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post 1551245141 05-10-2018, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
Lmao this is pure bs and cope, did you count every calorie you ate? You telling me the laws of thermodynamics don't apply to you? And lol at 350 doing 20 pull ups, show me a video
No, I did not count "every calorie I ate". I counted every carb I ate, which was under 20 grams per day. I never said thermodynamics don't apply. The problem with hypothyroidism is you don't burn calories worth a ****, combined with a host of side effects similar to diabetes (like feeling sick, weak, cold/sweaty/exhausted when you don't eat roughly every 2 hours).

Again, as I stated to the previous person, brb travelling back in time to produce a video just for you.
Originally Posted By ffguitarist14⏩
In for vid.

350x20? I'm sure you could get 5 at 400. Even if you only get 3 or 4 full range pullups that'd be one hell of a lift and would put at least some sort of authenticity to the claim. It'd be great to see man, I'm sure you can deliver...
If we were 2 years in the past, yes I'd happily deliver a video for you. Or I could train 3-4 days a week on upper body for the next year and then make one. I'd still be a fat fukc, I'd just be a strong fat fukc.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
No, I did not count "every calorie I ate". I counted every carb I ate, which was under 20 grams per day. I never said thermodynamics don't apply. The problem with hypothyroidism is you don't burn calories worth a ****, combined with a host of side effects similar to diabetes (like feeling sick, weak, cold/sweaty/exhausted when you don't eat roughly every 2 hours).

Again, as I stated to the previous person, brb travelling back in time to produce a video just for you.



If we were 2 years in the past, yes I'd happily deliver a video for you. Or I could train 3-4 days a week on upper body for the next year and then make one. I'd still be a fat fukc, I'd just be a strong fat fukc.
Oh well luckily you don't need to travel back in time though

like you said...
Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm ~400lbs right now (I don't have an exact number because I don't have access to a scale that goes that high) and even without exercising for probably a year I can still do a couple pullups right now.
So please, just do a couple. You said it, now prove it. Shouldn't be a problem for ya right?
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Originally Posted By ffguitarist14⏩
So please, just do a couple. You said it, now prove it. Shouldn't be a problem for ya right?
I'm at work for another hour and 15 minutes. If I can find something suitable around here to do pullups on I will see what I can do.
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post 1551246601 05-10-2018, 02:57 PM
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I literally tell my clients. It took years for you to put on that weight and it will take years to get it off. Go ahead and try some 90 day bull**** fad diet and when you gain all your weight back, don't tell me that I didn't tell you so.

I prep them for the inevitable week when they don't lose anything and then have to give the whole recomposition talk. Putting on muscle. etc.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm at work for another hour and 15 minutes. If I can find something suitable around here to do pullups on I will see what I can do.
My greens are eagerly awaiting. Peppering myself to be very impressed.
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Originally Posted By ffguitarist14⏩
My greens are eagerly awaiting. Peppering myself to be very impressed.
I'll be shocked if I can do more than 1-2, but I don't see that it should be too much of a problem to do that. I can't prove my weight though, but it should be pretty clear I'm a fat fukc.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
No, I did not count "every calorie I ate". I counted every carb I ate, which was under 20 grams per day. I never said thermodynamics don't apply. The problem with hypothyroidism is you don't burn calories worth a ****, combined with a host of side effects similar to diabetes (like feeling sick, weak, cold/sweaty/exhausted when you don't eat roughly every 2 hours).
If you got hypothyroidism, go to a doc to get your hormones fixed.
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
If you got hypothyroidism, go to a doc to get your hormones fixed.
Tried that multiple times. They gave me medication back in 2004 when I was first diagnosed, which worked well (I lost ~45lbs in 3 months without doing anything differently). Then I went back (while still on the meds) and they claimed I was now "borderline", so they wouldn't give me another prescription. Of course my levels were borderline while on meds... Anyway, I've had the same problem each time I've gone back to try to get a new prescription since then (~15 times) so I gave up and tried a few over the counter options. Nothing's worked with any long term efficacy unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Tried that multiple times. They gave me medication back in 2004 when I was first diagnosed, which worked well (I lost ~45lbs in 3 months without doing anything differently). Then I went back (while still on the meds) and they claimed I was now "borderline", so they wouldn't give me another prescription. Of course my levels were borderline while on meds... Anyway, I've had the same problem each time I've gone back to try to get a new prescription since then (~15 times) so I gave up and tried a few over the counter options. Nothing's worked with any long term efficacy unfortunately.
Bull****. If your weight came back and the old medication worked, they'd put you on the med again and would never take you off of it because you were "borderline". Any competent doctor would not do that. Go see a new doctor if you aren't lying because the other doctors are potatoes
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Tried that multiple times. They gave me medication back in 2004 when I was first diagnosed, which worked well (I lost ~45lbs in 3 months without doing anything differently). Then I went back (while still on the meds) and they claimed I was now "borderline", so they wouldn't give me another prescription. Of course my levels were borderline while on meds... Anyway, I've had the same problem each time I've gone back to try to get a new prescription since then (~15 times) so I gave up and tried a few over the counter options. Nothing's worked with any long term efficacy unfortunately.
What does a days worth of meals look like for you (+ any drinks you might have)
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Originally Posted By sean67⏩
Was listening to Joe Rogan's podcast where he is speaking to a longevity doctor, and he basically explained that on average people who are morbidly obese don't eat tremendously more than the average joe, but obviously a 500 pound man is eat tons more. Furthermore, their body is just doing everything wrong in a metabolic sense. The body has not learned how to properly use and burn energy, instead creates fat deposits. Plus, these people make bad lifestyle choices which trains the metabolic system to work in an inefficient way.
Nah, they're still eating chit and living a sedentary life. On those TLC shows, everytime the hosts rummage through their cupboards and fridges all they find are frozen and boxed preserved foods sugary drinks and pastries and even when they eat healthy they smother everything in butter (steamed veggies) or ranch dressing (salads)
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Big difference between that level of obesity in pic and just being fat and lazy. These people have a legit disorder/traumatized as kids where food is used as their way to cope. Feel sorry for them. Sure they potentially have the power to diet down and change, but its at a level of difficulty 90% of you will never understand. Including me.
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Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
What does a days worth of meals look like for you (+ any drinks you might have)
Like crap. I'm not trying to lose weight right now (since it doesn't work) so I'm eating whatever I want. I have no idea how many calories I'm eating and I don't care. No point in tracking something that doesn't matter.
Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Bull****. If your weight came back and the old medication worked, they'd put you on the med again and would never take you off of it because you were "borderline". Any competent doctor would not do that. Go see a new doctor if you aren't lying because the other doctors are potatoes
Really getting tired of you *******s accusing me of lying. I've talked to other people with the same disorder and have heard similar stories, that their doctors wouldn't give them their prescription after the 1st go around because they claimed they were now only "borderline". The most recent time I had it tested was around 2 years ago and I got the same run around. I lived in another state and went to totally different doctors previously, and they all give me the same line of BS.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Like crap. I'm not trying to lose weight right now (since it doesn't work) so I'm eating whatever I want. I have no idea how many calories I'm eating and I don't care. No point in tracking something that doesn't matter.


If you've lost weight on medication without changing much surely if you counted and are less + medication you will lose weight right? Can't grow bigger of air
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Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
If you've lost weight on medication without changing much surely if you counted and are less + medication you will lose weight right? Can't grow bigger of air
That was in 2004, as I stated, and while on prescription medication which I can no longer get doctors to prescribe.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Like crap. I'm not trying to lose weight right now (since it doesn't work) so I'm eating whatever I want. I have no idea how many calories I'm eating and I don't care. No point in tracking something that doesn't matter.



Really getting tired of you *******s accusing me of lying. I've talked to other people with the same disorder and have heard similar stories, that their doctors wouldn't give them their prescription after the 1st go around because they claimed they were now only "borderline". The most recent time I had it tested was around 2 years ago and I got the same run around. I lived in another state and went to totally different doctors previously, and they all give me the same line of BS.
You know... I've been reading the misc for some time while not having an account. I see a lot of really dumb and stupid people posting things that make me cringe hard but you good sir are something else. The level of stupidity required to actually believe you CAN'T lose weight because of some self-cemented ideas you believe in is baffling. I suffered from hyphothyroidism since I was 10. Took medication a while and then stopped and got fat in high school. But then I actually did something that might sound weird to you.... I started counting calories, exercising and trying my best to lose weight. And guess what, I lost weight. I didn't even go to any doctors since I've stopped taking the medication and I still managed to lose the weight. But my methord might be too hard for your tiny little pea brain since you don't have any actual dedication and you seem like one of the most pathetic people I will ever hear about. First and last post on the MISC just for you buddy, you're that special.
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I took pills for hypothyroidism growing up, by my late teens I had stopped taking them.
Over the next decade I ballooned up to 290lbs. Tried losing weight multiple times and would bounce up and down. Weight always seemed to come back faster than it dropped off.
I took the 'it's my thyroid' route and got tested.
Normal levels.
fuk.
This was a harder pill to swallow.
Thanks to this website and MyFitnesspal I fixed my diet. REALLY fixed it, not 'ate pretty good'. Tracked everything going in and I dropped down into the 230s in a year and a half, so 2016ish. Since then I've crept back to 265ish for a couple reasons. I seemeed to palteau around 234 and it was getting really hard to lose weight again. I had also picked up BJJ as a hobby and wasn't concentrating on weight loss anymore.
Starting round 2 of weight loss.
Already sub 250 and my cardio is monumentally better (BJJ 3-4x a week) than it was on the 290-230 trip. Goal is to crush it into the 210s/200s.

I absolutely do not buy 'unable to lose weight' its just hard, sometimes REALLY hard.
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Originally Posted By BeDisturbed⏩
You know... I've been reading the misc for some time while not having an account. I see a lot of really dumb and stupid people posting things that make me cringe hard but you good sir are something else. The level of stupidity required to actually believe you CAN'T lose weight because of some self-cemented ideas you believe in is baffling. I suffered from hyphothyroidism since I was 10. Took medication a while and then stopped and got fat in high school. But then I actually did something that might sound weird to you.... I started counting calories, exercising and trying my best to lose weight. And guess what, I lost weight. I didn't even go to any doctors since I've stopped taking the medication and I still managed to lose the weight. But my methord might be too hard for your tiny little pea brain since you don't have any actual dedication and you seem like one of the most pathetic people I will ever hear about. First and last post on the MISC just for you buddy, you're that special.
I've done literally everything you've done and it doesn't work. So.. you're either lying, or had a different experience. Good for you? And goodbye I guess?
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Food is one of the best pleasures on this planet. Some people just like it too much. People cope with food because of stress, boredom etc. Some are addicted. Some don't give a chit if they are fat.

Mind is blown that everyone doesn't strive to be below 15% bf. It's one of the best feelings ever and can be obtained by most in a few months. Having any kind of gut sucks and makes you feel like chit.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Food is one of the best pleasures on this planet. Some people just like it too much. People cope with food because of stress, boredom etc. Some are addicted. Some don't give a chit if they are fat.

Mind is blown that everyone doesn't strive to be below 15% bf. It's one of the best feelings ever and can be obtained by most in a few months. Having any kind of gut sucks and makes you feel like chit.
It's one of those things you don't realize until it's too late. It's hard as fuk to get that low once obesity is obtained. Imma get there, but at this rate I'll be pushing 40s when I do.
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin⏩
I'm pretty sure that the waterbed looking man that is in the OP won't fit in that casket.

In fact, he probably won't fit in a cremation chamber either.

I wonder what they do with extremely obese people when they die obese (like that Mexican dude that recently died who they did a documentary on)...
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Heart attacks and strokes brought on by, say, smoking are semi-silent killers those are easier to ignore because all the damage that is being done to them cannot be seen until they keel over from a heart attack.

With obesity, you can see that progress growing to a stationary lifestyle every step of the way like I mention in post #36.
Smoking isn't a silent killer lol...look up COPD. Your lung function and general sense of well being deteriorate. The carcinogens and nicotine itself (increase BP, potentiates atherosclerosis) potentiate damage to multiple organs particular the G.I. tract and pancreas. It also causes peripheral vascular disease in higher incidence followed by strokes than M.I.s. Because smoking's pathologies are vascular oriented, hypertension ensues which is actually the #1 silent killer. A long term chronic smoker knows he has damaged his body and likely has gone through a slew of doctors visits for copd, PVD, DVTs, incontinence, G.I. issues, eso****eal varices, etc etc etc before they drop dead of an M.I. or stroke. Years of vascular pathology leads to premature atrophy of brain tissue, leading to poor memory etc.

Hypertension is the actual silent killer. Someone who is perfectly healthy but otherwise hypertensive may live an absolutely normal life and then drop dead because of vascular disease.

People who smoke tend to lead otherwise unhealthy lifestyles, very rarely do you see someone who just smokes packs a day who is otherwise completely healthy.
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It’s easy to do without will power I found myself getting pretty far after my last injury took a year off especially maintaining my same very high cal diet with the inactivity and ballooned up
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Other than a serious health condition that contributes to THAT level of obesity (no such condition exists) - nobody should be 400 + lbs. Unless they're 7 feet tall.

I'm appalled at how many excuses are being thrown around ITT. Ie: depression etc. Good God...

InstantLoser - okay, be very honest with your diet. Log all your food and drinks for the next week and post ITT. Let's pinpoint where the issue is.
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Habits and/or mentality.

Growing addiction to food, absolutely love food, then they realize they're getting fat but then the thought of having to work it off and do all that complicating calorie **** makes them not give a fok.

It slowly adds up over time and creeps up on them and the denial begins to kick in. Hopelessness takes over and they're pretty much obese
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Originally Posted By SkinnyBeast24⏩
I literally tell my clients. It took years for you to put on that weight and it will take years to get it off. Go ahead and try some 90 day bull**** fad diet and when you gain all your weight back, don't tell me that I didn't tell you so.

I prep them for the inevitable week when they don't lose anything and then have to give the whole recomposition talk. Putting on muscle. etc.
That's what people don't get about obesity. It's a result of what they have become, not something that happened overnight that can be fixed equally fast. It takes will and commitment to change but it's a "I'm having kids so I have to do everything different" sort of change, not a "I need to study for this exam" one which is what media and the fitness industry alike sell.
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post 1551250881 05-10-2018, 03:58 PM
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There are legitimate medical conditions like Prader Willis syndrome. It impacts the hypothalamus which causes the individual to never feel full. In addition it slows their metabolism so they only get to eat about a 1/3 of what normal people eat before they start gaining weight. In addition people afflicted by the disease tend to have lower IQs and lack the reasoning and control skills to realize they are getting fat and know what to do to stop it.

I realize its rare but its real. Some of these people that are morbidly obese have PWS and have just never been tested...
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
InstantLoser - okay, be very honest with your diet. Log all your food and drinks for the next week and post ITT. Let's pinpoint where the issue is.
Not to be a dick, but I'm starting to think this forum is populated by illiterate retards. I "LITERALLY" stated that I wasn't currently on any kind of diet, and thus any analysis of my current diet would be pointless. I am not, at present, engaged in an attempt at weight loss. I am eating poorly right now because it doesn't matter what I eat.
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post 1551251011 05-10-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩
There are legitimate medical conditions like Prader Willis syndrome. It impacts the hypothalamus which causes the individual to never feel full. In addition it slows their metabolism so they only get to eat about a 1/3 of what normal people eat....

I realize its rare but its real. Some of these people that are morbidly obese have PWS and have just never been tested...
whatchu talking bout, Willis
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