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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So you think Andy Griffith was reflective of how most people actually lived in the 30's?
No, but you think the basic ethical and moral teachings anywhere prior to 1970, especially in respect to family, are undone by the cultural landscape to which you now fit. I.E - you’re a weak, virgin, fatherless soyboy, and you’re stuck fighting an identity war that you have no need to fight.

Some people have families to take care of.

Others, are virgin pseudointellectual internet warriors.

Even if you win, you still lose.
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Originally Posted By TheFornicator1
No, but you think the basic ethical and moral teachings anywhere prior to 1970, especially in respect to family, are undone by the cultural landscape to which you now fit. I.E - you’re a weak, virgin, fatherless soyboy, and you’re stuck fighting an identity war that you have no need to fight.

Some people have families to take care of.

Others, are virgin pseudointellectual internet warriors.

Even if you win, you still lose.
Gosh I bet universal healthcare, assistance for needy families, and educational funding would help with that.
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Originally Posted By TheFornicator1
No, but you think the basic ethical and moral teachings anywhere prior to 1970, especially in respect to family, are undone by the cultural landscape to which you now fit. I.E - you’re a weak, virgin, fatherless soyboy, and you’re stuck fighting an identity war that you have no need to fight.

Some people have families to take care of.

Others, are virgin pseudointellectual internet warriors.

Even if you win, you still lose.
So you agree with my original point that a television show isn't an accurate depiction of how people lived or parented. Therefore, wanting things to get back to how they were on Andy Griffith is wanting a return to something that never existed.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV
This used to be a fair talking point. Now it's useful to them considering retards like leonydus (and his alts) jayzuz, keyboard, calmwind, largepeter, etc keep spewing neo nazi garbage.

Like I said, these are the retards that are going to push moderates to the left.
Ooooh I see now

hahahaah

this ****ing guy, BullittEv. Actually thinks anything I say is "neo nazi"


brb Christian is neo nazi
brb not allowed to criticize anti-Christian behavior by Jewish culture
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So you agree with my original point that a television show isn't an accurate depiction of how people lived or parented. Therefore, wanting things to get back to how they were on Andy Griffith is wanting a return to something that never existed.
That is how a lot of Americans, and the -world- parented children for thousands of years in the West.

It's taught in the Bible. Discipline them, teach them, protect them from seductive temptations and bad ideas that will lead them astray.


one example verse on the subject :

Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live!
10 They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness.
11 No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.

- Hebrews 12:9-11
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post 1682609013 05-12-2023, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
Gosh I bet universal healthcare, assistance for needy families, and educational funding would help with that.
no, strong family units and raising children to be productive citizens would, free chit never works the way its intended

you wouldnt understand being from communist china
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Originally Posted By BullittEV
This used to be a fair talking point. Now it's useful to them considering retards like leonydus (and his alts) jayzuz, keyboard, calmwind, largepeter, etc keep spewing neo nazi garbage.

Like I said, these are the retards that are going to push moderates to the left.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Ooooh I see now

hahahaah

this ****ing guy, BullittEv. Actually thinks anything I say is "neo nazi"


brb Christian is neo nazi
brb not allowed to criticize anti-Christian behavior by Jewish culture
I dont even know what youre talking about. Youre a liability to the right with your religious zealousness, talking about groups of people like theyre trash.. It's one thing to have values from religion, its another to post bible verses and go full retard.

Christian values > Jewish values when raising children.

Next, doofus?

I really bought your "hahaha," seriously!
Originally Posted By LargePeter
Lacrosse Crew

lmfao
Yeah, I understand it's a sport for upper middle/upper class folks, so you wouldnt get it.

Like I said, calmwind actually does make good points, youre just an actual foreign retard that's bootlicking the idea of the nazi state wherever you are. Makes sense since you willingly just gave up all your guns like good sheep.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
That is how a lot of Americans, and the -world- parented children for thousands of years in the West.

It's taught in the Bible. Discipline them, teach them, protect them from seductive temptations and bad ideas that will lead them astray.


one example verse on the subject :

Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live!
10 They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness.
11 No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.

- Hebrews 12:9-11
Who says it's any different now?
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Originally Posted By Seatard
The people who allowed the idea that children should decide for themselves were parented by the people in the video though.
Multiple reasons for that like women entering the work force en masse, having less kids, more single parent homes, etc. For anyone interested in diving into the terrible issues with helicopter parenting and giving children too much control in a bad way here’s a great podcast. It’s much better than wasting time arguing with the JLC or Wincel.






If you’re a parent, you likely want your kid to flourish and succeed. And according to my guest today, the best way to do that is to let your kid fail.

Her name is Jessica Lahey and she’s a teacher and the author of the book, The Gift of Failure: How the Best Parents Learn to Let Go So Their Children Can Succeed. Today on the show, Jess gives us a quick overview of the history of parenting in America and why it’s gotten more protective and more involved in the past few decades. We then discuss the many downsides of helicopter parenting and why letting your kids fail is so important for their long-term development. Jessica then gets into the nitty gritty of areas where you should let your kid experience failure and how to make sure these failures become learning experiences.

Show Highlights
The backstory that led Jess to writing this book, including her own failures at home
The culture shifts that have led us to an age of overprotective parenting
From child-rearing to parenting
The ways in which parents freak each other out
Downsides of overprotective parenting
How to give your kids more autonomy
Why frustration is important for kids to feel
Why you shouldn’t tell your kids that they’re intrinsically smart
Striving for “autonomy supportive” parenting
How giving less guidance and advice can improve your relationship with your kids
How do you resist the urge to just do things for your kid when they’re doing something the wrong way?
Process over product
Why it’s so important to assign kids “household duties” (rather than “chores”)
Why Jess doesn’t care if her kids’ rooms are clean
How young to start kids on doing things around the house
Letting your kids do “dangerous” things
Your kids’ friendships; what to do when they’re hanging out with the wrong crowd
Handling school, and the importance of getting good grades
Why letting her kid go to school with a crappy science fair project was one of the best things she’s done
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Who says it's any different now?
Who says that things haven't changed?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Multiple reasons for that like women entering the work force en masse, having less kids, more single parent homes, etc. For anyone interested in diving into the terrible issues with helicopter parenting and giving children too much control in a bad way here’s a great podcast. It’s much better than wasting time arguing with the JLC or Wincel.
Helicopter parenting is the opposite of giving kids control.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Who says that things haven't changed?
Me, for one.

I'm unconvinced that the proportion of parents who are uninvolved in their kids lives had charged substantially.

Kids know the difference between right and wing from a very early age.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It seems difficult for conservatives to comprehend that classic TV wasn't real life. Not at the time, not now.
No yummy covid, or tranny and drag freaks then... Isn't that right JFC.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Me, for one.

I'm unconvinced that the proportion of parents who are uninvolved in their kids lives had charged substantially.

Kids know the difference between right and wing from a very early age.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I dunno how you know how everyone is parentingnow or how you know how everyone parented then, but I'll trust you, bro.
How do you know how everyone is parenting?

Do you have any sources to back these claims? Something a bit more substantive than your "feels" would be nice this time around.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Helicopter parenting is the opposite of giving kids control.
I already know you’re either too dumb to understand how both can exist at the same time or just a troll. Perhaps you should listen to the podcast. A parent can shield their child from responsibilities and failures while simultaneously giving the child too much control over their own path. A child will choose comfort and ease almost every single time if you let them and are not mature enough to know what’s best for them, so that plays right into the helicopter parenting issue. But again you think it should be legal for grown men to walk around naked in front of kids so you clearly don’t have children and will probably never understand proper parenting.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
How do you know how everyone is parenting?

Do you have any sources to back these claims? Something a bit more substantive than your "feels" would be nice this time around.
Nope.

But I'm open to checking out evidence in support of the claim that more parents let kids do whatever they want now than in the 30's.

Or do "feels" only support the claims of leftist conservatives?
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Originally Posted By Polaris
How do you know how everyone is parenting?

Do you have any sources to back these claims? Something a bit more substantive than your "feels" would be nice this time around.
I already provided a video that includes someone explaining how parenting has changed over the decades and gives some reasons for it. As usual he is just argumentative for the sake of being argumentative and speaks on topics he knows little to nothing about.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
I already know you’re either too dumb to understand how both can exist at the same time or just a troll. Perhaps you should listen to the podcast. A parent can shield their child from responsibilities and failures while simultaneously giving the child too much control over their own path. A child will choose comfort and ease almost every single time if you let them and are not mature enough to know what’s best for them, so that plays right into the helicopter parenting issue. But again you think it should be legal for grown men to walk around naked in front of kids so you clearly don’t have children and will probably never understand proper parenting.
Check out what helicopter parenting means

"The meaning of helicopter parenting is loosely defined as parenting that pays excessive attention to children’s every move and experience. Helicopter parents are highly involved, overprotective parents who tirelessly oversee every aspect of their children’s lives and sometimes even act on their behalf."

https://www.parentingforbrain.com/helicopter-parents/
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Nope.

But I'm open to checking out evidence in support of the claim that more parents let kids do whatever they want now than in the 30's.

Or do "feels" only support the claims of leftist conservatives?
Oh, so you have no evidence to support your claims yet again?

I'm beginning to notice pattern with you.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
I already provided a video that includes someone explaining how parenting has changed over the decades and gives some reasons for it. As usual he is just argumentative for the sake of being argumentative and speaks on topics he knows little to nothing about.
Kids aren't born with an instruction manual. But, I do the best I can and consult the available evidence in devising approaches and strategies to parenting.

Many have learned since the 30's.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Kids aren't born with an instruction manual. But, I do the best I canand consult the available evidencein devising approaches and strategies to parenting.

Many have learned since they 30's.
It doesn't seem like it, otherwise you should easily be able to provide some to back up your claims.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Oh, so you have no evidence to support your claims yet again?

I'm beginning to notice pattern with you.
And none from you.

You're beginning to understand equality. That's progress!
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
And none from you.

You're beginning to understand equality. That's progress!
What claims have I made itt?
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Originally Posted By Polaris
It doesn't seem like it, otherwise you should easily be able to provide some to back up your claims.
I trust you, bro.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I trust you, bro.
Just what we'd expect from a pseudointellectual beavercel.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
What claims have I made itt?
Well, that's the beauty of heckling rather than participating.

By limiting contributions to "I don't like what you say, naa naa" , it seems easier to dodge contributing.

If the claim is that things have changed (big if, because some generally don't take the risk of overtly making a claim and instead stick to heckling), I'm open to reviewing the support
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Just what we'd expect from a pseudointellectual beavercel.
Hopefully kanging someone else's posting style will reward you with reps
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Check out what helicopter parenting means

"The meaning of helicopter parenting is loosely defined as parenting that pays excessive attention to children’s every move and experience. Helicopter parents are highly involved, overprotective parents who tirelessly oversee every aspect of their children’s lives and sometimes even act on their behalf."

https://www.parentingforbrain.com/helicopter-parents/
Like I said, you’re too dumb to understand how both can exist at the same time.



https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0804071824.htm


Children have certainly mastered the art of selecting, negotiating and even refusing the chores their parents assign to them.



So kids can be overly protected from their parents in some ways, at the same time parents are giving their kids more power to outright defy their parents when it comes to chores, appearance, and other areas. So more and more kids have a force protecting them from the world while also being a pushover and allowing the kid to choose the easiest path at home by giving them too much power. Now do you understand?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Hopefully kanging someone else's posting style will reward you with reps
Yeah no worries, I've got him on mag change.
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