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post 1639773153 05-30-2021, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Even Chappelle realized there is a dark side...

"Comedian Dave Chappelle described this interpretation problem in an interview with Oprah Winfrey in 2006. He discussed a skit in which he played a pixie who appeared in black face.

There was a good-spirited intention behind it. So then when I’m on the set, and we’re finally taping the sketch, somebody on the set [who] was white laughed in such a way – I know the difference of people laughing with me and people laughing at me – and it was the first time I had ever gotten a laugh that I was uncomfortable with. Not just uncomfortable, but like, should I fire this person?"


On the flip side it's also the best disguise for genuine prejudice.

A good summary of the opposite effect of what you are saying...

https://theconversation.com/psycholo...enigrate-63855
Do you honestly think no one is prejudiced? Everyone is a little racist against other races brah. The way we get past that is by laughing together and realizing that it's not that serious. There's a big difference between thinking [a race] is [a stereotype] and being a danger to society.
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels
lol coming from the beta living in a state with one of the biggest number of inbreds and white supremacists.
Lol at someone terrified of a vaccine calling someone else beta.
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post 1639775553 05-30-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By mp83
Lol at someone terrified of a vaccine calling someone else beta.
lol at someone so terrified of flu like symptoms that are willing to inject themselves with aborted fetal matter and heavy metals.

And you have no rebuttal for living in literally one of, if not the most redneck/inbred/racist states lmfao.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
Do you honestly think no one is prejudiced? Everyone is a little racist against other races brah. The way we get past that is by laughing together and realizing that it's not that serious. There's a big difference between thinking [a race] is [a stereotype] and being a danger to society.
You didn't address anything that I wrote, or that the article said.

You didn't even address Chappelle's comment, despite seemingly trying to use him to justify some of the threads and posts from white racist miscers who hide behind 'it's a joke'.
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post 1639775623 05-30-2021, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
I think there's plenty of baiting going on from all sides..
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You know, people also told tell me I looked like the great Mariah Carey- your 10/10- besides Pamela Anderson. My face is on my profile page, but the pic didn't come out clear. I guess they saw some physical influence of both women in me. I'm flattered.

I try to sing Mariah, but there will only be ONE extremely talented Mimi; her precise vocal agility (riffs), power, sensual tone, musicality (R&B) and range cannot be rivaled!!! But I love practicing her hits from 90's- 00's anyway- a fun hobby of mine.
you do kinda look like Mariah.

Age?
post 1639775793 05-30-2021, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By drvillain
lold
Exactly.

How many threads and posts about how bad white people are there, vs the amount of threads and posts about how bad Blacks and Jews are on the misc?

Straight up, some people are outright being disingenuous ITT.

Next thing people will be claiming that the misc is not misogynistic and instead 'just tells the truth about women'.
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post 1639776063 05-30-2021, 02:57 PM
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MAGA boys are just pissed conservatives are taking major L's in life. This forum is all they have, so we shouldn't be too harsh. But yes the right wingers have def ruined this forum, just non stop race baiting and crying.

Funniest thing is the far right complain about the far left being soft when they cry just as much.
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Originally Posted By TheBannedBrah
MAGA boys are just pissed conservatives are taking major L's in life. This forum is all they have, so we shouldn't be too harsh. But yes the right wingers have def ruined this forum, just non stop race baiting and crying.

Funniest thing is the far right complain about the far left being soft when they cry just as much.
lol Cucknada.

have fun in perpetual Lockdown.
post 1639776353 05-30-2021, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels
lol Cucknada.

have fun in perpetual Lockdown.
Typical Low IQ response, just a broken record at this point. Nothing funnier than coming at this site and seeing you right wingers cry about everything in the world. And you guys try to act like you are tough lmao.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Exactly.

How many threads and posts about how bad white people are there, vs the amount of threads and posts about how bad Blacks and Jews are on the misc?

Straight up, some people are outright being disingenuous ITT.

Next thing people will be claiming that the misc is not misogynistic and instead 'just tells the truth about women'.
Well I would speculate much of that is a response to the media, academia, and a large part of the rest of the internet) continuously pushing this "evil whitey", "poor innocent oppressed minorities", etc narrative. If you want to speak about disingenuous then there are many example of that on a far bigger state than some bodybuilding forum.
post 1639776613 05-30-2021, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By TheBannedBrah
Typical Low IQ response, just a broken record at this point. Nothing funnier than coming at this site and seeing you right wingers cry about everything in the world. And you guys try to act like you are tough lmao.
It's low IQ to you, but it's idiots such as yourself that support ridiculous measures like that and a tyrannical government that are the broke records.

Go back into hiding beta.
post 1639776853 05-30-2021, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels
It's low IQ to you, but it's idiots such as yourself that support ridiculous measures like that and a tyrannical government that are the broke records.

Go back into hiding beta.
No one supports these lockdowns you moron.

Weren't you right wingers the one crying about the stolen election? What did you guys do, go to the capitol, get charged for being a dumbass then went home and stfu.

It always funny to see right wingers say they will always go against a tyrannical government and that's why you have guns, but in the end you guys don't do ****.
post 1639777233 05-30-2021, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422
When people who happen to have been born with white skin are told that their experience is less difficult and that they are innately privileged and should step back and prioritize the well being of people who happened to be born with some other skin color it naturally pisses them off..
With all due respect Katya, that's a big strawman from the far Right...


White privilege doesn't mean that white people can't or don't have problems. What it means is that being white gives you advantages, that non-whites don't have.

Just like being a man gives you advantages that women don't have, and vice versa.

Depending on the race and gender demographic, there are social advantages and disadvantages.

All things being equal, white people have advantages.

(e.g.

A study showing that even when intentionally shown harmless footage of kids of all races playing, over 40% of teachers will say the black kid needs to be monitored.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...reschool-study

The study of stereotypical Asian and African-American names vs stereotypical white names with the exact same CV, and the white CV getting significantly more interview offers.

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minoritie...ore-interviews

The studies of black and white offenders with similar backgrounds, and the black offenders receiving longer sentences...

https://www.ussc.gov/research/resear...ces-sentencing

Research showing that white women benefit the most from affirmative action, despite white people assuming that it's non-whites who benefit the most and hate on non-whites for it.

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/116829...rmative-action

Research showing that even if a Black child scores the same as a white child, they are less likely to be put into a gifted class...

https://digitalpromise.org/2018/09/1...tified-gifted/ )



A black and a white kid who grow up in a single parent home, in a low income house, socially are still not on an even playing field. Which doesn't mean to not have empathy and compassion for the white kid (though some people do take it that way), some people genuinely believe that stereotyping, prejudice and racism has literally no bearing when it comes to education, job prospects, dating, etc. Which are very important areas in life, and it does.

The only people I've ever known deny that racism exists have been white people, and I've been friends with South Asians, East Asians, Arabs, and Blacks. Noone else has ever made statements like that other than white people.
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post 1639777303 05-30-2021, 03:13 PM
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Not even close OP this place has become overrun with leftist/communist scum.

I guess these *******s are getting tired of Reddit, anyway as far as R&P goes get big.com has a way better subsection not as full of mouth breathing limp wrist like this place.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Well I would speculate much of that is a response to the media, academia, and a large part of the rest of the internet) continuously pushing this "evil whitey", "poor innocent oppressed minorities", etc narrative. If you want to speak about disingenuous then there are many example of that on a far bigger state than some bodybuilding forum.
This thread is about this forum.

Also - I'm sure you'll agree - that the MSM doesn't represent the people, and 'retaliating' against minorities for what the MSM says is low IQ and childish.
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post 1639777653 05-30-2021, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By TheBannedBrah
No one supports these lockdowns you moron.

Weren't you right wingers the one crying about the stolen election? What did you guys do, go to the capitol, get charged for being a dumbass then went home and stfu.

It always funny to see right wingers say they will always go against a tyrannical government and that's why you have guns, but in the end you guys don't do ****.
I never supported what happened at the capital nor do I claim to be a right winger.

Yes, most Canadians do support it actually.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
This thread is about this forum.

Also - I'm sure you'll agree - that the MSM doesn't represent the people,and 'retaliating' against minorities for what the MSM says is low IQ and childish.
Okay it's about the forum, but that doesn't mean we should just disregard the bigger picture.

I mean...this is a forum, and like a male locker room type environment. I don't consider some venting (I can't think of a better word) against a BS narrative that is pretty damn widespread (and it's not just MSM) to really be "retaliating" - that seems rather melodramatic. Now if white MISCers were using the media's BS as an excuse to go around inflicting violence (ie the "knockout game") against random blacks, or something else actually tangible, then I would agree.

Also, to clarify I'm not saying there is 0 racism here and that ALL of the alleged "racist" posts here fall into the "venting" category that I mentioned above.
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis
I don't make an effort to agree with the general ideas or certain users really. I definitely don't have issues with race and religion like a lot of people do. A lot of stuff I post gets people salty.

But I do care about people in general and I can speak my mind freely. I am willing to talk chit as well and have an open discussion. I am willing to take chit and dish it out which in a man's mind is grounds for respect. It's like how guys can beat each other up and be bros after.

It seems weightlifting is mostly a male thing but I can respect someone with the gumption to go against that. Same with other typically male things, chicks get a lot of chit in those areas but deep down they are respected for having the courage to do it.
Thank you!! I like your thoughtful post!!! I don't think it takes "courage," per se, to get into weightlifting- just the intrinsic desire to do so.... confidence in our abilities. It has to come from within in order to keep on top of it for years and years, because it just gets tougher to maintain and build upon. The same holds true for men of all ages.



lol... There's everything RIGHT with making an effort to agree with members, mods, leaders, etc., etc. in the industry!! But in order to stay true your own beliefs, it's ok to politely disagree or defend your "position," if necessary! For instance, I've had to continually remind male members, alts and trolls that wanted to purposely create conflict I was just a woman and NOT a transgender. So, it's recommended you stand up for yourself as long as you do it fairly and as respectfully as possible, but no one can be sweet all the time...that's for sure! That's why empathy is a great skill to practice



Yeah, I never had issues with race, religion, people in general... I'm usually the type that gets along with all different types of people...usually never have problems. But I've been known to give it back to people who start with me- I'm humanI'd much rather just go about my own business nowadays and communicate with people who seem more like me....

....But let me ask you- if you care about people, then why do you 'talk chit to them'? I know guys do that a lot, but does it come from a place of respect and camaraderie or unamicable "competition"? I guess it depends on a few factors. Completely normal, especially with guys.
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels
I never supported what happened at the capital nor do I claim to be a right winger.

Yes, most Canadians do support it actually.
Because you live here to know right? Try a little harder next time.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
With all due respect Katya, that's a big strawman from the far Right...


White privilege doesn't mean that white people can't or don't have problems. What it means is that being white gives you advantages, that non-whites don't have.

Just like being a man gives you advantages that women don't have, and vice versa.

A black and a white kid who grow up in a single parent home, in a low income house, socially are still not on an even playing field. Which doesn't mean to not have empathy and compassion for the white kid (though some people do take it that way), some people genuinely believe that stereotyping, prejudice and racism has literally no bearing when it comes to education, job prospects, dating, etc. Which are very important areas in life, and it does.

The only people I've ever known deny that racism exists have been white people, and I've been friends with South Asians, East Asians, Arabs, and Blacks. Noone else has ever made statements like that other than white people.
Oh, I wasn't claiming that there are no advantages to being white or that racism doesn't exist.

Just stating that IMO the increased vocalized anger from *some* white people is based on feeling personally attacked as racist/privileged while at the same time seeing other groups receive preferential treatment.

I do tend to think that in matters relating to education and employment preference [if any] should be needs based, not race based. There are wealthy and successful families of various races and there are poor and disadvantaged families of various races. I won't claim to know how innate ability, prior performance, and economic/social disadvantages should be weighted to attempt some type of fairness.

I think that maybe what irks me is the idea that race is THE factor when it comes to discrimination when that is demonstrably false.

- height
- weight
- clothing
- grooming
- dental health
- speaking ability
- age
- sex
- religious affiliation
- physical or mental disability

^^^
Often these can be quickly identified and can be reasons for bias/discrimination. Some can be altered by choice, while others can't be. We can pass laws against discrimination, but as it is often difficult to prove and sometimes even unconscious I see no way to eliminate it.
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I mean, just yesterday someone was posting gifts of hitlers wife while other posters called him a “Chad” for getting her. It’s cool if this place is a conservative strong hold, the internet could use one but since when did conservatism be about liking Hitler and hating the Jews?
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Originally Posted By etet1919
if you care about people, then why do you 'talk chit to them'?
It's just like banter really, like you aren't trying to hurt somone but instead just taking the piss. I guess it's funny, but you don't go too far. And it goes back and forth too.

There are some people I would not be so loose around, but with guys it's just kind of a casual thing. Also sometimes I think you have to be upfront and direct if you think it will help someone. Yeah it does come from a place of respect.

Some guys can't handle this though and get dramatic about it or take things too far. Like "if you can't take it then don't dish it out." I think it all depends on who you are talking to.
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i cringe so hard at ethnics that cry about racism, so whites don't like you, get over it you entitled motherfukers
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis
It's just like banter really, like you aren't trying to hurt somone but instead just taking the piss. I guess it's funny, but you don't go too far. And it goes back and forth too.

There are some people I would not be so loose around, but with guys it's just kind of a casual thing. Also sometimes I think you have to be upfront and direct if you think it will help someone. Yeah it does come from a place of respect.

Some guys can't handle this though and get dramatic about it or take things too far. Like "if you can't take it then don't dish it out." I think it all depends on who you are talking to.
But it also depends on how you say things to people- how you speak to them. You can absolutely have only good intentions in wanting to help someone or one of your bros by being straightforward and tactful at the same time! Tactfulness is the key.
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Can I get a quick rundown on what happened to misc in the past 6 months or so?

I checked in today after ages and apparently misc has been shut down or some chit. I can access it just fine, but it seems 'different'.

Also agree that this is basically **********. It has been getting progressively worse since 2015-16 Trump election. The rest of the internet got over it, but it doesn't look like the misc did.
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Originally Posted By jofedm
I mean, just yesterday someone was posting gifts of hitlers wife while other posters called him a “Chad” for getting her. It’s cool if this place is a conservative strong hold, the internet could use one but since when did conservatism be about liking Hitler and hating the Jews?
This. Not sure why the traditionally pro-America, pro-military right would idolize some azzhole dictator who put a bullet into his own skull rather than face the oncoming hoardes of American GIs. The Nazis were degenerate scum.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Oh, I wasn't claiming that there are no advantages to being white or that racism doesn't exist.
I knew you weren't saying racism doesn't exist.
Just stating that IMO the increased vocalized anger from *some* white people is based on feeling personally attacked as racist/privileged while at the same time seeing other groups receive preferential treatment.

I do tend to think that in matters relating to education and employment preference [if any] should be needs based, not race based. There are wealthy and successful families of various races and there are poor and disadvantaged families of various races.
I agree. I'll just remind lurkers again though...White women benefit the most from Affirmative Action. So the white race benefits the most from Affirmative Action, despite narratives to the contrary.
I think that maybe what irks me is the idea that race is THE factor when it comes to discrimination when that is demonstrably false.

- height
- weight
- clothing
- grooming
- dental health
- speaking ability
- age
- sex
- religious affiliation
- physical or mental disability

^^^
Often these can be quickly identified and can be reasons for bias/discrimination. Some can be altered by choice, while others can't be.
Most people who talk about about race discrimination don't believe that - the educated ones at least - because they believe in something called intersectionality.

Which is basically the understanding that a convergence of factors can result in social advantages and disadvantages.
We can pass laws against discrimination, but as it is often difficult to prove and sometimes even unconscious I see no way to eliminate it.
I'm sure you'll agree that things - in the west - are significantly better than at the beginning of the 20th century. So I think we are making good progress.
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Originally Posted By Brahzymandias
This. Not sure why the traditionally pro-America, pro-military right would idolize some azzhole dictator who put a bullet into his own skull rather than face the oncoming hoardes of American GIs. The Nazis were degenerate scum.
I've also said it before... You might as well piss on the graves of WW2 vets. Yet these same people consider themselves patriots.
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Originally Posted By lolatpaniccels
lol at someone so terrified of flu like symptoms that are willing to inject themselves with aborted fetal matter and heavy metals.

And you have no rebuttal for living in literally one of, if not the most redneck/inbred/racist states lmfao.
I don't give a crap if I get it. However, unlike you, I am not a sociopath and want people to get the vaccine so that my loved ones who are more vulnerable to it than I am are further protected. Some of us actually care about our elderly relatives. Sorry I am not a selfish, sociopathic beta like you
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