Thread: My body my choice
05-19-2020, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
I never denied we released aerosols. What I was negating was the transmission of the virus through aerosols.Go to school dip**** or google before posting. We release aerosols everytime something comes out of our mouth...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-38808-z

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-38808-z
Droplets are a different matter
All that ice must have frozen your brain solid lil boy
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Originally Posted By freshnevafrozen⏩
If this was TB, ebola, or measles then yes let's wear some masksYou antimask cels are something else. You wouldn't have survived a more serious pandemic in our history if you can't be bothered to wear a phucking mask when going out in public for a few weeks.
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
Dude should have spent his time going to debate school. Logic, not even once.so if youre so bright and educated how does the concept of a mask go over your head
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Originally Posted By Kay4Kool⏩
new england journal of medicine disagrees but okI never denied we released aerosols. What I was negating was the transmission of the virus through aerosols.
Droplets are a different matter
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Droplets are a different matter
All that ice must have frozen your brain solid lil boy
stay mad

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05-19-2020, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
more like you were never coolI'm 40 and it was never cool.
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05-19-2020, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
LMAO you’re getting destroyed by everyone ITT.hey, im 40, it was cool then, just like I think a paragraph on your side or neck and face tattoos are retarded
Face tattoos and paragraphs on the side of your neck is absolutely retarded now, lmao at you comparing your low IQ tattoo with those and proving his point.
Your analogies are horrible and you’re trying to defend this impossible position you’ve put yourself in.
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05-19-2020, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Brah, HIV doesnt go away on its own.You are right... Covid is highly transmittable and kills more people.
05-19-2020, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
Thats not a very nice thing to sayMy point is, im not responsible for you or your health so I won't wear a mask.
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05-19-2020, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted By freshnevafrozen⏩
i just realize its not a more serious pandemic. Thats the point. If ebola was going around I would go out, and if I did I'd be wearing masks and any other type of protective wearYou antimask cels are something else. You wouldn't have survived a more serious pandemic in our history if you can't be bothered to wear a phucking mask when going out in public for a few weeks.
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05-19-2020, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By tunafish01⏩
Cool, tell that to the 90k people that have died from Covid. I'm sure they'd rather have had HIV.Brah, HIV doesnt go away on its own.
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05-19-2020, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Would you rather have covid or hiv..?Cool, tell that to the 90k people that have died from Covid. I'm sure they'd rather have had HIV.
05-19-2020, 01:07 PM
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05-19-2020, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
Ebola is spread via contact with bodily fluids to a mucous membrane or open skin like a cut not via droplets or aerosol... Do strangers piss on your face?Thats the point. If ebola was going around I would go out, and if I did I'd be wearing masks and any other type of protective wear
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05-19-2020, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
Do you read the studies?new england journal of medicine disagrees but ok


"Generated with the use of a three-jet Collison nebulizer and fed into a Goldberg drum to create an aerosolized environment. The inoculum resulted in cycle-threshold values between 20 and 22, similar to those observed in samples obtained from the upper and lower respiratory tract in humans."
Once again, done through intubation which gives off false results compared to real world. You do realize pumping a stagnant box with a virus for 8 minutes and then collecting results for60 minuteswithNO AIRFLOWdoes nothing for comparison to real world results where there is air flow, dilution, human thermal plumes etc.
But I wouldn't expect much from a sheep who goes around quoting National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases studies pushing propaganda.
Go watch your news lil boy
05-19-2020, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
i can source my training, and you tell me if it sounds right. First change into clean scrubs, wash hands, apply hair net, don shoe covers,,don shoe covers, spray gloves with ipa. Enter clean areas. Enter control room. Don coveralls, don second layer of gloves, spray gloves. Enter into the actual entrance room. Don boots, don coveralls, don maskso if youre so bright and educated how does the concept of a mask go over your head
please cite sources
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I'll get into detail. I think I missed a few steps above but by now we would have to have two pairs of sterile gloves on and spraying our hands between every step.
Open mask and place container on sanitized surface. Grab the two bottom tied not touching any other parts and tie that behind your neck,(tie point can differ slightly depending on your head). Grab the other two and pull to the top back of your head and tie. Secure the metal tab around you nose with a small pinch. Spray hands again.
I'll skip some of the latter steps because it involved hoods and frocks and gloves and sleeve, a lot of additional layer before you enter.
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05-19-2020, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
Again you missed a simple point, covid is as deadly as a juiced up fluEbola is spread via contact with bodily fluids to a mucous membrane or open skin like a cut not via droplets or aerosol... Do strangers piss on your face?
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Came in to post this. I'm sure personal freedoms dictate not being infected by a contagious disease or be forced to sit at home 24/7What about my choice to not get infected by you?
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Originally Posted By Kay4Kool⏩
missed this partDo you read the studies?
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"Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is plausible, since the virus can remain viable and infectious in aerosols for hours and on surfaces up to days (depending on the inoculum shed). These findings echo those with SARS-CoV-1, in which these forms of transmission were associated with nosocomial spread and super-spreading events,5 and they provide information for pandemic mitigation efforts."
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05-19-2020, 01:13 PM
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In one study, control rhesus macaques, which were located 3 m from the experimental rhesus macaques challenged intramuscularly with EBOV, became infected.49 In that study, the pattern of pulmonary antigen staining on pathology specimens suggested aerosol infection.Alternatively, transmission might have occurred through various behavioral activities or through routine animal husbandry practicesEbola is spread via contact with bodily fluids to a mucous membrane or open skin like a cut not via droplets or aerosol... Do strangers piss on your face?
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I bolded the negation, but even that is not enough to convince me of ebola not being transmitted through aerosol.
You just keep hurting yourself because this is obviously outside your scope.
Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
I didn't retardmissed this part
"Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is plausible, since the virus can remain viable and infectious in aerosols for hours and on surfaces up to days (depending on the inoculum shed). These findings echo those with SARS-CoV-1, in which these forms of transmission were associated with nosocomial spread and super-spreading events,5 and they provide information for pandemic mitigation efforts."
"Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is plausible, since the virus can remain viable and infectious in aerosols for hours and on surfaces up to days (depending on the inoculum shed). These findings echo those with SARS-CoV-1, in which these forms of transmission were associated with nosocomial spread and super-spreading events,5 and they provide information for pandemic mitigation efforts."
Plausible due to fake conditions is not plausible
If you don't see how you can manipulate studies to get the results you want like I pointed out
Obvious low knowledge
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
Again you missed a simple point, covid is as deadly as a juiced up flu

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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
its the same as every health aspect, protect yourself, don't expect others to do it.Came in to post this. I'm sure personal freedoms dictate not being infected by a contagious disease or be forced to sit at home 24/7
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
Is it not? 80k is as bad as flu has been in past years, not a pivot, just facts
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
Its not infringing on personal freedoms for people to HAVE to walk around in hazmat suits because infected people aren't self isolating, as an example.its the same as every health aspect, protect yourself, don't expect others to do it.
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
you can transmit a virus, man land on moon. Shocking study, if they didn't, no one would ever get sickmissed this part
"Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is plausible, since the virus can remain viable and infectious in aerosols for hours and on surfaces up to days (depending on the inoculum shed). These findings echo those with SARS-CoV-1, in which these forms of transmission were associated with nosocomial spread and super-spreading events,5 and they provide information for pandemic mitigation efforts."
"Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is plausible, since the virus can remain viable and infectious in aerosols for hours and on surfaces up to days (depending on the inoculum shed). These findings echo those with SARS-CoV-1, in which these forms of transmission were associated with nosocomial spread and super-spreading events,5 and they provide information for pandemic mitigation efforts."
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personal choices, if you feel there's risk, then don't go out. Just like any cold or flu virus before this one. You risk your life any time you step out of the door, go and your car and you may get in a wreck, going hiking and you risk getting struck by lightning.
But let's shut down all of society.
But let's shut down all of society.
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
Traffic lights & rules of the road exist to mitigate those risks. Are they not infringing on personal freedoms?personal choices, if you feel there's risk, then don't go out. Just like any cold or flu virus before this one. You risk your life any time you step out of the door, go and your car and you may get in a wreck, going hiking and you risk getting struck by lightning.
But let's shut down all of society.
But let's shut down all of society.
Yes they are, but you agree to them for the betterment of society.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
i personally don't feel telling me I have to wear a mask is not the same as the traffic lights. Thats because, I care about my own safety as well as the safety of others and if I don't follow traffic light then I risk my life.Traffic lights & rules of the road exist to mitigate those risks. Are they not infringing on personal freedoms?
Yes they are, but you agree to them for the betterment of society.
Yes they are, but you agree to them for the betterment of society.
I'm not risking my life by wearing a mask. By that I mean the odds of me getting killed by covid is less than me getting killed in a car accident and is as preventable as me getting killed in a car accident by no fault of my own.
Cliffs: not following traffic laws is far more dangerous to me than covid
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Right. So we all wear masks and we all get to go out. Easy peasy for anyone with a brain larger than a peanut.Came in to post this. I'm sure personal freedoms dictate not being infected by a contagious disease or be forced to sit at home 24/7
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BTW, I have stayed home, just go for groceries or things I need, I don't get close to sneez or cough on people and keep a distance. I just refuse to wear a mask unless required for something I need to, i.e. work or is a store requires, but I avoid that.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
no, because I don't feel like wearing one and it's not required.Right. So we all wear masks and we all get to go out. Easy peasy for anyone with a brain larger than a peanut.
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
op still confused what droplet precautions are i seeno, because I don't feel like wearing one and it's not required.
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