure dog...
cops there legally in apublic placeFalse, private property of the complex owner
owner leaves door open --- false/subjective, owner clearly makes a motion to close the door while the cop clearly uses force to push the door open, twice
cop pushed door open to get a better view (legal) --- have heard different perspectives on the actual legality of that ITT, can't definitely say you're correct
dog comes out rushes cop --- completely false, and you've entirely ignored my posts breaking down the appearance of the dog and the time they had, as well as my posts on behavior. Cops clearly need training on dogs.
cop utilizes only means available at that point and is forced to shoot. --- only means available!? forced to shoot!? false on both accounts. Why did the one officer, who was CLOSER to the dog, draw only a baton, while the second drew his gun? Clearly the first officer felt that he had an available option to diffuse the situation with a baton...
owners responsibility to secure dog...
Not to mention you're still ignoring about 30% of my other posts as they pertain to cops understanding of dog behavior, the fact that this same scene has played out numerous times in America without the dog getting shot, the fact that the cops had other options available to them to handle the situation, the post where I broke down the video and the appearance of the dog, etc. etc.
keep cherry picking and providing zero support for your assertions, you also haven't backed up any of your statements with factual evidence except for one link regarding home entry
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
so before they were cops, when hey were younger, picking on people, then grow up to be police who then use their badge as a shield to commit other crimes against people. solid life choices.most cop haters were actually bullied by people in school who went on to do cool,chit like military and becoming a cop all while banging the prom queen, the cop haters usually go on to vet school
and just to be clear, im not a cop hater but I do hate cops like you. my brother is a cop and he would never subscribe to your delusional rantings
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84⏩
This isn't even remotely true lmfao. Stop acting like an imbecile.
To be fair I don't hate all cops. Couple buddies of mine became cops, smart guys and chill as hell. I hate STUPID cops, sociopathic cops, and cops that accept and abuse their privilege as such to do whatever they fuk they want. There's 2 kinds of cops, and sadly you and that other bozo ITT are the latter.
To be fair I don't hate all cops. Couple buddies of mine became cops, smart guys and chill as hell. I hate STUPID cops, sociopathic cops, and cops that accept and abuse their privilege as such to do whatever they fuk they want. There's 2 kinds of cops, and sadly you and that other bozo ITT are the latter.
Originally Posted By Benihanas⏩
brahs, after his comment about how hard it would be to hold a 70lb collar, i'm convinced he's trying to be a really bad troll.Answers.
Not to mention you're still ignoring about 30% of my other posts as they pertain to cops understanding of dog behavior, the fact that this same scene has played out numerous times in America without the dog getting shot, the fact that the cops had other options available to them to handle the situation, the post where I broke down the video and the appearance of the dog, etc. etc.
keep cherry picking and providing zero support for your assertions, you also haven't backed up any of your statements with factual evidence except for one link regarding home entry
Not to mention you're still ignoring about 30% of my other posts as they pertain to cops understanding of dog behavior, the fact that this same scene has played out numerous times in America without the dog getting shot, the fact that the cops had other options available to them to handle the situation, the post where I broke down the video and the appearance of the dog, etc. etc.
keep cherry picking and providing zero support for your assertions, you also haven't backed up any of your statements with factual evidence except for one link regarding home entry
or he's the pussiest cop in existence
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Why wouldn't the cop who decided to open the door all the way close it once he hears a dog barking if he felt threatened? Also dhawk is a *******
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