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post 1557578921 07-30-2018, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
If you disagree with vaccines you’re a stone cold retard.

Going through here and negging any and all anti-vaxxers
Did you even read the links you stupid fuk? No one is disagreeing with vaccines, its if NEWBORNS SHOULD BE GETTING 20+ SHOTS WITHIN A FEW MONTHS.

I'll take your stupid little neg because it honestly shows what a fking idiot you are that you can't even comprehend things might not be as you are told.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
If you disagree with vaccines you’re a stone cold retard.

Going through here and negging any and all anti-vaxxers
Here's some more proof for retards like this little ******* who cant read:
From a science journal:
Aluminum Toxicity in Infants and Children, Committee on Nutrition, American Academy of Pediatrics, Pediatrics Volume 97, Number 3 March, 1996, pp. 413-416.

Points from paper:
Aluminum can cause neurologic harm.
A study from 30 years ago showed that human adults will increase their urine excretion of aluminum when exposed to higher levels (suggesting adults can clear out excess aluminum).
Adults taking aluminum-containing antacids don’t build up high levels in their body.
There have been reports of infants with healthy kidneys showing elevated blood levels of aluminum from taking antacids.
The AAP found that people with kidney disease who build up levels of aluminum greater than 100 micrograms per liter in their bloodstream are at risk of toxicity.
The AAP also states that the toxic threshold may be lower than this.
The paper states that aluminum loading (meaning tissue build up) has been seen even in patients with healthy kidneys who receive IV solutions containing aluminum over extended periods.
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Originally Posted By KMadigan777⏩
Did you even read the links you stupid fuk? No one is disagreeing with vaccines, its if NEWBORNS SHOULD BE GETTING 20+ SHOTS WITHIN A FEW MONTHS.

I'll take your stupid little neg because it honestly shows what a fking idiot you are that you can't even comprehend things might not be as you are told.
You seem mad

You should have vaccinated yourself against these negs
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
You seem mad

You should have vaccinated yourself against these negs
I was a little mad, but now it is obvious you are defeated as you have failed to address me on a single point, so for that reason I am content.
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Money moves this nation. If you think our beloved government cares for our health and well being over making money you are being ignorant. Ask yourself, why doesn't the CDC do a double-blind study on the effects of vaccinations?
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Originally Posted By KMadigan777⏩
Here's some more proof for retards like this little ******* who cant read:
From a science journal:
Aluminum Toxicity in Infants and Children, Committee on Nutrition, American Academy of Pediatrics, Pediatrics Volume 97, Number 3 March, 1996, pp. 413-416.

Points from paper:
Aluminum can cause neurologic harm.
A study from 30 years ago showed that human adults will increase their urine excretion of aluminum when exposed to higher levels (suggesting adults can clear out excess aluminum).
Adults taking aluminum-containing antacids don’t build up high levels in their body.
There have been reports of infants with healthy kidneys showing elevated blood levels of aluminum from taking antacids.
The AAP found that people with kidney disease who build up levels of aluminum greater than 100 micrograms per liter in their bloodstream are at risk of toxicity.
The AAP also states that the toxic threshold may be lower than this.
The paper states that aluminum loading (meaning tissue build up) has been seen even in patients with healthy kidneys who receive IV solutions containing aluminum over extended periods.
just lmao. you have no idea how to analyze papers properly.
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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin⏩
I'm a shill? Lmao, go check my post history then fist yourself.

Ignorance? It's basic science.

All humans have detectable quantities of natural formaldehyde in their circulation. Assuming an average weight of a 2-month-old of 12lbs, the total quantity of formaldehyde found in an infant's circulation would be about 1.1 mg, a value substantially larger than what an infant would get in any vaccine or combination. Many vaccines have 0.005mg of formaldehyde in them...

Heres some actual research for you in case you care

"Following a single intramuscular dose of 200 micrograms of formaldehyde, which is equivalent to the amount of formaldehyde received from DTaP, Hib, IPV, and hepatitis B at a single office visit,formaldehyde was completely removed from the site of injection within 30 minutes. Peak concentrations of formaldehyde in blood were estimated to be less than 1 percent of the level of formaldehyde naturally produced by the body. The authors concluded that formaldehyde in vaccines continues is safe."

Mitkus RJ, Hess MA, Schwartz SL. Pharmacokinetic modeling as an approach to assessing the safety of residual formaldehyde in infant vaccines. Vaccine 2013;31:2738-2743


GTFO of here with your shill talk, ignorance, feigned stupidity...
I notice OP never responded to this post and instead moved on to the next bogeyman... Aluminum.
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Originally Posted By KMadigan777⏩
https://vaccines.procon.org/view.res...D=005206#hep-b

They list ingredient in various vaccines, including aluminum, mercury, and formaldehyde
Originally Posted By KMadigan777⏩
I was a little mad, but now it is obvious you are defeated as you have failed to address me on a single point, so for that reason I am content.
There's not much to debate or respond to. You posted a paper that cites the potential harm from excess aluminum in infants, but does not state whether that amount is recieved from vaccines.

Spoiler alert, it's not. Infants receive more aluminum from their diet than they do from the typical vaccination regimen.


Cited from arguably the most advanced children's hospital in the US, so don't even say it's BS
The aluminum contained in vaccines is similar to that found in a liter (about 1 quart or 32 fluid ounces) of infant formula. While infants receive about 4.4 milligrams* of aluminum in the first six months of life from vaccines, they receive more than that in their diet.
https://www.chop.edu/centers-program...ients/aluminum



Heavy metals are almost exclusively present in vaccines as adjuvants, which are used to decrease the necessary dosage and frequency of administration of a certain vaccine. They undergo extensive clinical trials prior to being approved, and are always in concentrations far below what is considered dangerous to administer to a human, infant or otherwise.
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Originally Posted By bigcat3655⏩
Not to mention that having chicken pox as a kid is the only reason shingles happens as an adult. Vaccinate against chicken pox and you basically vaccinate against shingles too.
I'm absolutely in favor of vaccines, but the chicken pox one is tricky.

If you're somoene who had chicken pox as a kid, you'll be much more likely to get shingles than someone 30 years ago would have. I got it a few years ago.

They say it's because the kids that are vaccinated for it still carry around the virus, and that unactivated virus is enough to trigger the virus in people who've already had it (shingles is essentially dormant chicken pox that lives in your spinal column for the rest of your life).
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Originally Posted By Schons⏩
Money moves this nation. If you think our beloved government cares for our health and well being over making money you are being ignorant. Ask yourself, why doesn't the CDC do a double-blind study on the effects of vaccinations?
A double blind study for something like vaccination efficacy is completely unnecessary, since the efficacy of the vaccine is completely objective (e.g. you either contract the infection, or you don't). With the exception of the flu vaccine, I cannot think of a way that experimenter's bias could possibly change the results of a non-blinded study.

I agree with you there is a ridiculous amount of money involved in vaccination, but it is certainly in part due to the overwhelming evidence that vaccines are safe and effective, meaning they will in all likelihood be used forever.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
I'm absolutely in favor of vaccines, but the chicken pox one is tricky.

If you're somoene who had chicken pox as a kid, you'll be much more likely to get shingles than someone 30 years ago would have. I got it a few years ago.

They say it's because the kids that are vaccinated for it still carry around the virus, and that unactivated virus is enough to trigger the virus in people who've already had it (shingles is essentially dormant chicken pox that lives in your spinal column for the rest of your life).
The chances of you contracting shingles from your chicken pox vaccine is significantly lower than the chances of you contracting chicken pox and then shingles later in life as a result of not being vaccinated.
In fact, children who receive a chickenpox vaccination have a much lower risk of getting shingles later in life than those who are not immunized, said Dr. William Schaffner, doctor of preventative medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee, and a leading infectious disease expert.
https://www.livescience.com/45804-ch...-shingles.html



don't mean to be blowing up the thread here, but had this discussion too many times to not put in my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
The chances of you contracting shingles from your chicken pox vaccine is significantly lower than the chances of you contracting chicken pox and then shingles later in life as a result of not being vaccinated.




https://www.livescience.com/45804-ch...-shingles.html



don't mean to be blowing up the thread here, but had this discussion too many times to not put in my 2 cents.
No, no, sorry, you're missing my point. I'm saying those of us who had chicken pox already are kind of screwed by the chicken pox vaccine. It leads to more prevalence of shingles for people that have already had chicken pox (you see this in the fact that a lot of people are getting shingles now in their 30's and 40's when it used to be only seen in much older people).

It's great that the chicken pox vaccine is basically a two-fer for kids getting it since they get immunity from chicken pox and then aren't at risk of shingles. In the transition though, those of us who already had chicken pox are getting a kick in the dick because the vaccinated kids are still carrying their nasty chicken pox germs and causing shingles outbreaks.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
No, no, sorry, you're missing my point. I'm saying those of us who had chicken pox already are kind of screwed by the chicken pox vaccine. It leads to more prevalence of shingles for people that have already had chicken pox (you see this in the fact that a lot of people are getting shingles now in their 30's and 40's when it used to be only seen in much older people).

It's great that the chicken pox vaccine is basically a two-fer for kids getting it since they get immunity from chicken pox and then aren't at risk of shingles. In the transition though, those of us who already had chicken pox are getting a kick in the dick because the vaccinated kids are still carrying their nasty chicken pox germs and causing shingles outbreaks.
interdasting, I see what you're saying. But is that how shingles works? I thought it was a reactivation of the latent infection you already contracted. I don't think shingles can be contracted, but could be wrong on that.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
interdasting, I see what you're saying. But is that how shingles works? I thought it was a reactivation of the latent infection you already contracted. I don't think shingles can be contracted, but could be wrong on that.
Yeah, there's a lot wrong about Dan's post. Shingles results from a latent infection, and being vaccinated doesn't turn someone into a carrier. If anything, it dramatically reduces the likelihood of transmitting the disease.
Take it easy Christian
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The reason we vaccinate chicken pocks isn't just because we worry about kids being itchy or getting shingles as adults. It's because in infants and immunocompromised people it can cause massive brain infections
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I guess anti-Vaxxers forgot how absolutely vile and disgusting children are. Brb pick up anything and taste it. Brb kissing and hugging all over each other. Brb rolling around in the dirt. Brb sneezing and coughing on each other. If you are anti vaccine home school your little bubble boy, and leave the children of civilized humans alone.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
I guess anti-Vaxxers forgot how absolutely vile and disgusting children are. Brb pick up anything and taste it. Brb kissing and hugging all over each other. Brb rolling around in the dirt. Brb sneezing and coughing on each other. If you are anti vaccine home school your little bubble boy, and leave the children of civilized humans alone.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
If you disagree with vaccines you’re a stone cold retard.

Going through here and negging any and all anti-vaxxers
Agreed. Threads like these shed light on just how bad our public education system is.
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Dont know chit about biology but I always asked myself why like half the kids in Canada/US (anecdotal) I grew up with had allergies (eating or otherwise) but almost NO one in the Middle East (visited family back home a lot when I was young) had any sort of allergies.

Interesting to think it might be related to vaccines
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Originally Posted By Scartown⏩
Dont know chit about biology but I always asked myself why like half the kids in Canada/US (anecdotal) I grew up with had allergies (eating or otherwise) but almost NO one in the Middle East (visited family back home a lot when I was young) had any sort of allergies.

Interesting to think it might be related to vaccines
Yeah, vaccines are literally the only difference between Canada/US and the Middle East. You nailed it, bro.
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if i were to do it, i would space it out so a kid never gets more than one vaccine at a time, but would otherwise adhere to the schedule

there's more evidence that prenatal vitamin supplements cause autism than vaccines ded srs
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to the anti-vaxxers, think about the fact that if vaccines do have such a bad effect, it would be instantly provable in reverse, meaning it should be easy to show a correlation. It would be a much bigger percentage of occurence if jt were true.

there are a lot of creepy stories out there but if they were as much of a threat it would happen significantly more often and consistently.

and the data doesnt support the conspiracy. if it were true it easily would.

it is a creepy topic though. and some parents do report kids have behavioral changes which is not cool.

even if it just changes their moods thats creepy and its not justified by saying id rather not have my kid get malaria (which they wont) but somehow its ok that someones kid was “dulled” emotionally. thats a raw and real thing and there is some grey area there.
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Are there any known side effects from taking vaccinations?
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Originally Posted By AlvinDavenport⏩
Are there any known side effects from taking vaccinations?
Common side effects of any vaccine can include:

injection site reactions (pain, swelling and redness)
mild fever
shivering
fatigue
headache
muscle and joint pain
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccin...-side-effects/

cmon brah, all it takes is a cursory google search
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccin...-side-effects/

cmon brah, all it takes is a cursory google search
I'm just trying to wrap my head around how linking autism to vaccines came about?
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Originally Posted By AlvinDavenport⏩
I'm just trying to wrap my head around how linking autism to vaccines came about?
An MD frauded research and has long since been discredited, but his "contributions" have continued with this autism myth.
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