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Thread: A good example of what the "natty limit" looks like at low bf%

post 1581119761 05-30-2019, 12:48 PM
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This guy claims natty... aham...
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I'm right at what is supposed to be the end of my cut right now. I'm approaching 10%bf at 172. This is the heaviest I've ever been relative to body fat. To get into the single digits, I know I'd have to cut down to around 160-ish, and I'm not sure I'm prepared to do that. I still fill up a medium shirt, and need a belt now on my size 32 pants. But the curiosity is really driving me.
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post 1581120121 05-30-2019, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
I keep reading/hearing this elsewhere and it's never backed up by anything. Is there actually a source for this or is it just "T booster" companies spamming broscience?
This is a good/valid question. I honestly can't say that I've done real research on this. However, anecdotally, and this isn't a knock on women we can see that men and their roles in society have progressively become closer to women in many ways. It's now reached the point of fruition where men are literally chopping off their schlongs and actually becoming "women". And they're being applauded for it no less.

I did read that smoking causes an elevation in testosterone and that the massive efforts to curb smoking has led to a drop in t-levels compared to the days when smoking was the norm.

We've become so complacent and weak that we (The West) have eschewed the responsibilites of being a parent and stopped reproducing. To me the falling birthrates are directly correlated to men becoming weaker (modern birth control is obviously the biggest factor). Men of the past were not afraid of having kids and the responsibility because they knew they had the nuts to do whatever the fuk they needed to do to provide for them. Unlike the current generation that can't imagine the idea of possibly having to leave their cuck job in an air conditioned office and get their hands dirty if push came to shove and there were mouths to feed.

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post 1581120691 05-30-2019, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
Dead bang on OP.

The fake natty youtube era has seriously warped people's idea of what a natty looks like.

You will drive yourself insane trying to achieve a physique based on fake natty physiques from youtube. It's always about you and how you're not doing good enough, nope not eating good enough nope not lifting intense enough nope you're not doing this nope you're not doing that...

It doesn't matter what you do or how good you do it. The tech is 100% needed to achieve their look. You're nothing more than a credit card number to them.
Brah I’m not gonna name any names but there’s some obvious fake natties on this forum. Sad really. If you’re juicing and don’t wanna say it, just shut the fuk up. No need to go out of your way to claim natty and tell everyone how this one method/program made you blow up
post 1581120861 05-30-2019, 01:05 PM
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Some people don't quite understand there's a huge difference between 15% body fat and going into the single digits.
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post 1581120921 05-30-2019, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Tank BPA and all the soy products?
LMAO @ blaming soy products when its demonstrated that its actually Dairy Products Consumption what lowers T and raises estrogen.


the Soy lowering T its a myth, get over it.
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post 1581123301 05-30-2019, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By umadbroski⏩
LMAO @ blaming soy products when its demonstrated that its actually Dairy Products Consumption what lowers T and raises estrogen.


the Soy lowering T its a myth, get over it.
Calm down, was not 100% srs in my post. Figured the fact that i used BPA and soy would make it obvious.

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post 1581123621 05-30-2019, 01:41 PM
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post 1581124101 05-30-2019, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
Dead bang on OP.

The fake natty youtube era has seriously warped people's idea of what a natty looks like.

You will drive yourself insane trying to achieve a physique based on fake natty physiques from youtube. It's always about you and how you're not doing good enough, nope not eating good enough nope not lifting intense enough nope you're not doing this nope you're not doing that...

It doesn't matter what you do or how good you do it. The tech is 100% needed to achieve their look. You're nothing more than a credit card number to them.
Believe it or not before the internet there was even less information about what a real natty lifter can expect. You had people actually believing the pros got like that from the supps they were shilling. Where do you think the whole Cell-Tech thing came from? At least now people know that IFFB pros are all taking.

But I do agree that it's these Zyzz-level physiques on social media claiming natty that have newbies confused.
post 1581125131 05-30-2019, 02:04 PM
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Looks similar to the Athlean X physique which I'm guessing is natty
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post 1581126141 05-30-2019, 02:23 PM
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lol I look better than him and I barely lift.
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What about Christian Guzman lmao
post 1581126801 05-30-2019, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
I'm right at what is supposed to be the end of my cut right now. I'm approaching 10%bf at 172. This is the heaviest I've ever been relative to body fat. To get into the single digits, I know I'd have to cut down to around 160-ish, and I'm not sure I'm prepared to do that. I still fill up a medium shirt, and need a belt now on my size 32 pants. But the curiosity is really driving me.
How tall are you? I am 6" and you just described my build and sizes.
Originally Posted By Assassin



Looks similar to the Athlean X physique which I'm guessing is natty
That ain't natty, and Athlean X is more aesthetic.
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post 1581128571 05-30-2019, 03:02 PM
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thats some chit genetics if ive ever seen one
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post 1581128881 05-30-2019, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
How tall are you? I am 6" and you just described my build and sizes.





That ain't natty, and Athlean X is more aesthetic.
I'm 5'10, and this dude is a lot more jacked than the guy I posted in the OP.

Speaking of buddy in the OP, what would his body fat be at? Somewhere around 7%?
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post 1581129641 05-30-2019, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
How tall are you? I am 6" and you just described my build and sizes.





That ain't natty, and Athlean X is more aesthetic.
Assuming you're not teching you honestly have a better looking natty physique than the guy posted in the op.

It's true that if you want to get totally shredded as a natty then you're going to have to accept looking small in s t-shirt, but I would hardly describe the guy op posted as the peak of natty aesthetics.
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post 1581131031 05-30-2019, 03:49 PM
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Maybe I'm just more genetically blessed than him. He looks damn good and he may be at his limit but that's definitely not natty limit
post 1581132741 05-30-2019, 04:20 PM
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I agree that at that low BF%, that's as big as a natty can get. Anything bigger and he drank a lot of OJ. I think there may be rare geneic freaks that can, but as a norm, nope.
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post 1581133491 05-30-2019, 04:32 PM
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Naw ...
post 1581133971 05-30-2019, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Idk how he can think that looks good. He would look a million times better at higher bodyfat. I don’t mean chubby but just normal healthy level like maybe 15%.
I agree. I don't like that shredded look. He's obviously worked super hard and he's shredded but I don't think he's all that aesthetic.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Btw I’m interested in pics of natty limit for women. We were having a discussion in another thread on whether natty women can get bulky/big. Posted some CrossFit girls but those are probably not natty.
I'd be interested in seeing some examples of this as well. I think the biggest problem is finding someone you actually know and know is not on anything, cause anyone on the internet could be using and if they're on IG or shilling supps/fitness plans then most likely they are.
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post 1581133981 05-30-2019, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
That's on psmf and no pump. Honestly you can't get big and lean as a natty. A natty has to have a pump to look full too.

This is natty limit for 6'1

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fugg it, ill take the critique. this is one of my better physique shots.
yes, natty. 6ft, low 180s, and roughly 9%bf in this pic. legs are quite chit compared to my upper body tbh. lifting for 14 years.

i don't care to argue about natty-ness. im no youtube wannabe and have no reason to lie.
just hoping to give some realistic expectations if you put in a decade+ of hard work, and have decent genetics, AND know how to work the angles and lighting - big factor lol

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Originally Posted By arkansawboy⏩
fugg it, ill take the critique. this is one of my better physique shots.
yes, natty. 6ft, low 180s, and roughly 9%bf in this pic. legs are quite chit compared to my upper body tbh. lifting for 14 years.

i don't care to argue about natty-ness. im no youtube wannabe and have no reason to lie.
just hoping to give some realistic expectations if you put in a decade+ of hard work, and have decent genetics, AND know how to work the angles and lighting - big factor lol

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probably why most guys look better with dad bods, with low bf% they'll look like twinks
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Assuming you're not teching you honestly have a better looking natty physique than the guy posted in the op.

It's true that if you want to get totally shredded as a natty then you're going to have to accept looking small in s t-shirt, but I would hardly describe the guy op posted as the peak of natty aesthetics.
Thanks, but I'm lifetime all natty and the dude in the OP has a much lower bodyfat than I do. That muscle starts shrinking the closer you get to single digits as a natty.
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Talking about natty limits and no mention of Eugen Sandow?

18 inch arms at 5'9, 30 inch waist and around 185-195 lbs, and visible abs.
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Originally Posted By SkinnyPhatBrah⏩
Talking about natty limits and no mention of Eugen Sandow?

18 inch arms at 5'9, 30 inch waist and around 185-195 lbs, and visible abs.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
That's on psmf and no pump. Honestly you can't get big and lean as a natty. A natty has to have a pump to look full too.

This is natty limit for 6'1

That is the exact same look with a tan. Congrats, you laid in a bed.
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[QUOTE=arkansawboy post_id=1581134121]fugg it, ill take the critique. this is one of my better physique shots.
yes, natty. 6ft, low 180s, and roughly 9%bf in this pic. legs are quite chit compared to my upper body tbh. lifting for 14 years.

i don't care to argue about natty-ness. im no youtube wannabe and have no reason to lie.
just hoping to give some realistic expectations if you put in a decade+ of hard work,[b]and have decent genetics[/b], AND know how to work the angles and lighting - big factor lol

[img]https://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/gallery-photo/21238661/5cb64cd5e1814dd08de290a22c1a1c90-610xh.jpg[img][/QUOTE]That's the biggest problem with the guy in the OP. No chest or arms. Might be at his personal limit, but anyone with better genetics in those areas will make him look tiny.

Also, mirin.
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that guy lacks lats, lat's make the upper body imo
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