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post 1584064011 07-17-2019, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Nothing edgy about it, that's literally your argument.



You honestly think that's practical advice for people in developing countries?










Do you disagree with regulation regarding employee treatment, child labour laws, building codes, workplace safety?
So tell us, how do you prevent outsourcing then?

And don't worry, soon automation will ensure those kids aren't needed when they're replaced by a machine.
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99.99% of employees are expendable assets they can replace quickly. If there is no financial incentive to care, then the majority of them won't. Profits > Empathy.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Nothing edgy about it, that's literally your argument.



You honestly think that's practical advice for people in developing countries?










Do you disagree with regulation regarding employee treatment, child labour laws, building codes, workplace safety?
I see nothing wrong with this as long as they are getting paid srs. Supply and demand son
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Dunno lol. At my work they fire employees over a single customer complain no matter if just or not.
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400⏩
Dunno lol. At my work they fire employees over a single customer complain no matter if just or not.
Where do you work?
post 1584072271 07-17-2019, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
3rd world sweat shops and business in the western world are not the same at all.
Yes they are. The Industrial Revolution was practically sweatshops. Look at events like the Chicago Triangle Shirtwaist fire
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Originally Posted By AWSbruh⏩
If I run a corporation I wouldn't give a **** about employers to srs. My goal is to make as much money as possible for me and the shareholders, so I would squeeze every little work out of you for as little as possible. Especially if you are easily replaceable srs. Wallmart and Mcdonalds CEO are goals.
Meanwhile Employers like Chick-Fil-a, Costco, Aldi's, etc pay more, treat workers better, and still make a ton of profit.

FYI Sam Walton and his wife are what made Walmart GOAT and treated everyone right, not the dumb ass kids in charge.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Yes they are. The Industrial Revolution was practically sweatshops. Look at events like the Chicago Triangle Shirtwaist fire
Life was better before the industrial revolution?
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Meanwhile Employers like Chick-Fil-a, Costco, Aldi's, etc pay more, treat workers better, and still make a ton of profit.

FYI Sam Walton and his wife are what made Walmart GOAT and treated everyone right, not the dumb ass kids in charge.
Aldi's?
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Meanwhile Employers like Chick-Fil-a, Costco, Aldi's, etc pay more, treat workers better, and still make a ton of profit.

FYI Sam Walton and his wife are what made Walmart GOAT and treated everyone right, not the dumb ass kids in charge.
This

You do this and everyone is happy. Team moral is better. Everything is more efficient.

Instead Wal Mart would rather higher 70% people who don't want to work, not fire the bad workers and treat everyone like chit lol

Could just hire half the amount of people that actually work and pay them a little more and treat them better. This goes for office jobs too. Same chit.

I worked at wal mart for years and they never fired the bad workers. Most of the time they were making double what everyone else was and treated better. A word was never said to them.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Yes they are. The Industrial Revolution was practically sweatshops. Look at events like the Chicago Triangle Shirtwaist fire
that was about 180 years ago.....
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Meanwhile Employers like Chick-Fil-a, Costco, Aldi's, etc pay more, treat workers better, and still make a ton of profit.

FYI Sam Walton and his wife are what made Walmart GOAT and treated everyone right, not the dumb ass kids in charge.
Nah I like the Wallmart and amazon why. Why the hell should I pay more for unskill workers when they're dumb and probably going to screw the company over anyway.
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Originally Posted By AWSbruh⏩
Nah I like the Wallmart and amazon why. Why the hell should I pay more for unskill workers when they're dumb and probably going to screw the company over anyway.
Sam Walton built Walmart on the foundation of treating employees right, along with the customer. Tons of videos on him online.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Meanwhile Employers like Chick-Fil-a, Costco, Aldi's, etc pay more, treat workers better, and still make a ton of profit.

FYI Sam Walton and his wife are what made Walmart GOAT and treated everyone right, not the dumb ass kids in charge.
And you just made the case for the free market. Those places aren't paying them better out of charity. They can only pay them better because that's what the free market dictates for their business model.

Your thinking is in reverse. Do you know how selective Costco and Chick-Fil-A are when they hire employees? They hire the best customer-service employees, which is why they pay them more to keep them.
Your average wal-mart exployees would get fired the next day if they worked at those places. You double your average Wal-Mart employees pay and 95% of them will still be hot trash.
This

You do this and everyone is happy. Team moral is better. Everything is more efficient.

Instead Wal Mart would rather higher 70% people who don't want to work, not fire the bad workers and treat everyone like chit lol

Could just hire half the amount of people that actually work and pay them a little more and treat them better. This goes for office jobs too. Same chit.

I worked at wal mart for years and they never fired the bad workers. Most of the time they were making double what everyone else was and treated better. A word was never said to them.
Yeah, that's why you're posting on the misc and not an executive.
post 1584083551 07-17-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Sam Walton built Walmart on the foundation of treating employees right, along with the customer. Tons of videos on him online.
This isn't the 1950s. That doesn't work anymore. Most successful corporation screw over their employees so their shareholders can profit as much as possible. I have no issues with that
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
This

You do this and everyone is happy. Team moral is better. Everything is more efficient.

Instead Wal Mart would rather higher 70% people who don't want to work, not fire the bad workers and treat everyone like chit lol

Could just hire half the amount of people that actually work and pay them a little more and treat them better. This goes for office jobs too. Same chit.

I worked at wal mart for years and they never fired the bad workers. Most of the time they were making double what everyone else was and treated better. A word was never said to them.
Okay....its ****ing Walmart though. Trashy employees, and trashy customers. Also, Walmart hires greeters for ****s sake. They don't have to, could probably save money getting rid of that position.
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Originally Posted By TurbanMon⏩
And you just made the case for the free market. Those places aren't paying them better out of charity. They can only pay them better because that's what the free market dictates for their business model.

Your thinking is in reverse. Do you know how selective Costco and Chick-Fil-A are when they hire employees? They hire the best customer-service employees, which is why they pay them more to keep them.
Your average wal-mart exployees would get fired the next day if they worked at those places. You double your average Wal-Mart employees pay and 95% of them will still be hot trash.


Yeah, that's why you're posting on the misc and not an executive.
I'm gonna have to disagree with everything you said. Most Walmart employees aren't bad people, except they get treated like chit from upper management so they do the bare minimum. Higher salary = Better employees with better work ethic and better attitudes. People are willing to put in more work for better pay especially if it came to their families. You'd be surprised how above and beyond some people would go if you actually cared and payed better wages.

As far as Free Market, the Industrial Revolution days and Sweatshops overseas proves that theory wrong. Because at the end of the day people will undercut you just to feed their families.

Originally Posted By AWSbruh⏩
This isn't the 1950s. That doesn't work anymore. Most successful corporation screw over their employees so their shareholders can profit as much as possible. I have no issues with that
Sam Walton and his wife is the reason why Walmart is in the spot it is to this day. They're the reason Walmart is so big and successful so I'm not getting what you're saying. What do you mean "That doesn't work anymore."?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So tell us, how do you prevent outsourcing then?
If you answer my questions, I will answer yours.
And don't worry, soonautomationwill ensure those kids aren't needed when they're replaced by a machine.
In a capitalist economy that will probably mean mass unemployment.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
you are not paying attention.

and you're still making the comparison.
The industrial revolution began in the west.

China is the largest 2nd economy in the world.

Corporations aren't restricted to the west.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
I may be wrong, but it seems that way. I understand business is about making profits, but at the expense of treating your employees wrong? EA, Walmart, Apple, Uber, etc. etc.

If it wasn't for government, I feel liked we'd still be working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. The fact that government had to intervene shows you how bad they are. And there shouldn't be a discussion for Universal Basic Income if these employers really cared about people.
Why do you think? The federal min wage is 7.25. Do you really think any company gives a crap about you?
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Rather than a theoretical question, we can actually look at corporate practices past and present.

Sweatshops exists.

Corporations since the beginning of the industrial revolution, have no problem with child labour.. Rather than pay the adults enough to take care of a family, they want to employee children...

https://www.ethicaltrade.org/issues/child-labour

Buildings that collapse - making products for corporations - in developing countries that kill people, because the corporations didn't care about regularly inspecting buildings and keeping them up to code.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...arment-factory

Corporations working their employees literally to the point of a mental breakdown and suicide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides

Without regulation corporations historically have been fine with not providing employees with; low pay, regular breaks, long hours, bitter job references - effectively blacklisting an employee - unsafe working conditions, etc.

The Libertarian theory is that corporations given free reign will treat their employees well because it's in their economic interest, however reality - as we can see in various sweatshops around the world, where the state doesn't regulate employee conditions - shows that corporations will treat their employees as bad as they can get away with.

I have no idea why anti-regulation people ignore the decades upon decades of historical evidence, showing that corporations will treat employees like crap if they can get away with it.




I highly, highly recommend watching this documentary...



Here it is...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y888wVY5hzw
I have seen that documentary. The Regulation argument doesn't work for me. The regulations on new drugs coming to market kills thousands per years. Economically speaking, There are always costs and benefits of everything.
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Originally Posted By AWSbruh⏩
This isn't the 1950s. That doesn't work anymore. Most successful corporation screw over their employees so their shareholders can profit as much as possible. I have no issues with that
Socialist claptrap.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
The industrial revolution began in the west.

China is the largest 2nd economy in the world.

Corporations aren't restricted to the west.
forget it. you're either that dense or intentionally ignorant. either way you're a waste of time.
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Originally Posted By billyjeanking1⏩
I have seen that documentary. The Regulation argument doesn't work for me. The regulations on new drugs coming to market kills thousands per years.
I would prefer that drugs be released on to the market with safety checks.

The Libertarian notion is usually that 'if a drug is unsafe, consumer will get sick/die and then that will be bad PR for the company, so they will go out of business... And only the good ones will survive'.

Again though, we have literal evidence that when unregulated people can and will sell unsafe products (e.g. street drug dealers who sell rec drugs or celltech mixed with unsafe things, or that's made in unsanitary conditions).

"Fake birth control pills. Cough syrup for children that contained a powerful opioid. Antimalarial pills that were actually just made of potato and cornstarch.

These are, according to the World Health Organization, just a few examples of poor-quality or fake medicines identified in recent years.

In a report released this week, WHO estimates that "1 in 10 medical products circulating in low- and middle-income countries is either substandard or falsified." That includes pills, vaccines and diagnostic kits."

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...=1563449901218

There are places in the world where market forces are the only thing incentive companies to give people good medicine (due to a lack of regulation, or unenforced regulation), and (like the above link summarizes) they sell people either stuff that literally does nothing, or is harmful.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
forget it. you're either that dense or intentionally ignorant. either way you're a waste of time.
All you need to do is explain yourself.

You write with 1 or 2 sentences, seemingly hoping that people understand what you are implying, when you could simply just explain what you mean.

Have you considered that maybe you aren't good at explaining yourself, and the fault isn't with the other person.

I'm debating other people ITT and even though I disagree with them, they explain their points... I don't see why you think you need to be different from everyone else ITT.
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