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post 1523999981 10-26-2017, 09:19 PM
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Farley, what VP9 holster is that you posted on the first page?

Unreal how close the trigger ban was in IL. If they had held it to bumpstocks and nothing else it'd have passed most likely
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Seriously, what do you guys say to people who say gun control works, look at Australia ever since they got rid of guns they haven’t had any shootings/mass shootings?
Originally Posted By Murk
They don't want to call the problem out for fear of being labeled racist and targeting blacks, so they go after something that cannot object and then have the backing of the people that would call them racist had they gone after the gangs. It makes them look like they are "doing something" and tackling the problem. The gangs obviously do not care about gun laws, or drug laws, or laws against murder, robbery, rape, money laundering, ect.
A lot of truth. It’s not only restricted to African Americans but yes I would say at least 90% of gun problems relative to them in Chicago.
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
Seriously, what do you guys say to people who say gun control works, look at Australia ever since they got rid of guns they haven’t had any shootings/mass shootings?



A lot of truth. It’s not only restricted to African Americans but yes I would say at least 90% of gun problems relative to them in Chicago.
it depends who says it and in what situation.
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
Seriously, what do you guys say to people who say gun control works, look at Australia ever since they got rid of guns they haven’t had any shootings/mass shootings?



A lot of truth. It’s not only restricted to African Americans but yes I would say at least 90% of gun problems relative to them in Chicago.
The only time gun control comes up is after an event like Las Vegas. I always say giant, lasting policy decisions like that shouldn't be made after one event and I won't debate a topic I'm passionate and knowledgable about with someone who just hopped on the feels train and whats to act holier than thou on ********.
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
Seriously, what do you guys say to people who say gun control works, look at Australia ever since they got rid of guns they haven’t had any shootings/mass shootings?
But it didn't. Both the UK and Australia banned guns in 1996. Both have had more than one mass shooting since then. Mass murder has also occurred since, particularly mass arson attacks.

The crime rates of both countries actually increased for several years following the ban, and have only begun to decline in recent years. If the objective is to reduce gun violence, banning guns will work, eventually. However, that is useless if overall crime does not decrease. If you're arguing with someone that is only concerned with gun specific violence and not violence in general, it's a waste of time, IME.
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Australia enacted its gun ban in 1996. Murders have basically run flat, seeing only a small spike after the ban and then returning almost immediately to preban numbers. It is currently trending down, but is within the fluctuations exhibited in other nations.

source - australia's own gov website -http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html

i've used this countless times, but even though the murder rate stayed the same or even went up, these retards always say some dumb chit like "yeah well there were less mass shootings" - so then you get into a debate about the difference between a murder by itself and a murder done as part of a mass shooting.

its really insane how they mentally dont understand or refuse to see it
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Don't order anything from savinglots. I ordered two Excal matrix 380 crossbows. Now getting the run around that they have shipped but they might not have a tracking number for another 72 hours....uh it doesn't work like that. Probably dispute the charge later today or tomorrow if I don't see a tracking number so it's off my statement. Looks like that's a common practice for them despite them claiming they were in stock and shipping in 24hours. Seemed too good to be true for $610 each.....


Wakaa you do realize that IL CCL has preemption over Chicago pistol magazine ban don't you. You can have any capacity mags you want in a pistol by law if you have CCL. If FOID only the city ordinance would apply.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
You give them too much credit.

For many of them it is:

-Projection. They know what they would do if they had access to firearms, and those things are dangerous/bad, so they assume most other people would, too.
-Control. Gun control at the upper levels really isn't about guns, it really is about control. Many liberals/progressives fully understand that an armed populace is more difficult to force your will on, so they wish to disarm people in order to more efficiently use government (which is of course still armed) to force others into submission.
-Elitism/personal gain at the expense of others. Many of the rich/famous/politically connected who go on and on against guns, talk against guns, give money for gun control, are protected by armed guards, have police or armed private security details, live in expensive gated/guarded communities, and often even have "may issue" gun or carry permits. They just don't want YOU to be armed. They don't want the plebs/general population to be armed with any more than pitchforks, that just makes their guns/security all the more effective (and ties into the control aspect)

Then there are the ignorant masses aka sheep who believe the lies generated by the above who know they can dupe others into buying into gun control through intentionally misleading and deceptive rhetoric, false info, appeals to emotions, etc.
Oh, I wholeheartedly agree with this too. Progressivism is all about CONTROL. They want to regulate every aspect of your life, from how big of a soda you are allowed to have all the way up to what kind of insurance you must buy for your health. Conservatism is about individual liberties, getting to chose what road to take in life. I also agree with your statement about elitism.
What burns my balls the most: It seems like the biggest proponents of "gun control" are usually people who have never shot, or even seen a firearm in person. We all know the person: "Those assault rifle Ar15's are used by the soldiers in Iraq and their hi capacity clips are dangerous and weapons of war shouldn't be allowed on the streets."
It usually comes from somebody who lives a sheltered life, in gated communities with armed guards protecting them. They feel that since their lives are trouble free and they never needed a gun to protect themselves, we shouldn't either. They inflate the "gun violence" number by including suicides, use emotion instead of logic (My town has elections coming up for the school board and town council. The dems slogan is "Vote with a heart"), and ignore the fact that firearms have saved many law abiding citizens form trouble. They say we don't need "hi capacity mags", but again this comes with stupidity. A shootout is usually a high stress situation, and it ain't like most people are gonna be John Wick and score one shot one kill on their targets. The same people who hate the cops want law abiders disarmed.
Article of reporter who is "scared" of the AR15 and claims it gave him temporary PTSD after firing it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2673201


Those big scary AR15's, where 110 lb women easily handle them.
Article about a guy responding to the prior article.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/6769/w...hase-stephens#
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
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The agency I work for is going to 9mm within the next 2 years! Considering most of my firearms are 9mm, I'll be loving all the free ammo. They just had us fill out a long questionnaire about things we look for in our firearms like size, finger grooves, capacity, etc.
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
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At least you’re u have a good attitude about it. Ballgame at 7 tomorrow night, gonna be a loooong day.
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Originally Posted By beerdrnkr⏩
The agency I work for is going to 9mm within the next 2 years! Considering most of my firearms are 9mm, I'll be loving all the free ammo. They just had us fill out a long questionnaire about things we look for in our firearms like size, finger grooves, capacity, etc.
Do you get a lot of ammo for training? I was under the impression that most departments only supply like 100rds per month for budgetary reasons.
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
Do you get a lot of ammo for training? I was under the impression that most departments only supply like 100rds per month for budgetary reasons.
It depends on what the budget looks like. When I first got in we used to get .223 (50rds) and .40 cal ammo (150rds). Now it's usually 150rds of .40 every 3 months. Over the last year though, they started also giving us 25rds of shotgun shells with it. Too bad I don't own a shotgun.

Typically at the start of the fiscal year we get a lot of ammo and towards the end it starts to dwindle down a bit. They should have 3 years worth of stockpile 9mm ammo once we get new duty weapons. Interested to see who they go with, it's a huge contract!
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Originally Posted By beerdrnkr⏩
It depends on what the budget looks like. When I first got in we used to get .223 (50rds) and .40 cal ammo (150rds). Now it's usually 150rds of .40 every 3 months. Over the last year though, they started also giving us 25rds of shotgun shells with it.Too bad I don't own a shotgun.

Typically at the start of the fiscal year we get a lot of ammo and towards the end it starts to dwindle down a bit. They should have 3 years worth of stockpile 9mm ammo once we get new duty weapons. Interested to see who they go with, it's a huge contract!
Go get yourself an 870 and start mall ninja'ing that thing to death

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[QUOTE=CWeber21 post_id=1524009991]Shoutout to relintless for negging me because I posted my customized glocks that don't have gaudy gear logos plastered on them like a billboard.

Haha lol

But since I'm a superior human being heres some gun porn, without gears.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/7ZAiCYK.jpg[/]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/1M13BA6.jpg[/]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/ZaFNctr.jpg[/]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/beNnmnY.jpg[/]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/IGX8g7i.jpg[/][/QUOTE]Lmao at you being mad I negged you. I negged you because you’re a *******, not because of your ****gy Glock. Too bad I’m on spread so I can’t do it again.
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
Seriously, what do you guys say to people who say gun control works, look at Australia ever since they got rid of guns they haven’t had any shootings/mass shootings?
But they have had shootings.

How many defensive gun uses have they had? Don't completely ignore one side of the scale.

It's a bit easier to keep guns out of an island than out of a nation that already has a few hundred million of them with a long unsecured border with Mexico.

We have a Right to keep and bear arms here, argue against it all you want, say that "shall not be infringed" means "reasonable bans are okay" all you want, there's no way you can argue that it allows, effectively, a complete ban on guns, and good luck getting a new Amendment passed.

What cities does Australia have with demographics and general violence and drugs and gang problems like many of our crime ridden cities?

How do you explain the United State's violent crime and murder rate being at literally like a 50 year low despite a constant increase in the number of privately owned guns, a huge increase in carry permits, increase in shall issue carry, and a huge increase in Constitutional carry?
Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
If you're arguing with someone that is only concerned with gun specific violence and not violence in general, it's a waste of time, IME.
That ^

Not to mention the whole Rights and Liberties aspect of it. Even if you stick solely to crime (which is not the intent or purpose of the Second Amendment), only brainwashed idiots or people intentionally pushing an agenda talk in terms of "gun violence" and ignore actual violent crime or murder rates.
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Originally Posted By beerdrnkr⏩
It depends on what the budget looks like. When I first got in we used to get .223 (50rds) and .40 cal ammo (150rds). Now it's usually 150rds of .40 every 3 months. Over the last year though, they started also giving us 25rds of shotgun shells with it. Too bad I don't own a shotgun.

Typically at the start of the fiscal year we get a lot of ammo and towards the end it starts to dwindle down a bit. They should have 3 years worth of stockpile 9mm ammo once we get new duty weapons. Interested to see who they go with, it's a huge contract!
So you basically get nothing, that sucks. Do you know what 9mm's they are considering yet?
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[QUOTE=CWeber21 post_id=1524009991]Shoutout to relintless for negging me because I posted my customized glocks that don't have gaudy gear logos plastered on them like a billboard.

Haha lol

But since I'm a superior human being heres some gun porn, without gears.

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[img]https://i.imgur.com/1M13BA6.jpg[img]

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[img]https://i.imgur.com/IGX8g7i.jpg[img][/QUOTE]At least you've gotten better at hiding the fishing line.
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
Serious post:

IL bros

HB4117 the trigger modification bill that vaguely made any trigger modifications a felony did not pass today.

48 yea, 54 nay votes

Too close for comfort, we'll have to keep up the witness slips, calls, emails, and letters for other potential bills.
Way too close, but a W is a W. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so keep bugging the IL gov and MAYBE they will start working for everyone in their state (district).
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Hey . . . any glasses wearers have recommendations for shooting glasses that fit over regular glasses? I've been wearing my glasses more lately just for comfort. Usually wear contacts and always wear those to the range. But if I do want to wear my glasses to the range, I would probably want something more impact resistant over them.
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
Go get yourself an 870 and start mall ninja'ing that thing to death

Yeah, I'll try to get one this next year but I promised my wife no more guns for atleast 4 months
Originally Posted By ctprelude⏩
So you basically get nothing, that sucks. Do you know what 9mm's they are considering yet?
Yeah it's not much. If we go practice on the weekends they range guys usually hook us up with some more too but I don't always have that time, especially now that footballs on.

I have no idea what they're considering yet. I'm assuming they're pretty open to almost anything at this moment. I believe they're aiming for 2019-2020. In the questionnaire they also ask if we're interested in choosing our own.
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
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Hey . . . any glasses wearers have recommendations for shooting glasses that fit over regular glasses? I've been wearing my glasses more lately just for comfort. Usually wear contacts and always wear those to the range. But if I do want to wear my glasses to the range, I would probably want something more impact resistant over them.
I don't wear glasses but do occupational safety for a living. Over the glasses safety glasses generally suck. They tend to make you're corrective lenses fog up, distort vision and are typically not very comfortable to wear. Would be better off to get a pair of prescription safety glasses with removable side shields IMO. They make them that look decent now when the side shields are removed.
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