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post 1546668971 03-17-2018, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By mikeoc322
Lot of false corollaries itt. College =/= knowledge.
I generally agree. BUT when you're in an environment of people that circle-jerk those who are capable of higher levels of intellect you take advantage of the situation. I'm surprised this isn't common sense.
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post 1546670421 03-17-2018, 09:46 AM
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I actually wouldn't mind doing that if I didn't have to work for a living.
post 1546671641 03-17-2018, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By JungleJenetics
I generally agree. BUT when you're in an environment of people that circle-jerk those who are capable of higher levels of intellect you take advantage of the situation. I'm surprised this isn't common sense.
Confused. What are you trying to say? Can you state it better? Be specific.
post 1546673821 03-17-2018, 10:47 AM
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Professional students. Some people are really good in school. They flourish in structured environments where they are told what to do and when/how to do it, then they are rewarded for doing what they are told. Their degree gives them a status and bragging rights. No surprise they are often socialists and even communists. No surprise they fall on their face when they enter the real world where they have to do it on their own and all their degree did was set great expectations for them that they can't fulfill.

What's worse is they often use student loans to take care of other expenses besides tuition so they don't have to work and can "focus on their studies". I can kind of understand that if you are in med school or something strenuous like that but not for your liberal arts degree. To me, it's on the level of title pawing your car type financial mistake. Then, they get out in the real world and can't make a very good paycheck and their student loans takes a huge chunk out of what little they make.

You could almost feel sorry for them because often they made decisions because they were told by people they looked up to that this was the thing to do (when in reality those people were padding their pockets) and they were too young to know what they were getting into. Almost. Almost because so many of them will snub you and have an entitled mentality that they deserve some kind of red carpet. For instance a lot of them are Bernie supporters who want the government (aka taxpayers) to pay off their massive loans and even fund their "education". We all know how that works when "the rich" pay.

Don't get me wrong, an education is very valuable. I think the standard of getting out of HS and then just going to school for a long period before entering the workforce is outdated.
post 1546674751 03-17-2018, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Highwind7
a lot of people that I know who stay in college to get one degree after another are mostly doing it cuz they want to work at the college or work abroad but want more on their resume so as to have a better chance to get hired at a high-paying job, instead of working their way through promotions for years.

funny thing is, I know a person who never spent a single day in the workforce, stayed in college for 15 years, got 4 degrees in 4 different fields in music and she isn't getting hired for the jobs she wants cuz she needs experience, and she doesn't want to work at lower paying jobs she's overqualified for cuz "I have 4 degrees, I should have a better standard". but since mommy and daddy are paying for everything and she can leech off of them for a while, she's got no real complaints.
The reality is that she's right, she should be able to get better jobs, but she's going to have to drop the entitlement mentality. She's been studying the map but nobody has ever given her any directions. What she needs to do is get an entry level job with a big company in an area which has a lot of opportunity for advancement, go in and prove she's qualified to do more, start aggressively taking on responsibilities that she wasn't even hired for and it might take a few months or even a year but eventually she will be reconized, or at least be able to use her experience to get another better job. One thing a school mentality does is teaches you to do what you are told and wait until someone of authority puts you in the next position. That doesn't translate in the real world.
post 1546684861 03-17-2018, 01:32 PM
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I do not believe in the continuation of society as a god given constant. That is, I am preparing for that which takes out a chunk of civilization, and if I survive I want the knowledge and skills necessary to rebuild.

It means I will want knowledge of 'degree':
1. electrical engineering
2. mechanical engineering
3. chemistry
4. biology / bioengineering / medicine
5. computer science / software engineering


And practical application in:
1. mechanics, vehicle maintenance
2. internal combustion engine theory and tuning
3. vehicular electronics/wiring experience for the last 10-20 years (mostly work on 2002~ era vehicle atm)
4. computer repair and software design, component infrastructure

Just think mad maxx, high power armored vehicles of all manner engineered for survival with excellent economy and reliability, with a base of operations consisting of self-made electronic algorithms necessary using custom digital processing recipe to acquire data, process, and return an output command suitable for sustaining life (when I am not home, for example).

Actually being interested and learning all this takes time even for somebody with nothing but time. I've acquired the majority of related biological sciences, chemistry, math, master of science in bioengineering, knowledge of inner workings of an animal/plant body, survival and potential of cellular life, bacteriology/virology, cancer and immunology, electric cell physiology and biochemistry, as chemistry and biology are closely integrated, and the field of bioengineering and medicine leads into the mechanics of the human body (for producing new tissues such as bone or lung replacement) which requires the maths of mechanical engineering (mechanics of materials) so now I pursue the PhD in mechanical engineering. All the while on the side I build a budget toy car after car, replicating and reinforcing wrenching skills then selling for profits. I recently put an escalade engine into a little nissan for example, and added a turbo to make it into a little 3000lb hot-rod. This just a hobby until....

kinda not serious but at the same time. We live in an age when anything is possible.
post 1546685061 03-17-2018, 01:35 PM
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Where do they even get the money though?

I want to stay and do my Masters degree, but I don't have the money to continue education. I have to start working.
post 1546685641 03-17-2018, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Sanguivorant
Where do they even get the money though?

I want to stay and do my Masters degree, but I don't have the money to continue education. I have to start working.
To do masters I worked as a TA teaching assistant 20hours/week. Mine was in biology, but I also did a TAship in the electrical engineering college once. It gives a tuition waver AND you get paid a salary which more than compensates for both the time and remaining balance. Each 'college' has it's own TA positions you can apply for.
post 1546711671 03-17-2018, 08:20 PM
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Some people can't figure out what they want to do. For instance, someone might be 3 years into an arts degree and decide it's unemployable and want to get a stem degree. It wouldn't make sense to throw away all the time they did doing the arts degree so they finish it and then pursue the science degree.

If you are like 3/4 way through a degree, you might as well finish it rather than switch and have wasted credits.

In some cases it can be beneficial to have both an arts/science background. Not that it will earn more money but the knowledge you have might be useful.
post 1546711911 03-17-2018, 08:25 PM
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I have a real job and I audit liberal arts undergraduate classes regularly.

BRB no homework, free reading, young sloots, no exams
BRB call out lib cuck professor, they can't say anything because im colored

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