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post 1574943131 03-03-2019, 08:25 AM
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My #1 thing would be how much bullchit it really is. The average person is a fat slob... no question there. But your average gym goer that has a descent physique isn't really fit either. It's mostly all aesthetics and nothing all that functional. It becomes really apparent how much of a joke it is when you match it against people that are:

- Fighters
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- Rock climbers/alpine climbers
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post 1574963661 03-03-2019, 02:06 PM
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non-natty lifters give out better advice compared to natty lifters
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post 1574963751 03-03-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
This lol I cut on 1500.
1200 cutter here, haven't cut in years tho, I just stay lean instead.
post 1574963831 03-03-2019, 02:09 PM
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Sugar window is real?

Cardio is optional?

Pointless lifting weights unless you're actually gonna really fukin lift them?

My mantra is Rows make you strong aka There's lats in every lift
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post 1574964031 03-03-2019, 02:14 PM
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Most people who are always accusing people they see online of not being natty are mostly just lazy fukkers who haven't put in solid work training hard and consistently on a good diet and therefore have no idea what their body is capable of (ie. most people calling kinobody not natty in recent thread, his physique is achievable natty considering hard, consistent work and accompanying factors)

Bench press is inferior to weighted dips for majority of people (assuming you're not competing in powerlifting)
Neg female miscers on sight crew (I only like boys)
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Road to 405 squat crew 380/405. Road to 500 DL crew 500/500
post 1574964111 03-03-2019, 02:14 PM
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If you arent vascular in the gym at all times your a cuck.
post 1574964121 03-03-2019, 02:14 PM
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I hate the fitness industry. Nothing says being healthy like using stuff we can't talk about and diuretics to look lean for photoshoots. It also produces instagram and youtube attention whores where women get bolt ons, lose some weight, and act like they're a fitness guru. And then men take a few cycles of creatine and then preach about how their programs are what got them where they're at.

Supplement companies are the epitome of snake oil salesmen. You aren't sponsored unless they're paying you to advertise for them. The supplement company giving you a discount code and then giving you a small commission per sale isn't being sponsored, it's being a salesman.
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post 1574964481 03-03-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By mp83
I hate the fitness industry. Nothing says being healthy like using stuff we can't talk about and diuretics to look lean for photoshoots. It also produces instagram and youtube attention whores where women get bolt ons, lose some weight, and act like they're a fitness guru. And then men take a few cycles of creatine and then preach about how their programs are what got them where they're at.

Supplement companies are the epitome of snake oil salesmen. You aren't sponsored unless they're paying you to advertise for them. The supplement company giving you a discount code and then giving you a small commission per sale isn't being sponsored, it's being a salesman.
Would rep need recharge
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post 1574964691 03-03-2019, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
If you're serious about lifting you'll reach your genetic peak in just 3-4 years (unless you started as a teen of course). After that you may make TINY changes over the course of years but honestly nothing really noticeable.

Cliffs: After a few years of consistent, hard training, the rest of your time will just be maintaining muscle size and maybe losing fat.

Edit: post is for natty brahs under the assumption they're eating the optimal diet for gains.
Agree as long as you get everything right for those 3-4 years, which is very rare. Most people go through periods of making mistakes/spinning their wheels even if they have all the knowledge they need.
Originally Posted By mp83
I hate the fitness industry. Nothing says being healthy like using stuff we can't talk about and diuretics to look lean for photoshoots. It also produces instagram and youtube attention whores where women get bolt ons, lose some weight, and act like they're a fitness guru. And then men take a few cycles of creatine and then preach about how their programs are what got them where they're at.

Supplement companies are the epitome of snake oil salesmen. You aren't sponsored unless they're paying you to advertise for them. The supplement company giving you a discount code and then giving you a small commission per sale isn't being sponsored, it's being a salesman.
Cookie cutter post and not an unpopular opinion, tempted to neg to counteract mel's rep and for not respecting thread title.
Neg female miscers on sight crew (I only like boys)
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post 1574965271 03-03-2019, 02:33 PM
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it’s pretty easy to look like you lift. don’t eat like chit and go to the gym a few times a week. that’s pretty much it lol.
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post 1574965581 03-03-2019, 02:38 PM
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- most people that lift have injured themselves badly and will be in pain for the rest of their lives
- 99.99% of the time it’s because of obviously dangerous exercises (DL, OHP, etc.)
- you really should NOT do these exercises unless you need to for competitions
- due to marriage enabling betas to procreate, the majority of men have chit genetics for lifting. most are wasting their time and just causing permanent injuries to themselves
- the only people that really look good are ones that were already really athletic, yet gyms are filled with twinkie soyboys that never get to high numbers in neither weight lifted nor mass
post 1574967011 03-03-2019, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By tvr123
Most people who are always accusing people they see online of not being natty are mostly just lazy fukkers who haven't put in solid work training hard and consistently on a good diet and therefore have no idea what their body is capable of (ie. most people calling kinobody not natty in recent thread, his physique is achievable natty considering hard, consistent work and accompanying factors)

Bench press is inferior to weighted dips for majority of people (assuming you're not competing in powerlifting)
There’s some truth there but you also have to bear in mind that 99% of people in the fitness industry are boldfaced liars lol. Ditto for Hollywood actors and pretty much anyone else who gets paid to look “jacked”.

I don’t care how good your diet is and how on point your training is... you’re probably not getting to 6’2” 240lbs 8% BF as a natty.

Doesn’t mean you can’t make serious improvements and still look great though.
post 1574967641 03-03-2019, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
If you want a fridge waist.
the fuk does that mean?
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post 1574967761 03-03-2019, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By melDorado
Sugar window is real?

Cardio is optional?

Pointless lifting weights unless you're actually gonna really fukin lift them?

My mantra is Rows make you strong aka There's lats in every lift
sugar window is real.. id disagree pretty much in most circumstances. unless using outside supplements etc
post 1574967821 03-03-2019, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By tvr123
Cookie cutter post and not an unpopular opinion, tempted to neg to counteract mel's rep and for not respecting thread title.
this. these opinions are about as unpopular as "Big Bang Theory sucks!"
post 1574967971 03-03-2019, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
If you want a fridge waist.
Ye leave my power belly out of this sis...
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post 1574969341 03-03-2019, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18
99.9999999463% of the people quarter squating though, are doing it because the weight is too much...
Fixed
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post 1574969901 03-03-2019, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa
- most people that lift have injured themselves badly and will be in pain for the rest of their lives
- 99.99% of the time it’s because of obviously dangerous exercises (DL, OHP, etc.)
- you really should NOT do these exercises unless you need to for competitions
- due to marriage enabling betas to procreate, the majority of men have chit genetics for lifting. most are wasting their time and just causing permanent injuries to themselves
- the only people that really look good are ones that were already really athletic, yet gyms are filled with twinkie soyboys that never get to high numbers in neither weight lifted nor mass
Geez who pissed in your Cheerios Mr Cranky???

lol
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post 1574971351 03-03-2019, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
It’s one of my favorites how mad people get over her stuff. She’s awesome and to watch the rage some boys have is fun.



One person? Lol a guy name Tom Platts might think differently. Dorian also trained 3 days a week of some sh!t...he was a different animal. Which brings the point, do what works for you.
That's not what you said though. You said "you're dead wrong" when someone said squats were unnecessary when a 6x mr olympia succeeded with i believe minimal squatting. There are lots of variations/alternatives like hack squat, leg press, etc. Not impossible to build legs without squatting.

If you do a google search you can find a few pro bodybuilders who don't squat or do minimal squatting. Obviously squatting is a great compound but that doesn't make it necessary
post 1574971421 03-03-2019, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted By getsumbaby
Barbell squats are fun

Coffee is the best preworkout
agreed with both points. never tried a preworkout supp crew.

banana + black coffee is the GOAT preworkout
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post 1574971441 03-03-2019, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed
That's not what you said though. You said "you're dead wrong" when someone said squats were unnecessary when a 6x mr olympia succeeded with i believe minimal squatting. There are lots of variations/alternatives like hack squat, leg press, etc. Not impossible to build legs without squatting.

If you do a google search you can find a few pro bodybuilders who don't squat or do minimal squatting. Obviously squatting is a great compound but that doesn't make it necessary
It’s an opinion thread, bud.

No study or anecdotal evidence is changing most of this for people.
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post 1574973251 03-03-2019, 04:51 PM
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Unless you have a disability 99.99% of men should be able to hit 4/5/6 natty
post 1574973491 03-03-2019, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By sammywatkins
Unless you have a disability 99.99% of men should be able to hit 4/5/6 natty
lol wtf
post 1574973571 03-03-2019, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By sammywatkins
Unless you have a disability 99.99% of men should be able to hit 4/5/6 natty
LOL a 400 squat, 500 bench and 600 dead? That's the order they're listed.

HAHAHAHAHA
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post 1574976741 03-03-2019, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
LOL a 400 squat, 500 bench and 600 dead? That's the order they're listed.

HAHAHAHAHA
You got the point.
post 1574978821 03-03-2019, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted By psai
agreed with both points. never tried a preworkout supp crew.

banana + black coffee is the GOAT preworkout
You shouldn't eat a banana on an empty stomach because the magnesium messes with your heart , I learned this from a nutritionist on Quora.
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze
you don't have to do direct ab training to get abs.
Go on...
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Originally Posted By mkTheGoods
Go on...
don't need ab work. compound lifts are enough.

all you need for traps is deads. for tris, bench and ohp are more than enough. for bis, chinups, never do curls.

for calves, squats and deads will build great calves.

i hate *******s who give advice like this.
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Originally Posted By 3basic5me
don't need ab work. compound lifts are enough.

all you need for traps is deads. for tris, bench and ohp are more than enough. for bis, chinups, never do curls.

for calves, squats and deads will build great calves.

i hate *******s who give advice like this.
Yep. Can't beat isolations, they ensure the perfect stimulus, that's the point of them.
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- Some people with really bad muscle genetics are wasting their time trying. I see some guys that started same time as me or before and they look exactly the same.

- Barbell bench press is a waste of time. DB’s are much better.

- Girls that come to gym caked in makeup, with revealing satire are pretty much holding a sign that reads “I’m a whore that needs attention, please come get it”.
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