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Thread: Suicide rate for young men soaring

post 1582426891 06-20-2019, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩



Dating market getting worse is also a strong contributor to this phenomenon.
Guys like you are a big part of the problem. Do you really think that teaching young men that life is hopeless and female biological sexual selection is completely and invariably stacked against them is going to help with suicide? Does learned helplessness help anyone? Do echo chambers perpetually recycling variants of "it's not fair" make life fair?
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post 1582427071 06-20-2019, 01:14 PM
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Soy levels off the chart itt.


Bunch of cry baby victims yall are.
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post 1582427141 06-20-2019, 01:15 PM
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Jesus Christ.

This is a lot of posts trying to rationalize rotting. Reduce soy intake.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
post 1582427501 06-20-2019, 01:21 PM
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There are now, more than ever, adult men being coddled by their mothers. Parents these days are a joke.

brb spending my saturday doing my child's science fair project
brb getting the 7th grade math teacher fired because she gave my child a B-
brb tommy texted me he forgot his algebra homework, better leave work, stop home, drop it off at the high school
brb cheating the system to get my child into college and taking out a second mortgage to pay for it
brb creating a resume, cover letter, filling the application, and setting up an interview for my 27 year old kid
brb 35 year old son lives in the basement, doesn't pay any contribution to the household, works two, five hour, days a week at a gas station


Literally, so many people do EVERYTHING for their children. Now we have more adults who've had nearly everything handed to them. No sense of tackling challenges, overcoming obstacles, building skills, mastery. It's anecdotal and I know several women that this applies to, but I've found I know more men my age that are just skating by with no direction in life. The lack of accomplishments among this age group is astonishing.

And to compound it, as others have mentioned, 90% of what we see on social media is everyone's successes. The houses bought, engagements, pregnancy announcements, job promotions, etc. Generally we don't see the failure, the break-ups, the layoffs, the DWIs, etc. So now these adults, who mostly haven't done jack-chit in their life, sit around spending their free time looking at all their friends, family, and acquaintances doing amazing things.


And beyond that, women have always been in a station to be taken care of so I think the impacts of living at home and not having accomplished much isn't as detrimental. In addition, women tend to build more emotionally supportive connections with one another. So even when we feel like chit about ourselves, a break-up, being passed over for a promotion, etc. we talk it out amongst our friend groups who offer support, discuss ad nauseam solutions to issues. This is why in part women move on easier after a break up.


It's not that surprising.
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Not all men understand how to man the fuk up and take control of their lives (I.e. all the soyboys itt). Not all people with mental health issues understand they can get help and feel better by working on their issuee, and sadly they either live out their lives miserable or commit suicide. Sad state of affairs mates.
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post 1582427761 06-20-2019, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Flip side is we are basically judged only on our looks.
So what? Don't females nowdays judge guys strictly on looks as well?
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

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post 1582427921 06-20-2019, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By 1hardgainer⏩
So what? Don't females nowdays judge guys strictly on looks as well?
No.
Take it easy Christian
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
It’s a copy pasta by wincel lol.

And yeah don’t forget the periods part. I don’t think you guys fully appreciate that you don’t have to deal with it. Bleeding is no fun.
That wincel is one wise dude...most incel trait unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
It's okay that you find it to be a complex problem. I prefer not overthinking and doing. That's why I told you I wasn't interested in debating this with you, nor did I find any of your ideas worth considering. I get to do that, and I even went so far as to tell you that, because I find it rude when people take the time to reply and then others ignore you. Yet here you are, twice now, craving attention. There is no need to take my lack of engagement with you personally. I disagree with where you're coming from and that's okay.
No problem, it's just hard to ignore you in my thread.
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Lolllll

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post 1582428691 06-20-2019, 01:42 PM
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Bullying needs to make a comeback. I assume everything really did change in 2012 because back then you were allowed to bully fukups without being threatened with prison. You'd think a fuking bodybuilding forum wouldn't breed whining victims but I'm proved wrong again.
post 1582429721 06-20-2019, 02:05 PM
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how many think technology and the internet are to blame? Easier than ever to say fuk going out and isolate yourself from the world.

I doubt this many young men were locked in their rooms all day playing solitaire or listening to music before the 2000's
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post 1582431241 06-20-2019, 02:27 PM
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post 1582431811 06-20-2019, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Peacening⏩
Not all men understand how to man the fuk up and take control of their lives (I.e. all the soyboys itt). Not all people with mental health issues understand they can get help and feel better by working on their issuee, and sadly they either live out their lives miserable or commit suicide. Sad state of affairs mates.
Well they are taking control of their life, they assess their life make the conclusion that the cons of staying alive massively outake the pros and they can't change the outcome and so decide to end it.
post 1582432221 06-20-2019, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
Here's what I can say with absolute certainty and with zero speculation: People's actions and decisions are owned by them and are 100% their own doing. They might have influences, but you are responsible for your life, and I fully believe if people are taught this and learn to accept this, it could help suicide rates. We can place blame all day long as this thread is really hell-bent on doing, but young men kill themselves because young men kill themselves. That's the only truth I think we will agree upon. They might have had a single mother, they might have all sorts of unfortunate influences and circumstances in their life, but as heartless as it sounds, I give exactly zero fuks about people's very sad circumstances.
And you think TheAdlerian is insane?
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post 1582432431 06-20-2019, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted By arkona4trek⏩
Well they are taking control of their life, they assess their life make the conclusion that the cons of staying alive massively outake the pros and they can't change the outcome and so decide to end it.
Check mate
Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
And you think TheAdlerian is insane?
Don't waste your time.
This guy is very one dimensional and childish in his reasoning. I actually envy him. I wish I was that ignorant.
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post 1582433031 06-20-2019, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Well I think it’s depression that causes the hopelessness. Life can always get better. You never know what will happen. Maybe you’ll win the lottery or fall in love or have some other good luck.

Depression is the real issue. I’ve never had suicidal thoughts but I have been very depressed and gone through grief and emotional trauma etc so I do understand that dark feeling of grief and hopelessness like life can never get better. Like in that Rolling Stones song Painted Black.

But that dark cloud is ultimately just an emotion and it can drift away.
If you really take the time to think, you'll figure out that suicide is not actually a bad option. Assuming it gets better is a comforting lie us human have developed to cope. It doesn't usually get better. Sometimes you just get distracted from the lack of meaning and brutality of this life. Little happy moments can distract you , but once they are gone, you begin to see your life as it truly is. A lot of people can't handle it and use drugs or other escape mechanisms to avoid it. Moreover, if you do happen to feel better for a while you eventually go back to your depressed state. It becomes a viscous cycle. It's almost as if you were condemned to live.
People are just distracted by many thing
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post 1582433221 06-20-2019, 02:56 PM
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Because they can't get laid and our life has become pointless. They are also taking away our masculinity so we won't have that in another decade either.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Well I think it’s depression that causes the hopelessness. Life can always get better. You never know what will happen. Maybe you’ll win the lottery or fall in love or have some other good luck.

Depression is the real issue. I’ve never had suicidal thoughts but I have been very depressed and gone through grief and emotional trauma etc so I do understand that dark feeling of grief and hopelessness like life can never get better. Like in that Rolling Stones song Painted Black.

But that dark cloud is ultimately just an emotion and it can drift away.
Well the hopelessness can also cause the depression or at least you can be in depression, the hopelessness kicks in and it reinforce depression.

Also, what are the odds of winning the lottery or falling in love or whatever you deem to drastically improve your life ? Surely not much for people who have not much to begin with.

I respect your point of view though. All I'm saying is that if those guys choose to stay in the game and their life sucks they are called losers and "blame" to have not take control of their life, if they bravely choose to end it (cause it takes courage to commit suicide) they are "blame" to not take control of their life while in truth they actually did imho and did not take an easy way out cause suicide is not that easy : you need to fight the unconscious survival instinct, you fear a bad outcome that can put you in a worst state than you were before, etc.

Not a good place to be in the first place. But if you are in it and you want to still play the game I believe that when Painted Black starts to play, your best bet is to turn to God (Nature or simplicity for those who don't believe in God) and listen Sigur Rós - Straumnes instead. You will still be a loser but a loser at peace or somewhat at peace
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Higher male suicide rate = higher amount of school/church etc shootings

There's a reason 99% of those shooters are young males
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
Maybe he is, I don't know. I think he's definitely off, but you sucking him off for months at a time now is a bit more insane to me. I seem to have really ticked you off by having the audacity to question his advice. Would you like to address the substance of the post I made? I took a peek back to reflect and I'm standing by it.
You don’t think that what you wrote was a touch... reductionist?
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Because they can't get laid and our life has become pointless. They are also taking away our masculinity so we won't have that in another decade either.
How is anyone else taking away your masculinity? You choose whether or not you want to sit around whining like a little bitch or not. Wanna be masculine? No one's stopping you. If you're too fragile to deal with SJWs calling you toxic, then your masculinity was pretty weak to begin with.
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
LOL, I don't even disagree with you. I've only half-jokingly stated that I'm probably retarded. Doesn't really matter though, this one dimensional child seems to be succeeding and having a pretty damn good life, while other knuckleheads continue to whine and write paragraphs about how the world isn't fair. Get out of your heads.
Achieving success does not necessarily mean you know how or why it occurred. It can be pot luck owing to factors that haven’t even entered your consciousness.

It’s a bit like speaking and writing your native language. You may be good at it, but you probably have little to no idea of how the language works nor why you’re especially good at it (beyond the obvious that is, i.e. you’ve been practicing it all your life).

But there’s some Czech kent out there who learnt English as a second language and probably knows how English works far better than you do, but can he speak or write it anywhere close to your level? No, he can’t.
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men today have lack of direction

they are told to go to school to be X from childhood by parents and teachers. a lot end up single well into their 20's and 30's. working some job does absolutely nothing unless you are working that job for a reason, ie family. you need purpose, a drive, a goal, having kids and a wife depending on you gives you that. some guys choose to go the elon musk route but only a percentage make it, aka have kids *******s.
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
No. I stand by the idea that people areresponsible for how they respondto everything that comes into their world. Everyone has horrible and deeply unfair things happen to them, and those things are very sad I'm sure, but you are still responsible for what you do with that. That's about the cliffs of it.

I don't find that to be radical, reductionist, or insane.
Let’s run with that...

Where does a person’s “response” stem from? Why does it differ from person to person? Can a person respond in any number of ways, or can they only respond in ways that they’ve learnt or been taught?
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Glow reaper slays all women, and she is far more cruel than Norwood. She can take a prime sloot and leave her a barren hag, destitute of any redeeming qualities. Females have a chit life in spite of all the perks they get in society. Imagine bleeding every fukking month, and literally being on the clock from puberty to like age 35 to chit out babies before you dry up and become worthless. Not to mention they also tend to just be really fuking dumb, so that doesn't help much. And imagine caking your face with paint everyday because you know you are ugly and disgusting. Just fuking lol. Any woman you ever hear about who is "confident and strong" is literally wearing a mask everyday because she is afraid people will see her ugly face. Let that sink in. 1/4 females is on antidepressants lmao. Those of you who wish you were a born a woman, just fukking lol. Having test is a fuking upgrade. Males are human 2.0. Just fuking better at everything. Imagine needing to ask a guy to help you lift something lol...or needing to feel "safe and protected" just fukking lol. No amount of gender equality and preferential treatment will ever give them the basic strength, freedom, and security we have everyday just for having balls.
Spot on. Yup, unfortunately, males are learning to become females, and suppressing their test. For whatever reason, society is raising future men to be more like women, then we wonder why men are becoming so feminized. Well duh!

I go to the gym, and see boys doing girl exercises. Then they wonder why they look like girls. Worse, they spend more time in front of the mirror than under the bar. I would tell them, want to look like a girl, keep doing girly exercises. Want to look like a man, get under the damn bar and put some serious weight up.

At least we succeed better at suicide. We got that going. Survival of the fittest, and the gene pool is better for it.

We got people programmed to "take a pill" for everything. That there's an easy fix, take a pill! It's a shortcut. No hard work involved. So now we got over-medicated people with no work ethic to actually improve themselves. It takes work, facing your problems, over coming fears, getting outside your comfort zone and "safe-space", getting over your short comings, and actually standing up, bust your ass, and do some hard ass work.

Clinical depression is a thing, but don't go into therapy thinking you'll just take a pill, and everything is magically better. Do the hard work to improve your life or rot.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
LOL yeah dude. There was a girl that showed interested in me in 2018 that I was kind of interested in also but something was...off about her. I went on a date with her and we sort of fizzled but we had mutual acquaintances through jiu jitsu.

Anyway you look at her IG it's riddled with a bunch of selfies and every life event of hers. She lost her grandmother last month and said she was going to get off social media for at least a month.

10 days later she's back to the same behavior. Sort of sad because she is attractive but is probably insecure to some sort of degree. My girl is a bookwork and hardly on social media.
Yeah doesn't surprise me either. Many people seem to try and cover up their sh!t life with sprinkles and snowflakes on social media but have a spine made of glass outside of it. My girl is the same way and I love it. Keeps our relationship grounded and realistic.
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we are too isolatedfrom community andwe are too selfish. fix these two things some how and mental health restabilizes.

When you are meaningfully connected to the people around you and you focus on helping others, the volume on your own suffering paradoxically goes down.

We are in an era of isolation, since itappearsthat we can receive all of our entertainment and survival needs alone. This is unprecedented.

We are in an era of selfishness, since the individual's personal pleasure and hedonism is the highest value.

we are hurting ourselves and those around us by living like this
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