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post 1546352871 03-13-2018, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
What the actual fcuk... identity politics gone insane.

Are you allowed to do a movie with 90% black women?
This is the weird thing. So a movie with 100% woman with mixed races is fine? But a 75% male cast with mixed races is wrong?
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed
Eh, I'm Asian. And let me tell you this won't change a thing for us.

Theyll just hire fat Asian feminists and beta Asian manlets like ken jeong to represent us.

Hollywood is doing this **** to strike their own ego they don't actually give a **** about other races
And Asians get discriminated against in U.S. college admissions due to affirmative action.
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Would inclusion rider apply to black panther?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Would inclusion rider apply to black panther?
How dare you even suggest that, racist pig
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If they want true equality, make the races of the cast and staff the same as percentage as the census.

76% White
13% Black
6% Asian
2% Native

Hispanic shouldn't even be a thing as you can be 100% white and be Hispanic, or you could be 100% black and be Hispanic, you can even be 100% Asian and be Hispanic.
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So is it equivalent to the demographic % breakdowns or is it a 1:1 ratio?
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Can't say I give a **** when it's Hollywood. People complain about merit but there's **** loads of decent/good/great actors that never get shine because of politics and whatnot. The talent pool is huge so if they want to make it more diverse, then whatever.
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Ben Affleck has proven himself to be one of the dumbest kunt actors on multiple occasions now. Just lol at his emotional outburst at Sam Harris, and now this.
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Originally Posted By JesseV87
Can't say I give a **** when it's Hollywood. People complain about merit but there's **** loads of decent/good/great actors that never get shine because of politics and whatnot. The talent pool is huge so if they want to make it more diverse, then whatever.
You wonโ€™t give a fcuk until it has a direct negative impact on you and your life, if it hasnโ€™t already.

โ€œHey Jesse, we decided not to give you the job even though youโ€™re slightly better than the other candidate - sheโ€™s a black female and helps meet our diversity quota. Better luck next time *******โ€
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Originally Posted By scooterbrah
just another way to discriminate against heterosexual white males
How exactly do you discriminate against a majority?
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Originally Posted By KRANE
How exactly do you discriminate against a majority?
Donโ€™t be fcukin stupid.
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Damon has always been a DNC shill. Affleck is just trying to make face with his masters because of his past sexual exploitations. Whatever, maybe some undiscovered talent will rise from it.
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Like any affirmative action policy, it harms more than it hurts. Better to be at western Michigan getting a 3.8 than at Harvard getting a 2.8
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brb building movie plot around diverse cast, ask questions later.
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Dumbest thing I've ever read, but it's Hollywood so I'm not surprised nor do I really care. Those idiots can do what they want I guess, only gonna shoot themselves in the feet.
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This is stupid on many levels. What are they going to do when they have to cast a movie that takes place in Medieval Europe?
Originally Posted By KingKringe
didn't matt damon speak out against PC? strong hypocrisy
And he got a chit ton of backlash from it. This is a PR move to make up for it.
Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Ben Affleck has proven himself to be one of the dumbest kunt actors on multiple occasions now. Just lol at his emotional outburst at Sam Harris, and now this.
I remember that. That was painful to watch.
Originally Posted By Luc1fer
You wonโ€™t give a fcuk until it has a direct negative impact on you and your life, if it hasnโ€™t already.

โ€œHey Jesse, we decided not to give you the job even though youโ€™re slightly better than the other candidate - sheโ€™s a black female and helps meet our diversity quota. Better luck next time *******โ€
To be fair, he's right in that in Hollywood or in movies in general, it's never been about who's more qualified for the job. Obviously, that doesn't make this right, but there's no real change here in that regard. Hell, just look at that one movie about the Great Wall of China that Matt fukin Damon starred in, which is obviously ridiculous in itself because how many white people were in China at the time? Of course, you can make the argument that it was the Chinese themselves who were "discriminating" against themselves, but this is also a case of white people discriminating against other whites as well.

The real problem is that it can negatively impact how believable the film is, such as in the example I gave above. It's like how every film now needs a token black, Asian, or gay guy even when they don't really fit into the movies (and tokenism itself is pretty condescending).
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Originally Posted By KRANE
How exactly do you discriminate against a majority?
.... Being in the majority has nothing to do with discrimination. You can't be serious right?
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Donโ€™t be fcukin stupid.
I was being polite. The "stupid" was the implication in the first place. You might want to think before you post or ask for help next time.
Originally Posted By Mizzoutiger26
.... Being in the majority has nothing to do with discrimination. You can't be serious right?
Same question, HOW?
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Originally Posted By KRANE
Same question, HOW?
Islam and Christianity are the two biggest religions in the world, and yet you'd try and tell me you've never seen discrimination occur because someone is Muslim or Christian? Look up the dictionary definition of discrimination and then explain to me how it has anything at all to do with being in the majority or the minority.
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Lets be realistic, if they didnt it would be hollywood suicide. The days of the strong male control in Hollywood is over.
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Originally Posted By peterplsss
Just looked it up. Basically it's a stipulation Actors or Actresses can put into their contracts saying the cast must include necessary distribution of all genders and races (basically affirmative action for Hollywood now), for them to do the movie. So basically if you want to have the Matt Damon in your movie now, you must affirmative action the rest of your cast instead of choosing the actors you actually wanted for each roll or else Matt Damon won't do your movie.

I can bet you almost every movie from this year forward will have only women and minorities portrayed in all positions of power and badass action star positions.
don't be stupid. Matt Damon is the ONE hollywood actor who spoke out about equality going overboard. this is only a move to get more publicity.


it's easy to overcome the rider. you CANNOT specify that the co-star is black or gay or whatever. you can only include the overall cast percentage. you think the producer isn't smart enough to put in all the blacks, latinos, gays and lesbians or whatever percentage as EXTRAS in the background?!?!?!!??

don't be so daft.
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Originally Posted By KRANE
How exactly do you discriminate against a majority?
Are you serious? You simply discriminate. Are you implying there are no minorities in positions of power over others in the US? Do you live under a rock?

There are many minorities in positions of power and influence over others in this country. So for example, if you take an African American business manager, and he intentionally doesn't hire X candidate for the job because his skin is white, how is that not discrimination? He negatively impacted that persons life due to the color of his skin. It can go in all directions.


I'll wait for your reply..
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Originally Posted By Hadtodoit
Are you serious? You simply discriminate. Are you implying there are no minorities in positions of power over others in the US? Do you live under a rock?

There are many minorities in positions of power and influence over others in this country. So for example, if you take an African American business manager, and he intentionally doesn't hire X candidate for the job because his skin is white, how is that not discrimination? He negatively impacted that persons life due to the color of his skin. It can go in all directions.


I'll wait for your reply..
Thanks for typing that, couldnโ€™t bring myself to do it.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Thanks for typing that, couldnโ€™t bring myself to do it.
Yeah, to be honest it was a mistake. You simply don't reply to idiots like that, "people from a distance can't tell who's who" and debating him validates his ridiculous logic but... couldn't help myself. It's unfortunate because KRANE is a long time poster here.
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Whatever, once the quitter stops playing Batman, Iโ€™m done with any films he is in anyway.

This isnโ€™t me against any minority, women or whatever.

You cast and hire on talent and what is needed for the role. Period.
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I'm getting one of those bullchit DNA tests in the mail. If I get even 1% African or Chinese or Spanish whatever, I'm changing my ethnic origin on any form or application I ever fill out. I'm a minority son, and you can't tell me differently. I'm cashing in.
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Originally Posted By KRANE
How exactly do you discriminate against a majority?
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Originally Posted By peterplsss
Just looked it up. Basically it's a stipulation Actors or Actresses can put into their contracts saying the cast must include necessary distribution of all genders and races (basically affirmative action for Hollywood now), for them to do the movie. So basically if you want to have the Matt Damon in your movie now, you must affirmative action the rest of your cast instead of choosing the actors you actually wanted for each roll or else Matt Damon won't do your movie.

I can bet you almost every movie from this year forward will have only women and minorities portrayed in all positions of power and badass action star positions.
Well said
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