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Originally Posted By Youppi⏩
These guys train to be hit on their bodies as well, some places the only thing you can do is not get hit good or hope you at least don't get hit at the wrong time.Average miscer is 6'2" 220lbs shredded, what damage would this do against their rock hard abs?
I believe second guy was hit in the solarplexus while he was exhaling, IDK if you've ever had the wind knocked out of you but that's what happened there.
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains⏩
Floyd's speed and power mostly shined at the lower weights, but his power didn't truly diminish until the "Money" Mayweather era. That's when Floyd started "love-tapping" for points.Yeah, I meant compared to other professional fighters in his weight class.
He had some pretty decent pop though when he was starting out at 130 lbs (when he was young and before the hand problems), but even then it paled in comparison to the real heavy hitters like Diego Corrales (who also got his ass whopped by Floyd).
He had some pretty decent pop though when he was starting out at 130 lbs (when he was young and before the hand problems), but even then it paled in comparison to the real heavy hitters like Diego Corrales (who also got his ass whopped by Floyd).
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
yea but who was rock hard abs?These guys train to be hit on their bodies as well, some places the only thing you can do is not get hit good or hope you at least don't get hit at the wrong time.
I believe second guy was hit in the solarplexus while he was exhaling, IDK if you've ever had the wind knocked out of you but that's what happened there.
I believe second guy was hit in the solarplexus while he was exhaling, IDK if you've ever had the wind knocked out of you but that's what happened there.
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Speaking of smaller guys and KO power, I got reminded of Rafael Marquez. He often lived in the shadow of his older brother, Juan Manuel Marquez, who was also the better fighter, but Rafael had some serious power in his punches at bantam (118 lbs). The crazy thing was that you could almost feel the weight of his punches in his fights, which is something that you almost never see with the smaller guys.
Fight starts at 11:30 and only lasts for a couple rounds. It's also funny how his legs are practically chopsticks. All his weight is concentrated in his upper body.
Fight starts at 11:30 and only lasts for a couple rounds. It's also funny how his legs are practically chopsticks. All his weight is concentrated in his upper body.
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Originally Posted By StainlesSon⏩
This is a fight to the death, no rules, you can easily hack his superior boxing skills by charging on guard head low and restrain him in a lock, at that point there's nothing he can do because you will overpower him, so you just need to endure the first flutter of punches and get close enough
This is what will happen to you *******. Makes me laugh that most of you miscer's are so delusional, thinking you can overpower a trained fighter just because you outweigh him by a few pounds.
Also, just fukin LOL at the ex us military miscers thinking they can over power a trained fighter.
Lost the vietnam war to a bunch of 4 foot manlets and still ramble about about being able to punch out a fighter. Just LOL
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Lol can't believe this debate is still going on. I bet all of you *******s will get ktfo fighting this guy street fight or not. You can be many time stronger but it's more about speed, timing and power. I guarantee you he hits harder than you in a fight, srs. You can hit a bag harder but in a fight buzzed on adrenaline with a constantly moving target who hits back, if you are not experienced you will never get enough time to throw your power shots, unless you resort to Haymarkers but he will see it coming from a mile away. If you don't have the timing down your punches won't do chit. Fighters also learned to take punches tucking the chin, keeping hands up, footwork, shoulders rolled.
This isof course assuming you have no combat training experience. If you disagree boxing gyms are everywhere, go and ask to spar lmao, remember to tape it and post for the lulz.
There's a visible size, reach and age difference in this vid (the boxer is amateur and is 16 years old). Even with protection of a headgear, you can still get fuked up, even by an amateur boxer.
The guy on the OP is a fuking world champion. You're delusional if you think the outcome will be different, especially in a street fight where he can punch you in the balls, back of the head, poke your eyes out.
This isof course assuming you have no combat training experience. If you disagree boxing gyms are everywhere, go and ask to spar lmao, remember to tape it and post for the lulz.
There's a visible size, reach and age difference in this vid (the boxer is amateur and is 16 years old). Even with protection of a headgear, you can still get fuked up, even by an amateur boxer.
The guy on the OP is a fuking world champion. You're delusional if you think the outcome will be different, especially in a street fight where he can punch you in the balls, back of the head, poke your eyes out.
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yeah I could take him. no way I'd stand toe to toe and slug it out though. he's a boxer. he's probably got zero experience with defending takedowns, zero ground game, etc. would just take it to the ground asap
other alternative would be to try your luck rushing him and getting him in the clinch. again, game over for him at that point.
only issue occurs if you have a glass jaw and get caught in the right spot while shooting for the takedown or trying to get inside on him for the clinch
other alternative would be to try your luck rushing him and getting him in the clinch. again, game over for him at that point.
only issue occurs if you have a glass jaw and get caught in the right spot while shooting for the takedown or trying to get inside on him for the clinch
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some of you guys are delusional. he said till death. means he's going to go for 1 uppercut directly to your balls because you think hes only gonig to hit your face, as you curl downwards, non stop head shots till you die
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The average ******* miscer getting knocked out by an old man.
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yeah, I wrestled in high school during my freshman year. With all the skills I learned I'm positive I could take him down and gnp his ass.
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Originally Posted By DoctorKazama⏩
This. Another example from the same old man.The average ******* miscer getting knocked out by an old man.
Obviously they weren't going 100 percents but you can see the old man schooling the manmore despite the strength, size, reach and age difference. I've said it and I'll say it again, the people who think they can beat an elite fighter cuz they're bigger has obviously never fought any trained fighter.
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Obviously a sucker punch but it shows the right punch in the right place will put away most people, regardless of size, and a boxing champion will easily land a KO from any angle.
Trained fighter vs trained fighter with a big gap in skill. Granted it's MMA but the KO was done through punches.
Lol at you mentals thinking you can take on a boxing champion.
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In an entirely open space? Most guys he would tag the hell out of, possibly even knock out (skeptical of this though) but if he made a mistake and got taken hold of, game over. In this scenario it depends on 1.) can miscer weather the storm and 2.) will he be grabbable
In a room with walls and obstacles, **** no, he stands no chance. You again would have to weather the storm, but it would be much easier to get your hands on him. I do mma but have a boxing background, and let me tell you closed spaces / spaces that aren't open and the same size of the ring are a HUGE problem, and that's for any striking but especially boxing because you only have one tool (fists). I'm only a white belt I'm bjj and have no wrestling experience. I know I could light up your average joe that's a lot stronger and bigger, but closed spaces make me nervous. If a strong dude gets ahold of you somehow, game over, even if you're Floyd mayweather on the streets.
In a room with walls and obstacles, **** no, he stands no chance. You again would have to weather the storm, but it would be much easier to get your hands on him. I do mma but have a boxing background, and let me tell you closed spaces / spaces that aren't open and the same size of the ring are a HUGE problem, and that's for any striking but especially boxing because you only have one tool (fists). I'm only a white belt I'm bjj and have no wrestling experience. I know I could light up your average joe that's a lot stronger and bigger, but closed spaces make me nervous. If a strong dude gets ahold of you somehow, game over, even if you're Floyd mayweather on the streets.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Love the old man's form.....also turns out he's a former two time world championThis. Another example from the same old man.
Obviously they weren't going 100 percents but you can see the old man schooling the manmore despite the strength, size, reach and age difference. I've said it and I'll say it again, the people who think they can beat an elite fighter cuz they're bigger has obviously never fought any trained fighter.
Obviously they weren't going 100 percents but you can see the old man schooling the manmore despite the strength, size, reach and age difference. I've said it and I'll say it again, the people who think they can beat an elite fighter cuz they're bigger has obviously never fought any trained fighter.
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Originally Posted By 300BLK⏩
Yep. But even in his prime he's nowhere as good as the boxer in the OP, who's a triple champion and only lost once. He will put miscers to sleep.Love the old man's form.....also turns out he's a former two time world champion
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With a gun sure.
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210lbs done wrestlign and boxing sicne I was a kid.... i'd wreck this little *******.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
This all sounds good in theory but a raging criminal is massively less dangerous than an elite fighter. In reality his incredible speed, footwork and fighters instincts would allow him to easily evade your clumsy, blundering charge. You'd eat a few brutal shots in the process, which would be the beginning of the end for 99% of miscers regardless of size.....I'm 5'8", 220lb, 10 years of serious lifting under my belt. Reasonable cardio endurance. For a living, I work security in a correctional facility, and have had to deal with grown men weighing anywhere from 190-380lb as tall as 6'4" single handedly while they went on assaultive rampages, all while being required to do everything in my power to not cause serious harm to the inmates.
So while I respect this guy, and fully admit he would whoop my ass in a boxing match - I am 100% confident I'd destroy him if allowed to linebacker tackle him and wrestle. Totally different ballgame. Again, I do this against guys 6+ inches taller and 100+lb heavier than me for a living on a routine basis. This wouldn't be my first rodeo.
So while I respect this guy, and fully admit he would whoop my ass in a boxing match - I am 100% confident I'd destroy him if allowed to linebacker tackle him and wrestle. Totally different ballgame. Again, I do this against guys 6+ inches taller and 100+lb heavier than me for a living on a routine basis. This wouldn't be my first rodeo.
Makes me wonder if anyone here has ever taken hard shots to the face? From a guy like that with his power and accuracy.... You're talking broken bones, possible concussion, disorientation, buckling knees etc. You'd likely instinctively clutch your face/head and give him the opening to use you as a punching bag until your legs go and your tour comes to an end by head stamps etc
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Of course, just give me about 1 month to train. Unlike 90% of the misc who have never been in a real fight or done combat sports, I actually did use to box, plus I have a good 4 inches and 15 kgs on him.
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Originally Posted By Slayermanlet⏩
^^ truth.Makes me wonder if anyone here has ever taken hard shots to the face? From a guy like that with his power and accuracy.... You're talking broken bones, possible concussion, disorientation, buckling knees etc. You'd likely instinctively clutch your face/head and give him the opening to use you as a punching bag until your legs go and your tour comes to an end by head stamps etc
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
Lol that's only 30 lbs advantage max. Lmao "used to box" guy vs a world champion. I currently train in Muay Thai and I know there's no chance I will win against him. It seems like you haven't done enough boxing to be aware of your capability.Of course, just give me about 1 month to train. Unlike 90% of the misc who have never been in a real fight or done combat sports, I actually did use to box, plus I have a good 4 inches and 15 kgs on him.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Let's just say I sparred Vic Darchinyan when I was just 17, he's also a former world champion. On top of that I sparred with a couple of Olympians who had a good 5-10 kgs on me...I didn't just do it as a hobby, I was serious about it, only reason I stopped is because I injured my knee. Now if it was a guy like Manny Pacquiao who is a lot closer to my weight and height, i would probably get KO'd within 1 round, most miscers wouldn't last 2 seconds against him.Lol that's only 30 lbs advantage max. Lmao "used to box" guy vs a world champion. I currently train in Muay Thai and I know there's no chance I will win against him. It seems like you haven't done enough boxing to be aware of your capability.
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
Lol I sparred with Lerdsila, doesn't make me a good Muay Thai fighter, I'm a novice at best. Until you fight against them in the ring sparring with someone means nothing. Senior fighters spar with novice all the time. Doesn't mean a thing.Let's just say I sparred Vic Darchinyan when I was just 17, he's also a former world champion. On top of that I sparred with a couple of Olympians who had a good 5-10 kgs on me...I didn't just do it as a hobby, I was serious about it. Now if it was a guy like Manny Pacquiao who is a lot closer to my weight and height, i would probably get KO'd within 1 round, most miscers wouldn't last 2 seconds against him.
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
Just lol. 4 inches and 15kg means NOTHING when you're talking about such a skill disparityOf course, just give me about 1 month to train. Unlike 90% of the misc who have never been in a real fight or done combat sports, I actually did use to box, plus I have a good 4 inches and 15 kgs on him.
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
You realize Pacquiao started boxing in the exact same weight class as the boxer in the op right...?Let's just say I sparred Vic Darchinyan when I was just 17, he's also a former world champion. On top of that I sparred with a couple of Olympians who had a good 5-10 kgs on me...I didn't just do it as a hobby, I was serious about it, only reason I stopped is because I injured my knee. Now if it was a guy like Manny Pacquiao who is a lot closer to my weight and height, i would probably get KO'd within 1 round, most miscers wouldn't last 2 seconds against him.
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would love to see the look of a miscer after a clean liver shot from this guy.
in b4 "im x body weight, his punches wont hurt me"
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Originally Posted By DoctorKazama⏩
"Probably" get KO'd "in a round".....You realize Pacquiao started boxing in the exact same weight class as the boxer in the op right...?
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Originally Posted By Slayermanlet⏩
So you're assuming my skill level, have you even seen me box? I guarantee you've never touched a pair of gloves in your life let alone got into a streetfight, don't speak about something you know nothing about. Besides, weight is the biggest factor in boxing by far. There's a high chance he would beat me since he's a pro boxer but I'm not counting myself out completely. And lol if you think this guy's skill level is anywhere near Pacquiao'sJust lol. 4 inches and 15kg means NOTHING when you're talking about such a skill disparity
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
When you mentioned sparring Vic Darchinyan, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, because anyone can get opportunities to put some work in...but you're implying you're up there? I'd rate Vic a B- boxer, and most don't even come close to that. Even D level boxers (the bums that pros KO frequently at the beginning of their career) could wreck your average joe, so...that'd be wasted talent if you really put yourself up thereSo you're assuming my skill level, have you even seen me box? I guarantee you've never touched a pair of gloves in your life let alone got into a streetfight, don't speak about something you know nothing about. Besides, weight is the biggest factor in boxing by far. There's a high chance he would beat me since he's a pro boxer but I'm not counting myself out completely.
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
I can safely assume that you're a decent amateur at best, and that's a huge stretch since you 'used to box' and you're only 23, having boxed at 17. No fuking way on the planet can you touch an elite pro boxer. Let's just say he can KO people who can KO you and I don't mean it in a rude way, I respect all brahs who do combat sports, but lettuce be real tea here you need to see a psychiatrist with that level of delusion lmaoSo you're assuming my skill level, have you even seen me box? I guarantee you've never touched a pair of gloves in your life let alone got into a streetfight, don't speak about something you know nothing about. Besides, weight is the biggest factor in boxing by far. There's a high chance he would beat me since he's a pro boxer but I'm not counting myself out completely. And lol if you think this guy's skill level is anywhere near Pacquiao's
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I'd bicep curl his head off.
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