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ยป Am I Missing Out a Lot by Not Having Children?
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Just seems like way too much time, effort and money to put into a life that's not my own.
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Originally Posted By wincel
lmao ok biology is bs u are right

srsly what does all life have in common? it survives to replicate. That is the purpose of life. Everything else is an abstraction of that one basic idea. Everything else we do was meant to support that one basic goal. That's why we love sex so much. We evolved to love sex. That's why so many people define their lives around their kids. Life is literally about raising kids.

If you voluntarily invest energy in your own survival without fathering children, you are literally cucking yourself. You are investing your own energy in someone else's reproductive success since you contribute to the economy. Think about it. A phucking rapist who fathers kids is considered better than you from an evolutionary standpoint. You lose the evolutionary game.

If you want to cuck yourself, go right ahead, but Javier is winning. If you people knew anything, you'd take measures to stop Javier from having kids while having your own. Those brutal warmongers who killed all the men and took their women had the right idea. People like Genghis Khan were the most successful humans, while men like Isaac Newton never fathered children. It's a cuck or be cucked world bro.
We are expendable there is no need for us to go on a highorse here on passing on your "genes".
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Threads like this pop up about once a week.

Kids are DEFINITELY not for everyone. Have 2 kids now, and financially, we're stable. Money isn't really an issue, and can't imagine how much more stress that would put on everything if money was always a concern.

Second is a few months old. I'm more involved with the second ... holding him more, changing more diapers, helping put him to bed, etc. I'm able to enjoy those moments that went by with a blur with the first since we didn't know what we were doing. Hard to explain that feeling of picking up your crying child, comforting him, and watching him fall asleep in your arms.

Both kids are relatively easy to care for. But even so, it's the hardest thing I've had to do, and most days it's a struggle. Didn't marry until my 30's, so was set in my ways. Kids change everything, especially, multiple kids. Forget about having time to yourself, until late in the evenings. You have to always be with them, entertain them, take them to their activities. There's no more you time. You constantly have to clean up after them ... change diapers, clean up after they eat, clean up their toys, it's endless. For sanity sake, it's good to be on a schedule, but after a while, that schedule becomes monotonous, and can start to drive you crazy.

I used to be an easy going, laid back bro. Kids have made me angry a lot ... have to discipline and try to teach them stuff. It's not something I enjoy, and is frustrating to me most times. Disciplining and getting on them is probably the hardest part. Then there are the play dates with other parents and their kids. Not something I find very enjoyable. Not sure how I'll make it through the next 18 years, but I take it one day at a time. A lot of times, I question my ability to be a good dad. At the very least, I can provide a roof, food, and opportunities that I never had. Love my kids, but think long and hard on whether it's for you or not.
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Originally Posted By BroncManiac
Threads like this pop up about once a week.

Kids are DEFINITELY not for everyone. Have 2 kids now, and financially, we're stable. Money isn't really an issue, and can't imagine how much more stress that would put on everything if money was always a concern.

Second is a few months old. I'm more involved with the second ... holding him more, changing more diapers, helping put him to bed, etc. I'm able to enjoy those moments that went by with a blur with the first since we didn't know what we were doing. Hard to explain that feeling of picking up your crying child, comforting him, and watching him fall asleep in your arms.

Both kids are relatively easy to care for. But even so, it's the hardest thing I've had to do, and most days it's a struggle. Didn't marry until my 30's, so was set in my ways. Kids change everything, especially, multiple kids. Forget about having time to yourself, until late in the evenings. You have to always be with them, entertain them, take them to their activities. There's no more you time. You constantly have to clean up after them ... change diapers, clean up after they eat, clean up their toys, it's endless. For sanity sake, it's good to be on a schedule, but after a while, that schedule becomes monotonous, and can start to drive you crazy.

I used to be an easy going, laid back bro. Kids have made me angry a lot ... have to discipline and try to teach them stuff. It's not something I enjoy, and is frustrating to me most times. Disciplining and getting on them is probably the hardest part. Then there are the play dates with other parents and their kids. Not something I find very enjoyable. Not sure how I'll make it through the next 18 years, but I take it one day at a time. A lot of times, I question my ability to be a good dad. At the very least, I can provide a roof, food, and opportunities that I never had. Love my kids, but think long and hard on whether it's for you or not.
Sounds like a great time. Think I'll pass.
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Originally Posted By wincel
lmao ok biology is bs u are right
Just bc you can does not mean you should or are obligated to. I can butt fuk other guys but you aren't obligated to. You chose to do so, just like having a kid. Buttsex = kids.
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Originally Posted By mikefazackerley
No

Everyone I know who has had children = bitterly tired and miserable.

Children, especially in 2017 are degenerate af and ruin lives.
I think one reason for this is because parents nowadays seem to feel obligated to schlep their kids all over the place and to have them involved in all sorts of activities.

When I was a kid my mother sent us outside and told us to be back by dinner.

They never schlepped us around we made our own fun.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
Holy hnnng man...you look amazing

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Thank you!
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Adoption of an older kid is always a choice.

My grandpa told me that one thing he wish he would have done after his wife passed was adopt a child and raise him to be a proper man.
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Originally Posted By WorldWarZ
Just bc you can does not mean you should or are obligated to. I can butt fuk other guys but you aren't obligated to. You chose to do so, just like having a kid. Buttsex = kids.
ya and choosing to have kids = adaptive, not choosing to have kids = ur genes are deleted from the pool

one is losing the evolutionary game and the other is winning....what kind of mental gymnastics have u cucked urself into

those of u who dont have kids or adopt without fathering ur own are literally cucks. you are investing your own energy and resources in someone else's reproductive success over your own. There is no greater sin in the eyes of nature than to be a cuck *******. Your genes will be deleted from the pool so that there will be more selfish phuckers who spawn more offspring. Their replication strategies are more successful than yours. As a conscious lifeform, you can choose not to play the evolutionary game, but then you are allowing one tiny aspect of your existence, your conscious mind, to hold back your body. Your body will keep trying to survive and replicate whether your mind functions properly or not. Remember that. we evolved minds specifically because they were helpful for us to develop better strategies for survival and replication.

To put it bluntly, when you grow older and your survival is no longer guaranteed, you will regret not passing your genes on to offspring. Javier will beat you at the game.
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Originally Posted By wincel
ya and choosing to have kids = adaptive, not choosing to have kids = ur genes are deleted from the pool

one is losing the evolutionary game and the other is winning....what kind of mental gymnastics have u cucked urself into
There is no evolutionary game anymore. Autistic and down children are allowed to thrive, people with mutations and congenital illnesses can live, people with serious infection susceptibility are cured and propagate.it sounds harsh but we aren't selecting better genes anymore, in fact inferior genes are propagating thanks to medicine.
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Originally Posted By wincel
ya and choosing to have kids = adaptive, not choosing to have kids = ur genes are deleted from the pool

one is losing the evolutionary game and the other is winning....what kind of mental gymnastics have u cucked urself into

those of u who dont have kids or adopt without fathering ur own are literally cucks. you are investing your own energy and resources in someone else's reproductive success over your own. There is no greater sin in the eyes of nature than to be a cuck *******. Your genes will be deleted from the pool so that there will be more selfish phuckers who spawn more offspring. Their replication strategies are more successful than yours. As a conscious lifeform, you can choose not to play the evolutionary game, but then you are allowing one tiny aspect of your existence, your conscious mind, to hold back your body. Your body will keep trying to survive and replicate whether your mind functions properly or not. Remember that. we evolved minds specifically because they were helpful for us to develop better strategies for survival and replication.

To put it bluntly, when you grow older and your survival is no longer guaranteed, you will regret not passing your genes on to offspring. Javier will beat you at the game.
Pretty strong argument, difficult to argue against this.

I think whoever argues against this is coping.
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Originally Posted By ExPatriot
Once you make a decision for yourself then you will know the answer; no one here can provide anything other than their own experience which won't be your experience...

Never wanted any but caved in to a moment of weakness / stupidity and now I am a father and wish that I wasn't...
Lmao strong dad
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Originally Posted By J90
Thoughts on just having one child?
I am an only child and it rocked.

My child is going to be an only child because its been one year and theres no phucking way i am going through another year like this one.
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Originally Posted By ExPatriot
Well the upside is we divorced immediately after and he only knows me as the guy who sends the child support checks...

#stupidestthingIhaveeverdone
How do you live with yourself?
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Originally Posted By ExPatriot
Well the upside is we divorced immediately after and he only knows me as the guy who sends the child support checks...

#stupidestthingIhaveeverdone
Yeah that sounds like a real upside. Wtf is wrong with you
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Originally Posted By wincel
ya and choosing to have kids = adaptive, not choosing to have kids = ur genes are deleted from the pool

one is losing the evolutionary game and the other is winning....what kind of mental gymnastics have u cucked urself into

those of u who dont have kids or adopt without fathering ur own are literally cucks. you are investing your own energy and resources in someone else's reproductive success over your own. There is no greater sin in the eyes of nature than to be a cuck *******. Your genes will be deleted from the pool so that there will be more selfish phuckers who spawn more offspring. Their replication strategies are more successful than yours. As a conscious lifeform, you can choose not to play the evolutionary game, but then you are allowing one tiny aspect of your existence, your conscious mind, to hold back your body. Your body will keep trying to survive and replicate whether your mind functions properly or not. Remember that. we evolved minds specifically because they were helpful for us to develop better strategies for survival and replication.

To put it bluntly, when you grow older and your survival is no longer guaranteed, you will regret not passing your genes on to offspring. Javier will beat you at the game.
Passing on your genes for what unless my genes are a cure to a viral outbreak or cancer im letting it die with me why is everything being selfish for. Can't you enjoy you own life as it is without selfishly bringing more into life into this miserable planet Javier is a selfish prick for passing on his genes like do we really need more humans on this planet like what's the reason. Tomorrow isn't promised to anybody so having kids in my eyes is a big waste of time.
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This thread has brought the lols. "How would I ever be able to go spend money on chitty bar food and stay up until 3am playing video games if I had a kid?!"
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Originally Posted By harmsxwhey
This thread has brought the lols. "How would I ever be able to go spend money on chitty bar food and stay up until 3am playing video games if I had a kid?!"
I'll out it in better perspective for you.

How will I ever afford trips all over the world (or take said trips with a toddler)? How will I ever afford that sweet man cave? How will I ever have time to spend with the boys or even doing half the cool chit I'd like to do?

These are all reasons not to have a child. If u don't mind sacrificing these things, then have a kid.
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Originally Posted By ExPatriot
Quite easily; live your life and I will live mine...Simples
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You know how I live my life? Fixing kids whose parents are losers and deadbeats

Get fixed
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Originally Posted By ExPatriot
Quite easily; live your life and I will live mine...Simples



Nothing; I have a cawk and not a drippy gash so I can call it like I feel it...
Lol how old is the lil cocksucker?
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84
I'll out it in better perspective for you.

How will I ever afford trips all over the world (or take said trips with a toddler)? How will I ever afford that sweet man cave? How will I ever have time to spend with the boys or even doing half the cool chit I'd like to do?

These are all reasons not to have a child. If u don't mind sacrificing these things, then have a kid.
I have a kid, have been on 3 vacations since he's been born (all taken by the time he was 8 months old), 3 planned for next year, buying a garage gym setup from Rogue as soon as I get home from deployment, and hang out with friends whenever the fuk I want. Keep making excuses.
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Originally Posted By harmsxwhey
I have a kid, have been on 3 vacations since he's been born, 3 planned for next year, buying a garage gym setup from Rogue as soon as I get home from deployment, and hang out with friends whenever the fuk I want. Keep making excuses.
Good on you, that's not the reality for 99.9% of fathers.
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Lol everytime anyone brings up our biological purpose. Who gives a flying ****? Once you are dead, das it. Having brought to life 1 or 2 useless ****s doesn't mean anything.
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Originally Posted By PKneyr
Lol everytime anyone brings up our biological purpose. Who gives a flying ****? Once you are dead, das it. Having brought to life 1 or 2 useless ****s doesn't mean anything.
Word.
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Anyone on here who didn't want kids originally, but now has kids?

How did it work out... and how do you feel about it? Please be 100% honest.
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84
Good on you, that's not the reality for 99.9% of fathers.
That's bullchit. People fall into that mindset before they have kids and just go with the flow without trying to make it work. My brother is a single parent with full custody of his daughter. He manages to take her on camping trips all throughout summer, and has taken her on trips all over the country. It comes down to working harder with the time you have so that you can still enjoy yourself and your time with your kids. Most guys are just selfish *******s and aren't willing to put in extra effort to make their schedules work with their kids and their social life.
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Originally Posted By J90
Anyone on here who didn't want kids originally, but now has kids?

How did it work out... and how do you feel about it? Please be 100% honest.
Me. See above. Also planning at least two more kids.
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Originally Posted By harmsxwhey
Me. See above. Also planning at least two more kids.
Good for you brah.

I'm 28 (stats are wrong) - in a 7 year relationship with my gf who I'm really happy with. Have our own house, 2 cats and a dog. Life is pretty much perfect right now.

She's been desperate for a baby for the past 3 years or so. But I'm so indecisive on this it's ridiculous (and I know it's a dealbreaker) - I have a niece who I love spending time with... but part of me is glad when my sister picks her up if that makes sense.

It's such a chit feeling not knowing if you want a kid or not. Throw away a relationship with someone who you imagine spending the rest of your life with.... Or bring a baby into this world with the chance that you might completely regret it.
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I will never feel the same way about my niece as I do my own son. But don't do something you genuinely don't want to do just to appease someone else. If this girl means that much to you, just have a sit down with her and talk it out, and then do some thinking by yourself and decided what YOU want. I love being a dad, but it's not for everyone.
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those of you who arent parents need to stfu ITT

im anti-marriage/kids crew but dont talk like you know what the **** you're saying
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