Forum
»
Long Covid Metabolites 2-years Post-Infection
08-04-2023, 06:18 AM
-
#91
- jtaylor2010
- Join Date: Mar 2010
- Location: United States
- Posts: 33,186
- Rep Power: 441972
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You shared a study which concluded over 17% of people who got Covid had symptoms two years later. You posted numerous studies about long Covid which had zero data validation and simply relied on internet surveys for their data. Then again, we now know you post studies even if you think they are inaccurate…which explains a lot considering some of the studies you post. It doesn’t explain why you so adamantly defend them though, seeing as how you yourself say they don’t indicate what they say they conclude.I think that's you. Your estimates are very high compared to the literature.
08-04-2023, 06:21 AM
-
#92
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
This study also shows evidence 2 years after acute infection. Crazy, eh?You shared a study which concluded over 17% of people who got Covid had symptoms two years later. You posted numerous studies about long Covid which had zero data validation and simply relied on internet surveys for their data. Then again, we now know you post studies even if you think they are inaccurate…which explains a lot considering some of the studies you post. It doesn’t explain why you so adamantly defend them though, seeing as how you yourself say they don’t indicate what they say they conclude.
08-04-2023, 06:53 AM
-
#93
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
-
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
- Join Date: Jan 2005
- Location: Ill.
- Posts: 120,479
- Rep Power: 316531
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Majority of the world had it twice, 17% of the world's population would be close to a billion people. So one billion people are suffering from Long Covid?I think that's you. Your estimates are very high compared to the literature.
08-04-2023, 06:58 AM
-
#94
- jtaylor2010
- Join Date: Mar 2010
- Location: United States
- Posts: 33,186
- Rep Power: 441972
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which study?This study also shows evidence 2 years after acute infection. Crazy, eh?
08-04-2023, 07:01 AM
-
#95
08-04-2023, 07:02 AM
-
#96
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The WHO reports 768,983,095 confirmed cases.Majority of the world had it twice, 17% of the world's population would be close to a billion people. So one billion people are suffering from Long Covid?
08-04-2023, 07:06 AM
-
#97
- jtaylor2010
- Join Date: Mar 2010
- Location: United States
- Posts: 33,186
- Rep Power: 441972
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
For the aims of this study, COVID-19 patient survivors (with confirmed diagnostic based on a positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2) who developed a mild,severe, or critical disease, and were admitted (or hospitalized)in the Instituto Mexicano de Seguridad Social (Zacatecas city, Mexico) and Christus Muguerza del Parque Hospital (Chihuahua city, Mexico) between March and November 2020, were recruited.This study also shows evidence 2 years after acute infection. Crazy, eh?
https://virology.ws/2009/02/13/acute-viral-infections/
An acute viral infection is characterized by rapid onset of disease, a relatively brief period of symptoms, and resolution within days.
08-04-2023, 07:08 AM
-
#98
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Okay?For the aims of this study, COVID-19 patient survivors (with confirmed diagnostic based on a positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2) who developed a mild,severe, or critical disease, and were admitted (or hospitalized)in the Instituto Mexicano de Seguridad Social (Zacatecas city, Mexico) and Christus Muguerza del Parque Hospital (Chihuahua city, Mexico) between March and November 2020, were recruited.
https://virology.ws/2009/02/13/acute-viral-infections/
An acute viral infection is characterized by rapid onset of disease, a relatively brief period of symptoms, and resolution within days.
https://virology.ws/2009/02/13/acute-viral-infections/
An acute viral infection is characterized by rapid onset of disease, a relatively brief period of symptoms, and resolution within days.
Why didn't you bold "mild"?
Does that mean there isn't evidence of metabolites 2 years later?
08-04-2023, 07:10 AM
-
#99
- jtaylor2010
- Join Date: Mar 2010
- Location: United States
- Posts: 33,186
- Rep Power: 441972
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Because I was only pointing out what contradicted your claim(of which there is plenty).Okay?
Why didn't you bold "mild"?
Does that mean there isn't evidence of metabolites 2 years later?
Why didn't you bold "mild"?
Does that mean there isn't evidence of metabolites 2 years later?
Why are you trying to mislead people about the study?
08-04-2023, 07:14 AM
-
#100
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Lol.Because I was only pointing out what contradicted your claim(of which there is plenty).
Why are you trying to mislead people about the study?
Why are you trying to mislead people about the study?
Sucks when evidence converges on things we don't like, eh?
08-04-2023, 07:18 AM
-
#101
- WIBELZ
- Registered User
-
- WIBELZ
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jul 2014
- Age: 45
- Posts: 984
- Rep Power: 3985
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Are mud bloods those who have long term effects of (repeated) infections?
Bro. They lied to you. You bought into it like a good little sheep. Now you only have a couple more years.
08-04-2023, 07:20 AM
-
#102
- jtaylor2010
- Join Date: Mar 2010
- Location: United States
- Posts: 33,186
- Rep Power: 441972
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Hmmm…doesn’t really sound like acute infection to me:Lol.
Sucks when evidence converges on things we don't like, eh?
Sucks when evidence converges on things we don't like, eh?
COVID-19 patient survivors (with confirmed diagnostic based on a positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2) who developed a mild, severe, or critical disease, and were admitted (or hospitalized) in the Instituto Mexicano de Seguridad Social (Zacatecas city, Mexico) and Christus Muguerza del Parque Hospital (Chihuahua city, Mexico) between March and November 2020, were recruited.
Of these, 44 (35.6%) passed away during hospitalization and in the following months after hospital discharge. From 80 survivors, it was possible to contact 36 (by their Social Security Number or personal/relative phone number kept in hospital records), and 15 agreed to participate. For these 15 patients, paired plasma samples from the first diagnosis of the acute disease (COVID-19 group) and post-COVID phase were available.
So they tested 15 people who were hospitalized with OG Covid(with no prior baseline to compare to) and concluded a change.
Strong evidence of lots of people getting long Covid now. Pro tip: when you have to lie about the study that’s a sign it isn’t all that great. Then again it’s likely you’ll say the study doesn’t indicate anything a few weeks from now, as you are known to do.
08-04-2023, 07:25 AM
-
#103
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Hmmm…doesn’t really sound like acute infection to me:
For these 15 patients, paired plasma samples from the first diagnosis of theacute disease (COVID-19 group) and post-COVID phase were available.
For these 15 patients, paired plasma samples from the first diagnosis of theacute disease (COVID-19 group) and post-COVID phase were available.
.
08-04-2023, 08:06 AM
-
#104
- jtaylor2010
- Join Date: Mar 2010
- Location: United States
- Posts: 33,186
- Rep Power: 441972
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
.
If someone is diagnosed with acute disease and then later gets a severe infection to the point of hospitalization does that mean it was actually acute, or that the diagnosis was wrong?
.
08-04-2023, 08:12 AM
-
#105
- x-trainer ben
- Registered User
-
- x-trainer ben
- Registered User
- Join Date: Oct 2005
- Location: United States
- Posts: 62,386
- Rep Power: 451180
-
-
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Another wrong guess, but that is how you roll, mostly wrong about things.Let me guess, your female friend who was vaccinated, got the weakest variant and was bed ridden for two weeks, is suffering from "Long Covid."
Sucks to be you!
Try and keep up with the adult discussion here about statistical changes over time.
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
08-04-2023, 08:14 AM
-
#106
08-04-2023, 08:15 AM
-
#107
- x-trainer ben
- Registered User
-
- x-trainer ben
- Registered User
- Join Date: Oct 2005
- Location: United States
- Posts: 62,386
- Rep Power: 451180
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
He only asks questions that fit what he already thinks, then he replies to them no matter how you reply to the previous question.Do you answer questions or only ask?
It is a very robotic, non human, approach to replying.
There are many posters like him who reveal very little about their own personal characteristics, decisions and choices, and solely focus on you and your decisions.
Its creepy.
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
08-04-2023, 08:30 AM
-
#108
Originally Posted By x-trainer
Perhaps there's comfort in addressing discussants rather than topics?He only asks questions that fit what he already thinks, then he replies to them no matter how you reply to the previous question.
It is a very robotic, non human, approach to replying.
There are many posters like him who reveal very little about their own personal characteristics, decisions and choices, and solely focus on you and your decisions.
Its creepy.
It is a very robotic, non human, approach to replying.
There are many posters like him who reveal very little about their own personal characteristics, decisions and choices, and solely focus on you and your decisions.
Its creepy.
08-04-2023, 10:02 AM
-
#109
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
-
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
- Join Date: Jan 2005
- Location: Ill.
- Posts: 120,479
- Rep Power: 316531
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You do know that many people had it, and didn't get tested? Hell, China stopped counting their numbers after a few months.The WHO reports 768,983,095 confirmed cases.
08-04-2023, 10:04 AM
-
#110
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
-
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
- Join Date: Jan 2005
- Location: Ill.
- Posts: 120,479
- Rep Power: 316531
-
-
Originally Posted By x-trainer
Okay? So your female friend isn't suffering from "Long Covid," I guess she just got lucky.......Another wrong guess, but that is how you roll, mostly wrong about things.
Sucks to be you!
Try and keep up with the adult discussion here about statistical changes over time.
Sucks to be you!
Try and keep up with the adult discussion here about statistical changes over time.
08-04-2023, 10:04 AM
-
#111
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Right. That was my question. Do you think ascertainment estimates were/are off by orders of magnitude?You do know that many people had it, and didn't get tested? Hell, China stopped counting their numbers after a few months.
08-04-2023, 10:05 AM
-
#112
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
-
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
- Join Date: Jan 2005
- Location: Ill.
- Posts: 120,479
- Rep Power: 316531
-
-
Originally Posted By x-trainer
Truth is, unlike you, I'm not taking Rainman here seriously. I know the Rona was very traumatic for you, you admitted to suffering from "Covid Fatigue," rest ofnus were living our lives like usual.He only asks questions that fit what he already thinks, then he replies to them no matter how you reply to the previous question.
It is a very robotic, non human, approach to replying.
There are many posters like him who reveal very little about their own personal characteristics, decisions and choices, and solely focus on you and your decisions.
Its creepy.
It is a very robotic, non human, approach to replying.
There are many posters like him who reveal very little about their own personal characteristics, decisions and choices, and solely focus on you and your decisions.
Its creepy.

08-04-2023, 10:07 AM
-
#113
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
-
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
- Join Date: Jan 2005
- Location: Ill.
- Posts: 120,479
- Rep Power: 316531
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You're the one claiming that 17% of those who got the Rona, are suffering long term complications. Since the majority of the planet got it, despite what the WHO says, that would mean that close to a billion people are still ****ed up?I think that's you. Your estimates are very high compared to the literature.
08-04-2023, 10:11 AM
-
#114
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Not really. Estimates of long covid are typically in the range of 10-20% of infections.You're the one claiming that 17% of those who got the Rona, are suffering long term complications. Since the majority of the planet got it, despite what the WHO says, that would mean that close to a billion people are still ****ed up?
It seems like you're suggesting that equates to billions of people. I'm asking how you get to that estimate.
08-04-2023, 10:39 AM
-
#115
08-04-2023, 10:59 AM
-
#116
08-04-2023, 11:33 AM
-
#117
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
-
- Dave22reborn
- Cold Hearted SOB
- Join Date: Jan 2005
- Location: Ill.
- Posts: 120,479
- Rep Power: 316531
-
-
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
10-20%? So which is it?Not really. Estimates of long covid are typically in the range of 10-20% of infections.
It seems like you're suggesting that equates to billions of people. I'm asking how you get to that estimate.
It seems like you're suggesting that equates to billions of people. I'm asking how you get to that estimate.
Let's say that a billion people got the Rona, even though the number is higher, you're claiming that 100 million people are suffering from "Long Covid?"
08-04-2023, 11:39 AM
-
#118
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The estimates vary between 10-20%.10-20%? So which is it?
Let's say that a billion people got the Rona, even though the number is higher, you're claiming that 100 million people are suffering from "Long Covid?"
Let's say that a billion people got the Rona, even though the number is higher, you're claiming that 100 million people are suffering from "Long Covid?"
I'm not claiming anything, that's what the data suggest.
08-04-2023, 12:01 PM
-
#119
Bookmarks
-
- Digg
-
- del.icio.us
-

- StumbleUpon
-
-
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts