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Op is correct in his assertion.
Originally Posted By Humungus⏩
I've noticed this irl as well. People who constantly have to announce and broadcast how smart they are, rarely are smart. It's like they were given that label as a kid and that became their master status despite never doing or saying anything to actually validate it.
Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
Bragging about intelligence is for people who haven't achieved anything else worth bragging about. Usually teenagers.
Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Also these.Lol at IQ in general- no one cares about that.
Also so, so many self-proclaimed high IQ miscers in here, but when the simplest problems are posted (we're talking elementary arithmetic, math, or probability problems), these people are nowhere in sight, and the majority of the answers are wrong from the people who do show up. Hmmm......
I can gauge intelligence (however that term is defined) from those types of threads pretty quickly.
Also so, so many self-proclaimed high IQ miscers in here, but when the simplest problems are posted (we're talking elementary arithmetic, math, or probability problems), these people are nowhere in sight, and the majority of the answers are wrong from the people who do show up. Hmmm......
I can gauge intelligence (however that term is defined) from those types of threads pretty quickly.
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If you think that online iq tests mean anything then you're certainly not smart.From the op, it seems to me like op thinks he´s smarter than he really is.
Personally I know my iq is high, and yes sometimes I brag about it, nothing wrong with that. Maybe, I think I am smarter than I really am, but all the iq tests in the world put me well above the average.
Personally I know my iq is high, and yes sometimes I brag about it, nothing wrong with that. Maybe, I think I am smarter than I really am, but all the iq tests in the world put me well above the average.
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What other forum are you going to find leading experts on epidemiology, foreign policy, monetary policy, economic reform, global pandemics, and on and on? And on misc, it's the same guy.
Let that sink in. The world's greatest minds are working at a gym or in a warehouse or some chit, posting on an autistic homosexual bodybuilding forum.
Let that sink in. The world's greatest minds are working at a gym or in a warehouse or some chit, posting on an autistic homosexual bodybuilding forum.
04-09-2020, 01:16 PM
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PostsWhat other forum are you going to find leading experts on epidemiology, foreign policy, monetary policy, economic reform, global pandemics, and on and on? And on misc, it's the same guy.
Let that sink in. The world's greatest minds are working at a gym or in a warehouse or some chit,posting on an autistic homosexual bodybuilding forum.
Let that sink in. The world's greatest minds are working at a gym or in a warehouse or some chit,posting on an autistic homosexual bodybuilding forum.
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Im guessing the average iq on the misc is around the average in the world, which from my point of view is pretty stupid.
I am very close to stop visiting this website, because the average iq here is too low for my taste. I lose braincells reading this chit forum. It attracts people from the same iq range mostly.
I am very close to stop visiting this website, because the average iq here is too low for my taste. I lose braincells reading this chit forum. It attracts people from the same iq range mostly.
04-09-2020, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
A subjective term.So what is intelligence?
If definitions are precise, there is no fuss. No on argues whether 14 is even because the definition is precise: an even number is an integer x such that x=2k, for some integer k. Since 14=2(7), and 7 is an integer, we call 14 even.
But there s no precise analogue for intelligence. If you are askingmyopinion, I would associate the term with the qualities I mentioned above in the last post. So I answered the question, from my perspective. I tend to classify minds like Newton, Gauss, Einstein, etc as very intelligent, but that's just my subjective definition.
Also, reading over the thread you linked above and the reference to me (I must have missed it earlier)....not sure exactly what is meant by a list of mathematical terms to know. I will list some standard sources that are great to start with:
Classic overview books and others:
-A Mathematician's Apology, G.H. Hardy
-Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy, Bertrand Russell
-Pretty much any book on puzzles by Raymond Smullyan, such as "The Lady or the Tiger" or "What is the name of this book?", which provide insights into Godels incompleteness theorems, while being fun puzzle books.
-An imaginary tale, Nahin (I don't usually like lay books on math, but this one is exceptional and thorough in its treatment of i).
Starting texts to actually learn math:
-Calculus early Transcendentals by Stewart.
-A First Course in Abstract Algebra by Fraleigh (probably the single most important book in my math background, it gives you a taste of what the subject is really about)
-Elements of Real Analysis by Gaskill and Narayanaswami.
-Any linear algebra text by Strang
-The History of Mathematics, Burton.
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04-09-2020, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Thank you for the book list, do you agree with the following statements:A subjective term.
If definitions are precise, there is no fuss. No on argues whether 14 is even because the definition is precise: an even number is an integer x such that x=2k, for some integer k. Since 14=2(7), and 7 is an integer, we call 14 even.
There is no precise analogue for intelligence. If you are askingmyopinion, I would associate the term with the qualities I mentioned above in the last post. So I answered the question, from my perspective.
Also, reading over the thread you linked above and the reference to me (I must have missed it earlier)....not sure what exactly what is meant by a list of mathematical terms to know. I will list some standard sources that are great to start with:
Classic overview books and others:
-A Mathematician's Apology, G.H. Hardy
-Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy, Bertrand Russell
-Pretty much any book on puzzles by Raymond Smullyan, such as "The Lady or the Tiger" or "What is the name of this book?", which provide insights into Godels incompleteness theorems, while being fun puzzle books.
-An imaginary tale, Nahin (I don't usually like lay books on math, but this one is exceptional and thorough in its treatment of i).
Starting texts to actually learn math:
-Calculus early Transcendentals by Stewart.
-A First Course in Abstract Algebra by Fraleigh (probably the single most important book in my math background, it gives you a taste of what the subject is really about)
-Elements of Real Analysis by Gaskill and Narayanaswami.
-Any linear algebra text by Strang
-The History of Mathematics, Burton.
If definitions are precise, there is no fuss. No on argues whether 14 is even because the definition is precise: an even number is an integer x such that x=2k, for some integer k. Since 14=2(7), and 7 is an integer, we call 14 even.
There is no precise analogue for intelligence. If you are askingmyopinion, I would associate the term with the qualities I mentioned above in the last post. So I answered the question, from my perspective.
Also, reading over the thread you linked above and the reference to me (I must have missed it earlier)....not sure what exactly what is meant by a list of mathematical terms to know. I will list some standard sources that are great to start with:
Classic overview books and others:
-A Mathematician's Apology, G.H. Hardy
-Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy, Bertrand Russell
-Pretty much any book on puzzles by Raymond Smullyan, such as "The Lady or the Tiger" or "What is the name of this book?", which provide insights into Godels incompleteness theorems, while being fun puzzle books.
-An imaginary tale, Nahin (I don't usually like lay books on math, but this one is exceptional and thorough in its treatment of i).
Starting texts to actually learn math:
-Calculus early Transcendentals by Stewart.
-A First Course in Abstract Algebra by Fraleigh (probably the single most important book in my math background, it gives you a taste of what the subject is really about)
-Elements of Real Analysis by Gaskill and Narayanaswami.
-Any linear algebra text by Strang
-The History of Mathematics, Burton.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
intelligence is subjective. knowledge of applied mathematics is useless to a member of an undiscovered tribe in the amazon, just like knowledge of throwing a spear at a monkey is useless to us.A subjective term.
If definitions are precise, there is no fuss. No on argues whether 14 is even because the definition is precise: an even number is an integer x such that x=2k, for some integer k. Since 14=2(7), and 7 is an integer, we call 14 even.
But there s no precise analogue for intelligence. If you are askingmyopinion, I would associate the term with the qualities I mentioned above in the last post. So I answered the question, from my perspective. I tend to classify minds like Newton, Gauss, Einstein, etc as very intelligent, but that's just my subjective definition.
Also, reading over the thread you linked above and the reference to me (I must have missed it earlier)....not sure exactly what is meant by a list of mathematical terms to know. I will list some standard sources that are great to start with:
Classic overview books and others:
-A Mathematician's Apology, G.H. Hardy
-Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy, Bertrand Russell
-Pretty much any book on puzzles by Raymond Smullyan, such as "The Lady or the Tiger" or "What is the name of this book?", which provide insights into Godels incompleteness theorems, while being fun puzzle books.
-An imaginary tale, Nahin (I don't usually like lay books on math, but this one is exceptional and thorough in its treatment of i).
Starting texts to actually learn math:
-Calculus early Transcendentals by Stewart.
-A First Course in Abstract Algebra by Fraleigh (probably the single most important book in my math background, it gives you a taste of what the subject is really about)
-Elements of Real Analysis by Gaskill and Narayanaswami.
-Any linear algebra text by Strang
-The History of Mathematics, Burton.
If definitions are precise, there is no fuss. No on argues whether 14 is even because the definition is precise: an even number is an integer x such that x=2k, for some integer k. Since 14=2(7), and 7 is an integer, we call 14 even.
But there s no precise analogue for intelligence. If you are askingmyopinion, I would associate the term with the qualities I mentioned above in the last post. So I answered the question, from my perspective. I tend to classify minds like Newton, Gauss, Einstein, etc as very intelligent, but that's just my subjective definition.
Also, reading over the thread you linked above and the reference to me (I must have missed it earlier)....not sure exactly what is meant by a list of mathematical terms to know. I will list some standard sources that are great to start with:
Classic overview books and others:
-A Mathematician's Apology, G.H. Hardy
-Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy, Bertrand Russell
-Pretty much any book on puzzles by Raymond Smullyan, such as "The Lady or the Tiger" or "What is the name of this book?", which provide insights into Godels incompleteness theorems, while being fun puzzle books.
-An imaginary tale, Nahin (I don't usually like lay books on math, but this one is exceptional and thorough in its treatment of i).
Starting texts to actually learn math:
-Calculus early Transcendentals by Stewart.
-A First Course in Abstract Algebra by Fraleigh (probably the single most important book in my math background, it gives you a taste of what the subject is really about)
-Elements of Real Analysis by Gaskill and Narayanaswami.
-Any linear algebra text by Strang
-The History of Mathematics, Burton.
IQ is precisely defined though, and has shown to be an accurate measure of one success in modern society.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
hmm i get what you're saying. but im not sure that's the best point:Math is not synonymous nor the end-all with intelligence by any means.....but there is a reasonit is associated with the term more than, say, skill at baseball.
peep what the avg dude throws. hint: this guy in the video throws like 57 mph
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
The first one especially seems to be a good rule of thumb. Hard to argue it.Thank you for the book list, do you agree with the following statements:
If you can't say it simply, you don't understand it at all
If you can't write it on the back of a business card, it's not worth anything
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication-Leonardo Da Vinci
If you can't say it simply, you don't understand it at all
If you can't write it on the back of a business card, it's not worth anything
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication-Leonardo Da Vinci
The business card one? I dunno. There are definitely things that can't be written down on a business card, such as a complete picture of general relativity or the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem, which is over a hundred pages long, or on all the ins and outs of farming, that I don't think are worthless. I agree simplicity is important and desirable, and in many cases even beautiful.... but not necessarily that thoroughness must be worthless.
Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Tbh I try to separate the term usefulness from what I associate with intelligence.....they are different things. But yeah intelligence is definitely subjective, so I agree on that.intelligence is subjective. knowledge of applied mathematics is useless to a member of an undiscovered tribe in the amazon, just like knowledge of throwing a spear at a monkey is useless to us.
IQ is precisely defined though, and has shown to be an accurate measure of one success in modern society.
IQ is precisely defined though, and has shown to be an accurate measure of one success in modern society.
The question about IQ: even if it is defined precisely, how much does it accurately gauge intelligence, when intelligence itself is subjective. If it did accurately predict earnings, to take an example (don't know or care enough about IQ to look into it), this wouldn't be all that relevant to intelligence, at least from my perspective.
I question how well members of lost tribes would do on an IQ test (probably wouldn't do anything at all seeing they'd have no idea what anything on the test was), but I certainly wouldn't think this puts them at a lesser level of intelligence just because of this. I imagine their capacity in terms of memory, creativity, deduction, etc is good like people from modern society.
Some people have super high opinions of IQ- especially on this board it seems- but I just don't. To each his own.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Ha fair enough. Be honest though, how many times when you saw Derek Jeter or Mike Trout hit a home run, did you immediately think "look how smart he is!" as he rounded the bases.hmm i get what you're saying. but im not sure that's the best point:
peep what the avg dude throws. hint: this guy in the video throws like 57 mph
peep what the avg dude throws. hint: this guy in the video throws like 57 mph
I imagine a lot of it is reaction timing, conditioned response, strength, etc, but this gets back to that question about what intelligence is. There isn't a lot of abstract, higher level thought involved in hitting a 100 mph fastball...heck there wouldn't even be time for this thinking. A dog or a shark can smell better than a human, orders of magnitudes better- their brains are better at doing this and the respective regions in their brains are larger, along with more olfactory receptors....but do we say they are smarter because of this? There are all kinds of animals with amazing reflexes, acquired through evolution and adaptation- faster than a human's reflexes- a cat, or say some insects. But do we say a cat is smarter than a human? I do think a lot of this comes down to what is subjectively meant by intelligence.
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04-09-2020, 03:32 PM
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If you want ultimate simplicity in the intelligence question;
It is simple
It is simplifying
How well can you simplify complex questions?
How well can you tie it to other things? (connections)
How well can you communicate it to different levels? (low, med, high)
How quickly can you state your major premise? If you need more than 5 minutes of speech, you are totally lost. I noticed this speaking w 2 130+ IQ physicist is how scatter brained they were and how ineffective they were at communicating ideas.
You'd never think someone as smart and well read as them would struggle, yet here we were:
Physicist A; takes 10 minutes to say "I don't believe in quantum mechanics"
Physicist B; Takes 20-30 minutes to say "cause and effect, Newton's 3rd law, action reaction"
So yeah, they took in effect 200-500x the time it SHOULD take to state positions, what is our only currency? What is beyond our body and money? What goes on no matter what? What is the most holy? And how do they treat it....says it all
It is simple
It is simplifying
How well can you simplify complex questions?
How well can you tie it to other things? (connections)
How well can you communicate it to different levels? (low, med, high)
How quickly can you state your major premise? If you need more than 5 minutes of speech, you are totally lost. I noticed this speaking w 2 130+ IQ physicist is how scatter brained they were and how ineffective they were at communicating ideas.
You'd never think someone as smart and well read as them would struggle, yet here we were:
Physicist A; takes 10 minutes to say "I don't believe in quantum mechanics"
Physicist B; Takes 20-30 minutes to say "cause and effect, Newton's 3rd law, action reaction"
So yeah, they took in effect 200-500x the time it SHOULD take to state positions, what is our only currency? What is beyond our body and money? What goes on no matter what? What is the most holy? And how do they treat it....says it all
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Kind of like this? lolIf you want ultimate simplicity in the intelligence question;
It is simple
It is simplifying
How well can you simplify complex questions?
How well can you tie it to other things? (connections)
How well can you communicate it to different levels? (low, med, high)
How quickly can you state your major premise? If you need more than 5 minutes of speech, you are totally lost. I noticed this speaking w 2 130+ IQ physicist is how scatter brained they were and how ineffective they were at communicating ideas.
You'd never think someone as smart and well read as them would struggle, yet here we were:
Physicist A; takes 10 minutes to say "I don't believe in quantum mechanics"
Physicist B; Takes 20-30 minutes to say "cause and effect, Newton's 3rd law, action reaction"
So yeah, they took in effect 200-500x the time it SHOULD take to state positions, what is our only currency? What is beyond our body and money? What goes on no matter what? What is the most holy? And how do they treat it....says it all
It is simple
It is simplifying
How well can you simplify complex questions?
How well can you tie it to other things? (connections)
How well can you communicate it to different levels? (low, med, high)
How quickly can you state your major premise? If you need more than 5 minutes of speech, you are totally lost. I noticed this speaking w 2 130+ IQ physicist is how scatter brained they were and how ineffective they were at communicating ideas.
You'd never think someone as smart and well read as them would struggle, yet here we were:
Physicist A; takes 10 minutes to say "I don't believe in quantum mechanics"
Physicist B; Takes 20-30 minutes to say "cause and effect, Newton's 3rd law, action reaction"
So yeah, they took in effect 200-500x the time it SHOULD take to state positions, what is our only currency? What is beyond our body and money? What goes on no matter what? What is the most holy? And how do they treat it....says it all
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Pretty sure Socrates loved having debates, and a large motivating force behind having some of his debates was to win the debate.
And it's not that smart people don't flaunt how they're smart, they just do it in more subtle ways.
Not to be passive aggressive, but just pointing it out since it's relevant to my point - Some people in this thread are even doing that, they're not right out saying "I'm smart, look at me", but they're signalling it in their posts.
The biggest irony of all with the Dunning–Kruger effect, is even when it's stated, a lot of time even the people who would fit into this category won't be thinking "Hey, that could actually be me, maybe I fit into that category as someone who overestimates their intelligence."... rather "Heh, yeah, I know so many people who aren't smart but think they are."
Anyway, it's not that the smartest people you know aren't patting themselves on the back, rather they're just self aware enough to know how bragging like that would be perceived, and don't do it. You'll often see such people use self degrading remarks about themselves, as if to display humility and make people think they have little ego... when in reality it's just a smoke screen to give the intended impression.
And from there there will be a he thinks I think game, with many levels. Basically we just have to admit we have ego's, and perhaps we should just embrace them... rather than continue to play the fake humility game... or we can do that too. You'll rarely see someone present themselves in an entirely honest fashion, the one-up-man ship game will almost always be present. People just want to be liked, perhaps we should see that in people who are displaying their need for recognition, rather than "That stupid son of a bitch, I'll show em". Though playing the game of one-up-man ship is fun too. Even within my post there is one-up-man ship going on... even myself stating that is a form of one-up-man ship, and so on...
And it's not that smart people don't flaunt how they're smart, they just do it in more subtle ways.
Not to be passive aggressive, but just pointing it out since it's relevant to my point - Some people in this thread are even doing that, they're not right out saying "I'm smart, look at me", but they're signalling it in their posts.
The biggest irony of all with the Dunning–Kruger effect, is even when it's stated, a lot of time even the people who would fit into this category won't be thinking "Hey, that could actually be me, maybe I fit into that category as someone who overestimates their intelligence."... rather "Heh, yeah, I know so many people who aren't smart but think they are."
Anyway, it's not that the smartest people you know aren't patting themselves on the back, rather they're just self aware enough to know how bragging like that would be perceived, and don't do it. You'll often see such people use self degrading remarks about themselves, as if to display humility and make people think they have little ego... when in reality it's just a smoke screen to give the intended impression.
And from there there will be a he thinks I think game, with many levels. Basically we just have to admit we have ego's, and perhaps we should just embrace them... rather than continue to play the fake humility game... or we can do that too. You'll rarely see someone present themselves in an entirely honest fashion, the one-up-man ship game will almost always be present. People just want to be liked, perhaps we should see that in people who are displaying their need for recognition, rather than "That stupid son of a bitch, I'll show em". Though playing the game of one-up-man ship is fun too. Even within my post there is one-up-man ship going on... even myself stating that is a form of one-up-man ship, and so on...
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Eh I've done a few iq tests and they all came in around 120 which is pretty average
But in real life I feel like I'm smarter then 97% of people (not being a douche just realistic)
I've always made smart decisions in life, wise investments, smart business choices etc.. Anything that is within my control I've made the most out of.
On the other hand I have freinds who are engineeres, well educated etc.. Who make the dumbest life choices imaginable.
I really don't place much stock in iq tests or any of that garbage. Everyone is intelligent in their own ways.
But in real life I feel like I'm smarter then 97% of people (not being a douche just realistic)
I've always made smart decisions in life, wise investments, smart business choices etc.. Anything that is within my control I've made the most out of.
On the other hand I have freinds who are engineeres, well educated etc.. Who make the dumbest life choices imaginable.
I really don't place much stock in iq tests or any of that garbage. Everyone is intelligent in their own ways.
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential⏩
You may think of it as irony. I actually think of it as the hallmark srs.The biggest irony of all with the Dunning–Kruger effect, is even when it's stated, a lot of time even the people who would fit into this category won't be thinking "Hey, that could actually be me, maybe I fit into that category as someone who overestimates their intelligence."... rather "Heh, yeah, I know so many people who aren't smart but think they are."
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It's called coping.
People convince themselves that their partners and kids are unique and special.
That they're interesting, good looking and are more intelligent than the average person.
If you aren't making 250k plus a year, or are exceptional in your field, don't mention high IQ
, no one cares.
People convince themselves that their partners and kids are unique and special.
That they're interesting, good looking and are more intelligent than the average person.
If you aren't making 250k plus a year, or are exceptional in your field, don't mention high IQ
, no one cares.
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Originally Posted By GiveMeTheD⏩
It's definitely a fair point. At a certain point, a test doesn't matter. Results do. Of course the two are closely correlated.If you aren't making 250k plus a year, or are exceptional in your field, don't mention high IQ
, no one cares.
, no one cares.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
i have a slightly different take on intelligence in that its connected to the usefulness part. imo intelligence is how you apply certain skills, and how useful that application is in yielding real world results. the reason its subjective to me is therefore because the real world results can vary drastically depending on where and when you are lol.Tbh I try to separate the term usefulness from what I associate with intelligence.....they are different things. But yeah intelligence is definitely subjective, so I agree on that.
The question about IQ: even if it is defined precisely, how much does it accurately gauge intelligence, when intelligence itself is subjective. If it did accurately predict earnings, to take an example (don't know or care enough about IQ to look into it), this wouldn't be all that relevant to intelligence, at least from my perspective.
I question how well members of lost tribes would do on an IQ test (probably wouldn't do anything at all seeing they'd have no idea what anything on the test was), but I certainly wouldn't think this puts them at a lesser level of intelligence just because of this. I imagine their capacity in terms of memory, creativity, deduction, etc is good like people from modern society.
Some people have super high opinions of IQ- especially on this board it seems- but I just don't. To each his own.
The question about IQ: even if it is defined precisely, how much does it accurately gauge intelligence, when intelligence itself is subjective. If it did accurately predict earnings, to take an example (don't know or care enough about IQ to look into it), this wouldn't be all that relevant to intelligence, at least from my perspective.
I question how well members of lost tribes would do on an IQ test (probably wouldn't do anything at all seeing they'd have no idea what anything on the test was), but I certainly wouldn't think this puts them at a lesser level of intelligence just because of this. I imagine their capacity in terms of memory, creativity, deduction, etc is good like people from modern society.
Some people have super high opinions of IQ- especially on this board it seems- but I just don't. To each his own.
in modern societies there are certain skills that when applied in a very effective way (intelligence), yield very exceptional results (success). that is what i think IQ tests try to show; how capable is a person of applying the skills that have been shown to yield results, i.e. how successful CAN this person become.
its not perfect but its the best general indicator of intelligence that we have, and has been clinically shown to fairly accurately determine success in most fields.
im not a very smart person. it isnt a stretch at all to suggest that if i had been genetically gifted with genius level reasoning and logic that i would have accomplished a lot more in my field by the age of 27 (all things remaining equal).
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These patronizing liberals who accuse others of the Dunning Kruger effect fail to realize that it's very easy to say they are even more victim to the Dunning Kruger effect. Anyone who regularly uses the term Dunning Kruger is a patronizing and close minded goof who thinks they know more than they do. Ops cool but sharing general thoughts on ppl who always use this term
04-09-2020, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Teaching is all about metaphors-Jonathan AdampantsKind of like this? lol
Or said in another way
It's just about using metaphors that let people understand it
Problem is these metaphors are always imprecise and people feel ashamed for using them (shame from their community because they don't want to deal with the barbs for their """imprecision""")
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Can tell from the way he speaks that he's v intelligent, even without knowing what his background is or what he accomplished in his lifeKind of like this? lol
You can also tell people who are kinda intelligent/have a lot of knowledge, but they just don't have "it"
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The irony here is that OP's post, being so verbose yet saying so little, shows me he's the one trying to flex his IQ. We all know what Dunning-Kruger is, and we all know that plenty of idiots think they're geniuses. At the same time, your other point that "High IQ people are off being successful and useful members of society" just isn't true at all. In aggregate yes higher IQ people are more productive and successful, but there are still many who are underachievers and burnouts. Success is also dictated by conscientiousness, organization, and motivation. Very high IQ is linked to a higher rate of mental illness as well, which is why quite a few geniuses are only semi-employed and spend their time angryposting on the internet.
Oh and the Socrates thing is explained by the nuanced differences between the words "informed" and "intelligent" being lost in translation
Oh and the Socrates thing is explained by the nuanced differences between the words "informed" and "intelligent" being lost in translation
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Sorry bro, I missed this and thank you for askingSide note: How are you NVious? How is your day going?
!My days are always fantastic, except when they're not.
How did your day go yesterday or how is it going today if something has happened xD?
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
So far, perfect. Wife and I woke up and did things I’m too much of a gentleman to mention. Then I made us bacon, egg, and cheese sandwiches. About to watch Ozark S3 E3. Perfect quarantine morning.Sorry bro, I missed this and thank you for asking
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How did your day go yesterday or how is it going today if something has happened xD?
!My days are always fantastic, except when they're not.
How did your day go yesterday or how is it going today if something has happened xD?
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This thread is like
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"The manlet is a savage beast that knows no moral bound. After falling in disgrace to a manmore, a ravaged manlet would not hesitate to come from behind and land a sucker punch/ swing with a rock to the back of a manmore's head. They are ruthless and you need to spend some more time in the gutter to even begin trying to comprehend what goes on in their minds."
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Often is just a sign of immaturity. Although I'm not extremely well read or educated I like to think I'm pretty smart and when I was younger I would be kind of obnoxious about it. Letting people know about my accomplishments and whatnot.
As I got older it got less important to me whether other people think I'm smart or not, if they got to know me well enough they could decide for themselves.
If I was to guess my iq? Somewhere in the top 25% of the population. Definitely not Mensa level.
As I got older it got less important to me whether other people think I'm smart or not, if they got to know me well enough they could decide for themselves.
If I was to guess my iq? Somewhere in the top 25% of the population. Definitely not Mensa level.
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