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Is it weird for a 23 year old to date a girl who just turned 18?
06-06-2019, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By TiredOfTrying⏩
Have a seatim 29, and guess what.
06-06-2019, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
Stfu. It’s not creepy. If the girl wasn’t into it she could say so. And don’t like the girl is so innocent she’s manipulating the guy and using him for his money too.Would you seriously be trying to have a respectful relationship with that girl though? With a potential future? Seems like that may be tough as she’s not even in college yet and you are nearly 30. But not totally impossible.
In my experience the much older dudes were just hunting for easy sex, a porn fantasy and an ego boost. That’s why many 18/19/20 yo women are told not to mess with older guys. My parents told me the same and I don’t think my father was a jealous old harpy.
Think people would find it a lot less creepy if you were serious about the girl, but even then, an 18 yo is mentally a child so some people will always see it as predatory.
As long as you’re interested in her for her and not simply because she’s 18, that’s a different matter.
I don’t think miscers get this very important distinction in the creepiness factor
In my experience the much older dudes were just hunting for easy sex, a porn fantasy and an ego boost. That’s why many 18/19/20 yo women are told not to mess with older guys. My parents told me the same and I don’t think my father was a jealous old harpy.
Think people would find it a lot less creepy if you were serious about the girl, but even then, an 18 yo is mentally a child so some people will always see it as predatory.
As long as you’re interested in her for her and not simply because she’s 18, that’s a different matter.
I don’t think miscers get this very important distinction in the creepiness factor
06-06-2019, 08:30 AM
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Bruh, I always post this when a thread like this comes up (and it comes up quite often)
I was 27 when I started dating my gf who was 20, only thing weird was she looked younger and couldn't go to places with alcohol lawl.
Now we're 32 and 25, doesn't feel as weird
I was 27 when I started dating my gf who was 20, only thing weird was she looked younger and couldn't go to places with alcohol lawl.
Now we're 32 and 25, doesn't feel as weird
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06-06-2019, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Mike1991⏩
What you just said—mold them into what you want—is potentially a red flag.Nothing to do with that at all. And yeah I think depending on the girl you could have a respectful relationship (obviously not with all of them). I think they are young enough to mold into what you want.
The problem with older women is they have been fuked up emotionally by other guys, dating etc etc..
With an 18 year old you are getting more of a clean slate. Teach them how to have respect for eachother in a relationship, how to diet and stay in shape. Mentor them through school/career. Keep them from making terrible life choices like drugs and partying every night.
You are not getting some emotionally damaged washed up feminist. The years between 18-25 are absolutely essential for developing the personality you will have the rest of your life. Why not try and mold that into something nice for yourself?
The problem with older women is they have been fuked up emotionally by other guys, dating etc etc..
With an 18 year old you are getting more of a clean slate. Teach them how to have respect for eachother in a relationship, how to diet and stay in shape. Mentor them through school/career. Keep them from making terrible life choices like drugs and partying every night.
You are not getting some emotionally damaged washed up feminist. The years between 18-25 are absolutely essential for developing the personality you will have the rest of your life. Why not try and mold that into something nice for yourself?
You’re 28. So you’ve lived and if you’re like most miscers, you’ve partied and been promiscuous and now you want to go find an 18 yo who hasn’t done any of those things. Has it ever occurred to you that you might make her bitter and ruin her once you’re done?
She has the right to develop into an adult without someone molding her. There are far more options than being a drinker or a skank.
If you had an 18 yo little sister and a 30 year old man wanted to mold her would you be fine with it?
And it’s disingenuous to act like there aren’t intelligent, attractive, non skanky women with good morals over the age of 18 who would make excellent wives.
If you can’t find any of them I doubt you’re looking.
I’m not saying it’s always creepy but miscers are pretty much the definition of why people think it’s creepy.
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06-06-2019, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩
I never said there weren’t skanky gold digging 18 year olds.Stfu. It’s not creepy. If the girl wasn’t into it she could say so. And don’t like the girl is so innocent she’s manipulating the guy and using him for his money too.
But your average 18 year old girl is naive and just figuring her life out. It’s totally natural people in her life would be protective and not want her with some old man.
And you’re right, she could say she’s not interested. And she usually won’t be, which is why it’s pretty rare for it to be an issue in the first place.
Creepy old men are complained about by plenty of young women despite misc think that it’s only bitter older women. For the reasons I outlined above, the attention can feel very unsettling.
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06-06-2019, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
All the good ones have been snapped up by 25-30.. 95% of what's left have a laundry list of issues. Who said anything about not letting them have fun?What you just said—mold them into what you want—is potentially a red flag.
You’re 28. So you’ve lived and if you’re like most miscers, you’ve partied and been promiscuous and now you want to go find an 18 yo who hasn’t done any of those things. Has it ever occurred to you that you might make her bitter and ruin her once you’re done?
She has the right to develop into an adult without someone molding her. There are far more options than being a drinker or a skank.
If you had an 18 yo little sister and a 30 year old man wanted to mold her would you be fine with it?
And it’s disingenuous to act like there aren’t intelligent, attractive, non skanky women with good morals over the age of 18 who would make excellent wives.
If you can’t find any of them I doubt you’re looking.
I’m not saying it’s always creepy but miscers are pretty much the definition of why people think it’s creepy.
You’re 28. So you’ve lived and if you’re like most miscers, you’ve partied and been promiscuous and now you want to go find an 18 yo who hasn’t done any of those things. Has it ever occurred to you that you might make her bitter and ruin her once you’re done?
She has the right to develop into an adult without someone molding her. There are far more options than being a drinker or a skank.
If you had an 18 yo little sister and a 30 year old man wanted to mold her would you be fine with it?
And it’s disingenuous to act like there aren’t intelligent, attractive, non skanky women with good morals over the age of 18 who would make excellent wives.
If you can’t find any of them I doubt you’re looking.
I’m not saying it’s always creepy but miscers are pretty much the definition of why people think it’s creepy.
Im all for 100% trust. Not trying to control someone's life completely. Just be a good influence when it matters.
There's lots of people out there looking to be bad influences regardless of age. How is it a red flag that I want to keep them from making retarded mistakes that could seriously affect their future?
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06-06-2019, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
Are you denying the ability of an 18 year old woman to give consent? You know a bit about me and I can assure you that even in elite schools kids start fooling around in their very early teens if not earlier these days. And by 18 plenty of guys and gals want to potentially see something more - especially women for whom sex up to that point has been 3 minutes of a guy barely able to hold back his jizz.I have always had creepy old men hit on me and I can tell you most of them don’t have honorable intentions and are banking on the girl being dumb and emotionally vulnerable
06-06-2019, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
No, I don’t deny her ability to give legal consent but in some cases I would deny her ability to give informed consent, because she is naive. Now some 18 year olds are full blown whores already, or they have daddy issues, which is sad, but ce’st la vie.Are you denying the ability of an 18 year old woman to give consent? You know a bit about me and I can assure you that even in elite schools kids start fooling around in their very early teens if not earlier these days. And by 18 plenty of guys and gals want to potentially see something more - especially women for whom sex up to that point has been 3 minutes of a guy barely able to hold back his jizz.
I’m not saying all older dudes are creeps, but plenty are, and there’s clearly an advantage that comes with life experience than an 18 yo doesn’t have. We don’t let them drink or run for office, and there’s a reason for that. They’re stupid.
The 30 + dudes who specifically target 18 year olds are creeps, period. If you meet a girl and she happens to be younger, that’s a different story.
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06-06-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Mike1991⏩
You’re not her father. That’s what she has parents for, you’re supposed to be her partner.All the good ones have been snapped up by 25-30.. 95% of what's left have a laundry list of issues. Who said anything about not letting them have fun?
Im all for 100% trust. Not trying to control someone's life completely. Just be a good influence when it matters.
There's lots of people out there looking to be bad influences regardless of age. How is it a red flag that I want to keep them from making retarded mistakes that could seriously affect their future?
Im all for 100% trust. Not trying to control someone's life completely. Just be a good influence when it matters.
There's lots of people out there looking to be bad influences regardless of age. How is it a red flag that I want to keep them from making retarded mistakes that could seriously affect their future?
Re not wanting an old woman—ok, but you’re 28, you could date 21-30. A woman who can legally drink, has a job, has developed mentally, has some idea of what she wants in life.
Seems like a 25 year old just out of grad school would work very well for you if you’re really looking for a wife. She’d be in a position to take that on.
If you want a high schooler over that there is likely another reason at play here.
Generally speaking an 18 year old will not be in a position to have an adult relationship.
But if you are honest with her, not manipulative, and she is 100% clear on the terms (whether it’s sex or dating) ultimately it is her choice.
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06-06-2019, 09:20 AM
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didnt read the thread but:
its not weird at all.
We are attracted to fertil women, and women are the most fertile from 16-24 years old
sadly 16 are illegal so you got to take 18.
its not weird at all.
We are attracted to fertil women, and women are the most fertile from 16-24 years old
sadly 16 are illegal so you got to take 18.
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06-06-2019, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
whos naive? are you talking about someone in particular that you know? or are you insinuating every 18 year old woman is naive and cant make informed decisions. if thats the case we need to push back our already conservative laws on adulthood. maybe 25?No, I don’t deny her ability to give legal consent but in some cases I would deny her ability to give informed consent, because she is naive.
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06-06-2019, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
Heh, and in the EU 16 year olds could participate in the recent MEP elections. So perhaps this is partly cultural, except for say the "predator" type you mention.No, I don’t deny her ability to give legal consent but in some cases I would deny her ability to give informed consent, because she is naive. Now some 18 year olds are full blown whores already, or they have daddy issues, which is sad, but ce’st la vie.
I’m not saying all older dudes are creeps, but plenty are, and there’s clearly an advantage that comes with life experience than an 18 yo doesn’t have. We don’t let them drink or run for office, and there’s a reason for that. They’re stupid.
The 30 + dudes who specifically target 18 year olds are creeps, period. If you meet a girl and she happens to be younger, that’s a different story.
I’m not saying all older dudes are creeps, but plenty are, and there’s clearly an advantage that comes with life experience than an 18 yo doesn’t have. We don’t let them drink or run for office, and there’s a reason for that. They’re stupid.
The 30 + dudes who specifically target 18 year olds are creeps, period. If you meet a girl and she happens to be younger, that’s a different story.
In grad school it was reasonably common for 18-19 year old girls to want to fukk 30 year old grad tutors. The "showing up at your apartment in an overcoat and lingerie" level of common.
06-06-2019, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Yeah that’s on them thenHeh, and in the EU 16 year olds could participate in the recent MEP elections. So perhaps this is partly cultural, except for say the "predator" type you mention.
In grad school it was reasonably common for 18-19 year old girls to want to fukk 30 year old grad tutors. The "showing up at your apartment in an overcoat and lingerie" level of common.
In grad school it was reasonably common for 18-19 year old girls to want to fukk 30 year old grad tutors. The "showing up at your apartment in an overcoat and lingerie" level of common.
I’m more referring to the older guys who are distinctly predatory in their pursuit of very young women
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06-06-2019, 09:32 AM
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i dated a girl that was about to turn 18 when I was 24. The only people that have problems with those relationships are older woman.
Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent.
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06-06-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By RRiddlemethis⏩
yeah, its a cope mechanism from older women.i dated a girl that was about to turn 18 when I was 24. The only people that have problems with those relationships are older woman.
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06-06-2019, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By umadbroski⏩
All of yours posts are legitimately retardedyeah, its a cope mechanism from older women.
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06-06-2019, 12:32 PM
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Thank you all for your answers. I have forwarded them to my friend and he will be meeting up with the girl on monday.
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