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01-15-2019, 02:17 PM
#91
Originally Posted By Kirra
It's still faster to say "Kimura" lol.


Never said it wasn't, I was just correcting you when you said kimura was equally descriptive, its not.

You also said the double wrist lock name was problematic because, "you're not really holding their wrist with both your hands". When in fact its not problematic at all because you are grabbing a wrist with both hands.

Just makes me wonder why you would bring up those arguments when its so glaringly obvious that they are false.
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01-15-2019, 05:08 PM
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Karate because tired of getting my azz kicked by my brother. Then tkd. They had an mma(mauy thai and no gi bjj)gym down the street so did them both for 6-7 years. Became a black belt in tkd won a national sparring competition. Did some aikido and wing chun. Some of it is trash and some isn't. I still train at a gym with bags.

Edit: on payment my parents thought it was cool that I did that since its better than what my friends were doing which was drugs and partying at the time so they covered the cost
Your parents are very understanding and supportive. The way I see it, you are their good son and they definitely did the right thing.

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I used to do TKD as a teenager/early 20s. I wanted to do more BJJ but it's ridiculously expensive in NYC and I just stopped training. Every so often, I visit the BJJ sites and I want to enroll just to have fun, have a new hobby, maybe even compete, but then I see the prices here ($225/month+) and I just can't justify that amount for martial arts. More power to the brahs who do it, but on top of my gym membership, eating clean, etc., not much room in the budget for these high level, expensive gyms. I miss the old days where $100/month or $125/month was the norm.
We Japanese are lucky. Average monthly fee here is around $100 (10,000 yen), some even offer family discount. (though big cities like Tokyo, Osaka is different, more expensive…) And there are also special public classes run by civic groups or sometimes municipal government, mostly kids and elders though, with fees around $20-30 (2,200-3,300 yen). They are using public facility/building and getting financial aids from public offices.

The problem is the the cost doesn't always match the quality those classes offer. Though high cost with poor quality is the worst, any cost with poor quality is pointless.

I wonder what's telltale sign of a good dojo and sensei?
What is the most important quality of a gym or a sensei for you?

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01-15-2019, 05:15 PM
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Never said it wasn't, I was just correcting you when you said kimura was equally descriptive, its not.

You also said the double wrist lock name was problematic because, "you're not really holding their wrist with both your hands". When in fact its not problematic at all because you are grabbing a wrist with both hands.

Just makes me wonder why you would bring up those arguments when its so glaringly obvious that they are false.
This is a stupid phucking discussion, but you don't think it's problematic that a move is called "double WRIST LOCK" when you're not really even attacking their wrist? "Two on one shoulder lock" is way more descriptive, cos you are both stating what you are attacking, and the "mechanism" or "mode" of attack.

With that said, I don't really care what people call it as long as I can understand what they mean.
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01-15-2019, 05:20 PM
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01-15-2019, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Kirra
This is a stupid phucking discussion, but you don't think it's problematic that a move is called "double WRIST LOCK" when you're not really even attacking their wrist? "Two on one shoulder lock" is way more descriptive, cos you are both stating what you are attacking, and the "mechanism" or "mode" of attack.

With that said, I don't really care what people call it as long as I can understand what they mean.
Of course, its self explanatory. You "lock" in the hold by securing your opponent's wrist (thats 1) and then your wrist (thats 2).

Besides, you're looking at it as just a submission hold.

The double wrist lock has been long used in wrestling as a means of control, to either take down, sweep, force an opponent onto his back, or as a counter to a take down and to stop someone someone from takimg the back, etc.



Mark Schultz was disqualified for using a double wrist lock and snapping his opponent's elbow:

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But I do agree that I'd hate to derail such a cool thread over simple nomenclature.
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01-15-2019, 08:44 PM
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But I do agree that I'd hate to derail such a cool thread over simple nomenclature.
We don't mind heated discussions, not at all. I love it. Any talk about Martial Arts are welcome and it gives us all a chance either to revise our way of looking at things or to strengthen our conviction we hold.

Also for some including me, it is an opportunity to learn new things. Those things, if no one mentioned it, we may have never known.

I thank you both. *bow*
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01-16-2019, 04:48 AM
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01-16-2019, 05:21 AM
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If only brah. Through fighting, I learn every day that I am pretty normal.

But normal people can do extraordinary things when given the chance! I have learned that, too. I only hope that the things I've learned make me better than I was before.

Maybe I wrote that post a bit dramatically, but through boxing, I overcame some of the mentally toughest parts of my life. So in a way, I guess it is a bit dramatic.

I got into a car accident, and I was laid off of work mid-summer shortly after I started fighting due to corporate downsizing. Lost my car and my job within a month of each other. I had a lot of time, and so I started doing smokers, and training for another fight. I ran EVERYWHERE. My boxing gym was about 10 miles away from home. I'd run there, rest until class, train, then run home and apply for jobs for the rest of the day. I'll admit it took me a little bit of time to be able to do that without having to stop mid run.

Everybody at my gym thought I was crazy.

But really, I had nothing better to do than to look for jobs and train. It takes a real big mental toll on you if you don't have anything you're working toward–having that honestly kept me sane.

Managed to build myself back up, earn my property and casualty certification, get a new car and find a career all because boxing helped me stay sane.
M'friend, I love the story with a flair for the dramatic.

In truth, I am greatly inspired by your story, my hats off to you.

I've just took early retirement the last month after 35 years of working a company. Until I find a new job, I have plenty of time but no peace of mind………..I can't stand staying at home so I jogged more than before and ruck-marched with a heavy back pack, miles and miles. And in the last December alone finished total 356 km (221 mi) including Ruck 182 km (113 mi)! Although I still see no daylight in my finding a new job, doing something even as ridiculous and crazy as mine is better than doing nothing but brooding at home. So I feel you brother!!

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This is also an awesome story, OP!

Sounds like you had a ton of dedication. Honestly, I'm a big fan of the way you carry yourself.

I've always wanted to branch out and learn more about other schools of fighting. One thing I've always liked about the traditional arts is their system. There's a grace to them, and the way things happen. I don't know how to describe it. But it's in the way practitioners bow before entering the mat, or express respect for their art. I can't explain, but it doesn't always happen like that in boxing.

It's also in the way that you carry yourself, Kaz!

Still, there is a mutal comradery that extends beyond the arts, which I love about fighting in general.

I was planning to visit Japan sometime at the end of 2019/beginning of 2020! If I finalize everything I'll totally reach out, Kaz!
I agree with you, there is something by which Martial Arts could bring about a change in our hearts and attitudes in a positive sense.

I think you are too kind and generous, but I'm glad you think so. And thanks for calling me Kaz.

Please, let me know once the exact date will has been set, I'll be your host. Like I said before, drinks are on me in Tokyo.
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01-16-2019, 05:48 AM
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I wonder what's telltale sign of a good dojo and sensei?
What is the most important quality of a gym or a sensei for you?

Any idea, anybody?
For me, it is someone who's love for the art supersedes their desire for financial gain from it . My Sensei is an 8th Dan, and studied under one of the people taught by the founder of the system. Jujitsu is and has been essentially his life. He is really good with kids. It's pretty amazing to see the rapid transformation in some of the kids that obviously have very little structure at home. They start out being obnoxious little brats that can't follow the rules and he simply explains that they are in charge of their training. If they want to follow the rules etc, they can participate and train, if not they can go have a seat off the mat. Always maintains his composure and never gets upset. I'm not sure what his "cut" is for teaching through the park district where we train, but he has a private dojo and a medical therapy practice as well, and it seems to me he just really has a love for the art and would probably do it for free…
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Kickboxing and BJJ a year or so when I was 12. Only got to yellow belt. I quit because I sucked, got my ass kicked all time. I was fat, small, and slow. I just didn't have that killer instinct to go out and hurt people, especially the kickboxing aspect. I also hate getting punched in the nose.

I have been getting the itch to start back up again though. I'm tall, lean, and fast now, but I still do not like getting punched in the face, but I do not feel confident in a physical confrontation.

I would love to start up in a martial art that focuses more on striking and throws rather than ground work like BJJ despite my dislike of getting hit. Any suggestions? TKD seems interesting, but I can barely get my leg above my waist. Boxing also seems interesting.
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01-16-2019, 12:10 PM
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Kickboxing and BJJ a year or so when I was 12. Only got to yellow belt. I quit because I sucked, got my ass kicked all time. I was fat, small, and slow. I just didn't have that killer instinct to go out and hurt people, especially the kickboxing aspect. I also hate getting punched in the nose.

I have been getting the itch to start back up again though. I'm tall, lean, and fast now, but I still do not like getting punched in the face, but I do not feel confident in a physical confrontation.

I would love to start up in a martial art that focuses more on striking and throws rather than ground work like BJJ despite my dislike of getting hit. Any suggestions? TKD seems interesting, but I can barely get my leg above my waist. Boxing also seems interesting.
As a TKD instructor, you don't have to kick high. I'd never kick someone in the face in a real fight. That's asking to get dragged by the foot lol. Can you kick to someone's knee level with strength?? Then you're good
Physical limitations can always be worked around and whatnot, but you should do whatever you feel is right for you. Just didn't want you thinking TKD is only for people who are flexible. I started when I was 12/13, so like 13-14 years ago, and I was not super flexible. I know girls who can kick to 12-o-clock but more often than not, most ppl aren't that flexible. I kick a little over head level and I'm only 5 feet tall lol.
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01-16-2019, 12:48 PM
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As a TKD instructor, you don't have to kick high. I'd never kick someone in the face in a real fight. That's asking to get dragged by the foot lol. Can you kick to someone's knee level with strength?? Then you're good
Physical limitations can always be worked around and whatnot, but you should do whatever you feel is right for you. Just didn't want you thinking TKD is only for people who are flexible. I started when I was 12/13, so like 13-14 years ago, and I was not super flexible. I know girls who can kick to 12-o-clock but more often than not, most ppl aren't that flexible. I kick a little over head level and I'm only 5 feet tall lol.
I definitely can, I think my kick's are strong for someone who is not a martial artist. I'm working on my flexibility so it has gotten better. Is TKD just kicks or is there more to it?
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I definitely can, I think my kick's are strong for someone who is not a martial artist. I'm working on my flexibility so it has gotten better. Is TKD just kicks or is there more to it?
My style isn't like the normal Chang Hon style. It's an Americanized version (which outright isn't bad before you scream McDojo) but it incorporates close to a 50/50 ratio of hand to foot techniques, in my opinion… Again, this is based on what I've seen, not like I'm any sort of authority on TKD just because I'm an instructor lol.
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01-16-2019, 10:33 PM
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Taekwondo instructor/3rd degree here . I also practice BJJ, muay thai, and krav.
Teaching tkd is my full-time job, but i incorporate grappling, BJJ, and the other styles i've listed above into our curriculum. I currently have about 150-160 students. feels good man.
I test for my 4th degree this summer. I've been doing TKD for 13 years, and started because I thought it'd be cool… 13 years later here I am lol. Wish I had a cooler story but that's the truth.

OH, and I love it because it's the first thing that ever made me feel like I belonged, and it gave me the confidence I never knew I could have.
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i'm a 2 stripe bjj purple belt. I've been training BJJ for a little over 8 years now. I wrestled in high school and started jiu jitsu after a friend put me in an arm bar in a friendly grappling match on my living room floor. I competed 6 times at white belt and 4 times at blue. I havent competed at all at purple belt and have been focusing on and enjoying being a kids instructor and passing the art on to the next generation.

BJJ is my stress release and my addiction
I've never reached an level of an instructer though I've been training on and off nearly 46 years. The main reason is I'm not that good at it despite my love of the art. I've been always barely above average among others in the same dojo. I lift weights so strength isn't a problem. When I was young speed and reflexes weren't problems, alas now it is, LOL. I think I don't have aggressiveness needed to compete.

The second reason was I moved a lot in my life. Not always a good dojo was available where I moved, especially of the same ryuha(style/school). So everytime I moved I had to change the style, and except for basics of general Karate techniques had to be re-taught from the start. I felt like I was wasting my money and time. After 35, I mostly trained by myself, definitely longer than I trained in dojo.

The third reason, I tend to be distracted in many things other than lifting weights and Martial Arts. The worst was computer games. The best was rock bands. There were other things like computer programming, studying foreign languages. When I was in such phases, I cannot think about anything else but that single thing. Some of them proved to be great additions to my life. So I have no regret.



No matter what, in the end, I always come back to Martial Arts and weight lifting. It's great to have something to fall back on.

I have to stop my blabbering. The point is………..

I always feel the sense of awe toward ones who reached that level and can teach Martial Arts in front of many deshi. And most of all, I admire both of you, for your confidence and your love of the art. *bow*
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As a TKD instructor, you don't have to kick high. I'd never kick someone in the face in a real fight. That's asking to get dragged by the foot lol. Can you kick to someone's knee level with strength?? Then you're good
Physical limitations can always be worked around and whatnot, but you should do whatever you feel is right for you. Just didn't want you thinking TKD is only for people who are flexible. I started when I was 12/13, so like 13-14 years ago, and I was not super flexible. I know girls who can kick to 12-o-clock but more often than not, most ppl aren't that flexible. I kick a little over head level and I'm only 5 feet tall lol.
I did Taekwondo in Korea, the instructors there force it. He held my hands and kicked my legs out into a split. Held it there for 30 seconds then he would push harder until my legs went into a split. It was pure torture. One of the most painful experiences I've ever gone through in my life but it made me a better person. He'd slap me if I started to complain., "No cry! You man no cry! Everybody do this not just you but everybody!" The girls were super flexible.

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I definitely can, I think my kick's are strong for someone who is not a martial artist. I'm working on my flexibility so it has gotten better. Is TKD just kicks or is there more to it?
To be honest it depends on the school.

ITF is more traditional. The sparring includes punches and kicks but no punches to the head

WTF is the sports version. It's what's used in the Olympics. Mostly kicks. You're taught hand techniques during the forms but once again the sparring rules have you kicking. This is the one with the Kukkiwon headquarters in Seoul where people go to test for black belts.

ATF is McDojo. Don't know much else about it.
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For me, (1)it is someone who's love for the art supersedes their desire for financial gain from it . My Sensei is an 8th Dan, and studied under one of the people taught by the founder of the system. (2) Jujitsu is and has been essentially his life. He is really good with kids. It's pretty amazing to see the rapid transformation in some of the kids that obviously have very little structure at home. They start out being obnoxious little brats that can't follow the rules and he simply explains that they are in charge of their training. If they want to follow the rules etc, they can participate and train, if not they can go have a seat off the mat. (3)Always maintains his composure and never gets upset. I'm not sure what his "cut" is for teaching through the park district where we train, but he has a private dojo and a medical therapy practice as well, and it seems to me (4)he just really has a love for the art and would probably do it for free
Thanks for the insight, those are good points. Wish we had such a sensei for not only ourselves but for our kids as well, the next generation.

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I wonder what's telltale sign of a good dojo and sensei?
What is the most important quality of a gym or a sensei for you?

Any idea, anybody?
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I am sure that there are many members here in BB.com who practice martial arts, one form or another.

What's your story, how/why you started it (especially your choice of martial arts) and you are still doing it.

Why you love it so much?

Humor this old man, ANYTHING!!

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Therapy and self improvement.

Like lifting weights, its a good time to spend with yourself and block out any noise but also clear out any negative thoughts.

It's also a bonus when you're training in the right environment with the right people. You network, develop a social group and a brotherhood.

At the same time the physical benefits that come with it is also a bonus. Learning a new skill, using it as cardio, and getting lean AF.

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I had limited martial arts experience until I joined the Marine Corps, where I took up boxing and Okinawan karate (Goju Ryu). One of the men I trained with lived on Okinawa so there would often be kickboxing, grappling, or "no holds barred" (NHB - what they used to call MMA until the UFC made it officially MMA) events with local schools. Once I got to my next duty station, I continued to train in Goju Ryu with one of my sergeants who was a black belt in the same system, but due to deployments and training it wasn't as often as I would have liked before he left.

I then began training in Japanese jujitsu while trying to do what I could for the Goju Ryu on the side, and soon found Kyokushinkai which reminded me a lot of the ways the Okinawans were training in karate so I hopped right in. The jujitsu place moved far away, so it was just Kyokushin for quite a while between two different instructors in the same organization (had to switch due to my busy work schedule). I ended up at nikyu (brown belt) but fell short of shodan before those training opportunities dried up.

I then caught the Daido Juku Kudo bug and was training in Muay Thai and Judo (with weekly newaza/groundfighting classes) while attending seminars to try to start grabbing rank in Kudo and bring that to the East Coast. I ran a training group for several months that met weekly while still training in Judo until during preparation for a Judo tournament I found out I have some serious shin problems so any kind of impact against them is a "Bad Idea" now. (Fortunately some other, much more talented instructors have brought Kudo to the East Coast now.) Nowadays I just fit in the occasional boxing session as a workout or pay the drop in fee at a boxing gym for a session when I can.

So, probably the same story as a lot of guys - I trained for almost a 15 year period, having to adjust as work and availability allowed, had a lot of fun, met some great people, had some small success, and had to move on due to personal reasons (in my case - wrecked shins). I learned some great lessons from each one though.

Boxing taught me the importance of footwork and staying out of trouble in life - much like how you are far less likely to get hit if you move out of the way, you are far less likely to get into an altercation at a quiet venue than a rowdy drunkfest.

Goju Ryu reminds me to accept challenges gracefully and respond assertively ("block soft, hit hard").

Kyokushinkai taught me to persevere no matter what. Whether it's 30 minutes of continuous sparring against a fresh opponent every two minutes or when life gets tough, you try to never complain and never show suffering but instead keep pushing forward and stay on the attack.

Judo and Jujitsu taught me the importance of learning how to adapt to changing situations and stay flexible in order to overcome them.

Muay Thai taught me to never be caught off guard - always be ready as you never know where trouble might be coming from.

I got a lot out of the martial arts, it greatly improved my life. I have both of my boys involved now - they both take youth MMA classes and often join the youth boxing class right after as well. I have seen significant improvements in them in terms of self-discipline, confidence, and mental toughness.

(Sorry for making this a short novel.)
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Therapy and self improvement.

Like lifting weights, its a good time to spend with yourself and block out any noise but also clear out any negative thoughts.

It's also a bonus when you're training in the right environment with the right people. You network, develop a social group and a brotherhood .

At the same time the physical benefits that come with it is also a bonus. Learning a new skill, using it as cardio, and getting lean AF.

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It couldn't be clearer and conciser to the point, description of reasonable purposes and benefits of Martial Arts.

This reminds me of a few fond memories of training with dojo comrades, a drink after the practice, banters with friendly rivalry, and so on. I missed those moments when I was attending classes instead of training by myself.

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To be honest it depends on the school.

ITF is more traditional. The sparring includes punches and kicks but no punches to the head

WTF is the sports version. It's what's used in the Olympics. Mostly kicks. You're taught hand techniques during the forms but once again the sparring rules have you kicking. This is the one with the Kukkiwon headquarters in Seoul where people go to test for black belts.

ATF is McDojo. Don't know much else about it.
Lots of ATA schools are mcdojos (or I guess McDojahng lol), but not all. I've had excellent instructors who were not just handing out black belts. I definitely don't give black belts out to someone who isn't ready.
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As a TKD instructor, you don't have to kick high. I'd never kick someone in the face in a real fight. That's asking to get dragged by the foot lol. Can you kick to someone's knee level with strength?? Then you're good
My favorite knockdown karate fighter was like that. Hajime Kazumi. You would see him training high kicks but then during an actual tournament virtually all of his kicks are to his opponent's legs, especially being quick to counter high kicks. There are tons of flashy fighters in knockdown fighting so to me he really stood out. Just tough as nails, systematically trashing his opponent, all business, all humble. It was a big influence on my own personal fighting style.
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Kickboxing/BJJ Brah.

I love martial arts because it gives me a sense of perspective on life, keeps me humble and motivates me daily.
Other than fighting prowess, you mean!? That's exactly the same here. Glad to hear that.

What's your story, pray tell us. *bow*

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i have dabbled in many arts my whole life. Joined WTF Tae Kwon Do at a YMCA with my friend when i was probably like 5 or 6 because of power rangers . But i quit that quickly cause my teacher was this intense korean guy that picked on me and called me turtle for being slow. At 12 i wanted to do pro wrestling (lol) my dad was like "naw you don't want that. here is another form of wrestling, and its japanese" so i was enrolled in Judo. that class was filled with power trips who will throw you with no regard for human life, after nearly having my arm broken by a chubby HTC blue belt chick, i was out.

In my adult life (like 20/21). I did Muay Thai on and off for 6 months. on and off because any good muay thai club here in toronto is 170 a month and that was too rich for my blood. Other than that i loved the art and would have continued if it was much cheaper. At 24 i started ITF Tae Kwon Do and loved it right away. I did it for a year but, life got in the way as commuting to college, homework, work, volunteering and commuting to class. There was just no time. So i had to leave.
I feel you, brother. When I was 13, bigger boys treated me just like a toy to tear up or shake and rattle.

And when you are bigger and stronger, the new responsibilities await you. Have to find a way to cope with, because it won't go away until you do something about it.

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Now at 28, done school with an alright job for now, i have the time and money to go back to MA and recently started doing traditional shotokan karate. So far i'm loving it and see myself sticking with it for the long haul. It's hard to rewire my brain to make ti do the karate movements and not the other arts/ So if anyone asks what my style is, I say I am a full Karate-Ka.
And you made it and are still here, doing what you really want to. Wish you good luck!!

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As a 90s kid I got into karate because of the Green Power Ranger who is a legit black belt , Jason David frank. But right now I am a Krav Maga practitioner and I've been doing that for about 5 years
Wow, it seemed "Power Rangers" had a lot of influences on little ones, us, would-be Martial Artists!! Same here in Japan. Young ones including my own childhood, were inspired by watching and pretending TV superheroes long before Bruce Lee,

Well………..in my case, precisely half a century ago.

Please tell us about you and Krav Maga more, would you?
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It couldn't be clearer and conciser to the point, description of reasonable purposes and benefits of Martial Arts.

This reminds me of a few fond memories of training with dojo comrades, a drink after the practice, banters with friendly rivalry, and so on. I missed those moments when I was attending classes instead of training by myself.

Great post!
I forgot to mention martial arts is also the fountain of youth.

You yourself are a prime example of that. At 59, I thought you in your picture are to be in mid 30's
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These stories have all been great! I'll jump in as well with my story - a bit long….

My first exposure to martial arts was when I was a kid and my father had one of those "illegal black boxes" that everyone had back in the 90's. I would flip through the channels and caught a few old UFC events. Seeing smaller guys beating up bigger ones always peaked my interest but I never really wanted to train. A friend wanted to check out a Karate gym (I was maybe 13 at the time) and we went over but the whole thing was strange and I never was into it.

Then the UFC (which I was not a regular viewer of anymore) became mainstream with the ultimate fighter and I got more interested in martial arts. I looked at a BJJ gym while I was in college but couldn't afford the fee (the instructor had just got signed to the UFC at that time IIRC).

Fast forward to 2009, a gym had opened closer to home which I had been interested in but heard the price and said F that. My brother said "well lets try it out and see if we like it, if we do, we can find somewhere else if the pricing is too high". We tried it out and it was awesome and the gym pricing had went way down so we signed up. My intent was to try BJJ and boxing but I got hooked on BJJ. I was 23 at the time and I really wish I had started when I was 18 and in college looking at it.

For the first 6 months, I was awful. Being one of the smallest and least talented in the room, I got smashed every class. I didn't tap a single person for 5 months. I competed after 5 months and also got dusted. But after I competed, the coach and better students took more interest. Through white belt, I got absolutely demolished. I went about 1-10 in competition and after about 1 year and 8 months I got promoted (undeservedly, I thought) to blue belt. My first competition at blue belt I won a few matches and got a bronze medal and surprised myself.

After putting a lot of time and effort in, I actually started doing decent and won the large majority of my matches at blue belt and was one of the better local blue belts at the time (for me this was cool because I was an awful white belt). In late 2012, I entered my first advanced BJJ division (advanced no gi) and surprising to myself, I was able to win. In my bracket I beat a BJJ black belt/professional MMA fighter, and a blue belt who had beat me before and also won no gi pans (at our weight) the year before. I won the majority of matches (lost some that I shouldn't have) at blue, and have been training on and off since 2014. I was promoted to purple in early 2015 but have been on and off.

More recently, I have trained more frequently but mostly no gi and have also picked up a little bit of boxing (still a beginner). My brother (who started BJJ with me, is still a blue belt but has been very on/off and moved around but also had some good competition success) picked up boxing and won his one ammy fight by TKO and trains once in a while so I have picked it up at a basic level and enjoy it (no plans to compete).

Having something where I am motivated to improve at, has been the primary reason that I keep going back. A lot of friends have got into it as well so it is awesome to work with them.

In terms of cool experiences, aside from that competition success that I never expected, training with some people who compete at the highest level/compete in the UFC/competed in the UFC has been awesome. In terms of BJJ, Gui Mendes is probably the best person I've rolled and in terms of best martial artist, I'd say Ryan Hall is the best martial artist (overall) that I've shared the mat with. One of the best instructors I've come across is Jon Thomas - if anyone in the BJJ world has a chance to do his seminar/get a private, I'd highly recommend it (and I generally hate seminars and private lessons as a rule of thumb)!
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These stories have all been great! I'll jump in as well with my story - a bit long….

My first exposure to martial arts was when I was a kid and my father had one of those "illegal black boxes" that everyone had back in the 90's. I would flip through the channels and caught a few old UFC events. Seeing smaller guys beating up bigger ones always peaked my interest but I never really wanted to train. A friend wanted to check out a Karate gym (I was maybe 13 at the time) and we went over but the whole thing was strange and I never was into it.

Then the UFC (which I was not a regular viewer of anymore) became mainstream with the ultimate fighter and I got more interested in martial arts. I looked at a BJJ gym while I was in college but couldn't afford the fee (the instructor had just got signed to the UFC at that time IIRC).

Fast forward to 2009, a gym had opened closer to home which I had been interested in but heard the price and said F that. My brother said "well lets try it out and see if we like it, if we do, we can find somewhere else if the pricing is too high". We tried it out and it was awesome and the gym pricing had went way down so we signed up. My intent was to try BJJ and boxing but I got hooked on BJJ. I was 23 at the time and I really wish I had started when I was 18 and in college looking at it.

For the first 6 months, I was awful. Being one of the smallest and least talented in the room, I got smashed every class. I didn't tap a single person for 5 months. I competed after 5 months and also got dusted. But after I competed, the coach and better students took more interest. Through white belt, I got absolutely demolished. I went about 1-10 in competition and after about 1 year and 8 months I got promoted (undeservedly, I thought) to blue belt. My first competition at blue belt I won a few matches and got a bronze medal and surprised myself.

After putting a lot of time and effort in, I actually started doing decent and won the large majority of my matches at blue belt and was one of the better local blue belts at the time (for me this was cool because I was an awful white belt). In late 2012, I entered my first advanced BJJ division (advanced no gi) and surprising to myself, I was able to win. In my bracket I beat a BJJ black belt/professional MMA fighter, and a blue belt who had beat me before and also won no gi pans (at our weight) the year before. I won the majority of matches (lost some that I shouldn't have) at blue, and have been training on and off since 2014. I was promoted to purple in early 2015 but have been on and off.

More recently, I have trained more frequently but mostly no gi and have also picked up a little bit of boxing (still a beginner). My brother (who started BJJ with me, is still a blue belt but has been very on/off and moved around but also had some good competition success) picked up boxing and won his one ammy fight by TKO and trains once in a while so I have picked it up at a basic level and enjoy it (no plans to compete).

Having something where I am motivated to improve at, has been the primary reason that I keep going back. A lot of friends have got into it as well so it is awesome to work with them.

In terms of cool experiences, aside from that competition success that I never expected, training with some people who compete at the highest level/compete in the UFC/competed in the UFC has been awesome. In terms of BJJ, Gui Mendes is probably the best person I've rolled and in terms of best martial artist, I'd say Ryan Hall is the best martial artist (overall) that I've shared the mat with. One of the best instructors I've come across is Jon Thomas - if anyone in the BJJ world has a chance to do his seminar/get a private, I'd highly recommend it (and I generally hate seminars and private lessons as a rule of thumb)!
Awesome story!
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I forgot to mention martial arts is also the fountain of youth.

You yourself are a prime example of that. At 59, I thought you in your picture are to be in mid 30's
> martial arts is also the fountain of youth.

That's what I am hoping to believe!!

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Lots of ATA schools are mcdojos (or I guess McDojahng lol), but not all. I've had excellent instructors who were not just handing out black belts. I definitely don't give black belts out to someone who isn't ready.
I apologize. I'm ignorant about ATA. I should have just wrote that.
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I had limited martial arts experience until I joined the Marine Corps, where I took up boxing and Okinawan karate (Goju Ryu)……

One of the men I trained with lived on Okinawa so there would often be kickboxing, grappling, or "no holds barred" (NHB - what they used to call MMA until the UFC made it officially MMA) events with local schools. Once I got to my next duty station, I continued to train in Goju Ryu with one of my sergeants who was a black belt in the same system, but due to deployments and training it wasn't as often as I would have liked before he left.

I then began training in Japanese jujitsu while trying to do what I could for the Goju Ryu on the side, and soon found Kyokushinkai which reminded me a lot of the ways the Okinawans were training in karate so I hopped right in. The jujitsu place moved far away, so it was just Kyokushin for quite a while between two different instructors in the same organization (had to switch due to my busy work schedule). I ended up at nikyu (brown belt) but fell short of shodan before those training opportunities dried up.

I then caught the Daido Juku Kudo bug and was training in Muay Thai and Judo (with weekly newaza/groundfighting classes) while attending seminars to try to start grabbing rank in Kudo and bring that to the East Coast. I ran a training group for several months that met weekly while still training in Judo until during preparation for a Judo tournament I found out I have some serious shin problems so any kind of impact against them is a "Bad Idea" now. (Fortunately some other, much more talented instructors have brought Kudo to the East Coast now.) Nowadays I just fit in the occasional boxing session as a workout or pay the drop in fee at a boxing gym for a session when I can.

So, probably the same story as a lot of guys - I trained for almost a 15 year period, having to adjust as work and availability allowed, had a lot of fun, met some great people, had some small success, and had to move on due to personal reasons (in my case - wrecked shins). I learned some great lessons from each one though.

Boxing taught me the importance of footwork and staying out of trouble in life - much like how you are far less likely to get hit if you move out of the way, you are far less likely to get into an altercation at a quiet venue than a rowdy drunkfest.

Goju Ryu reminds me to accept challenges gracefully and respond assertively ("block soft, hit hard").

Kyokushinkai taught me to persevere no matter what. Whether it's 30 minutes of continuous sparring against a fresh opponent every two minutes or when life gets tough, you try to never complain and never show suffering but instead keep pushing forward and stay on the attack.

Judo and Jujitsu taught me the importance of learning how to adapt to changing situations and stay flexible in order to overcome them.

Muay Thai taught me to never be caught off guard - always be ready as you never know where trouble might be coming from.

I got a lot out of the martial arts, it greatly improved my life. I have both of my boys involved now - they both take youth MMA classes and often join the youth boxing class right after as well. I have seen significant improvements in them in terms of self-discipline, confidence, and mental toughness.

(Sorry for making this a short novel.)
Thanks for sharing a great story, m'friend. That was the most beautiful, inspiring and insightful personal history of Martial Arts I've ever heard. *bow*

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> (Sorry for making this a short novel.)

You know what, we both love good stories. The more elaborate the story is, the more immersed I could be in that story.

Thank you Grouchy, you are a fearless Soldier, a great Martial Artist and most of all A Perfect Friend in this imperfect world. *bow* -Kaz
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